Hacking Discussion Banned for OFW just Incorrect fuses

[Neoninfinity]

Been using stock firmware, banned.
Only went on cfw for choidujour updates.

Gonna call them up tomorrow

 

[Draxzelex]

Submit a ban report here and let us see if it was only for a mismatch between fuses: https://gbatemp.net/threads/nintendo-switch-banning-hub-warning.508710/

 

[Neoninfinity]

Submit a ban report here and let us see if it was only for a mismatch between fuses: https://gbatemp.net/threads/nintendo-switch-banning-hub-warning.508710/

All done

 

[Lumince]

Running any homebrew puts you at risk of getting banned....

 

[Draxzelex]

So in case other people are not misled by the title, I have a previous ban report where you indicated:

• You used SX OS both offline and online, as low as version 1.0
• Hombrew offline and online as well as while connected to the eShop
• Installed the AutoRCM from SX OS
• Cleared error logs on 5.X

While I believe updating your firmware with ChoiDujourNX contributed to your ban (it is currently impossible to update to firmware 6.0 offline due to a lack of cartridges bundled with that firmware), I think it is a stretch to say you were banned for just incorrect fuses.

 

[Dust2dust]

But why choosing choidujour to update if you were only using stock firmware normally? Good luck with the phone call, not entirely sure it's gonna work.

 

[Chocola]

So in case other people are not misled by the title, I have a previous ban report where you indicated:

• You used SX OS both offline and online, as low as version 1.0
• Hombrew offline and online as well as while connected to the eShop
• Installed the AutoRCM from SX OS
• Cleared error logs on 5.X

While I believe updating your firmware with ChoiDujourNX contributed to your ban (it is currently impossible to update to firmware 6.0 offline due to a lack of cartridges bundled with that firmware), I think it is a stretch to say you were banned for just incorrect fuses.

Can't confirm the incorrect fuse count of this ban, he use SX OS 1.0, go online on CFW and clear the error logs, these things are know as ban flags :/

 

[Neoninfinity]

Can't confirm the incorrect fuse count of this ban, he use SX OS 1.0, go online on CFW and clear the error logs, these things are know as ban flags :/

Fair enough, these things were a while ago and have only booted into a few times.

Either way gonna have fun looking for a pre-owned console only unit also for future reference would using this Nintendo account (which also has Nintendo online) be able to be used on a different console without getting that banned

 

[Pachee]

According to the report:

So in case other people are not misled by the title, I have a previous ban report where you indicated:

• You used SX OS both offline and online, as low as version 1.0
• Hombrew offline and online as well as while connected to the eShop
• Installed the AutoRCM from SX OS
• Cleared error logs on 5.X

While I believe updating your firmware with ChoiDujourNX contributed to your ban (it is currently impossible to update to firmware 6.0 offline due to a lack of cartridges bundled with that firmware), I think it is a stretch to say you were banned for just incorrect fuses.

So if you update online with autorcm on it is "safe"?

 

[Ashura66]

According to the report:

So if you update online with autorcm on it is "safe"?

It will prevent fuses from burning. But as for being safe, well...

 

[Chocola]

Fair enough, these things were a while ago and have only booted into a few times.

Either way gonna have fun looking for a pre-owned console only unit also for future reference would using this Nintendo account (which also has Nintendo online) be able to be used on a different console without getting that banned

The log deletion are the most risk action that you take, their bans are based on telemetry and server logs, if some data are different or get deleted after the previous communications they automatically flag your console to get banned, because it's impossible manipulate this datas without run CFW and homebrew.

Since v6.0 I understand that accouts can't be unlinked from your local user (but you can call to N and say to their that you get lost of stoled your old Switch) it's possible that they manually unlink your account and let you put again on the new console, if they don't refuse the transfer, they don't ban your new Switch I guess (if you don't do any illegal action on her).

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According to the report:

So if you update online with autorcm on it is "safe"?

I can't trust it because the SO have one init flag for RCM mode, but they aren't watching it for now as I know.

It's the unic way to prevent the fuse burn.

 

[Tigran]

Or you could... just deactivate the switch.

https://en-americas-support.nintend...~/how-to-deactivate-a-nintendo-switch-console

 

[mattytrog]

Hmmm...

The fuse check is being bypassed...

Meaning (I presume) that the system is pretending to Horizon that the fuses are burnt.

 

[bundat]

(I presume) that the system is pretending to Horizon that the fuses are burnt.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hekate does something like this behind the scenes. It does a lot of things behind the scenes most people never know about, like clearing boot reason to hide from Horizon that it was booted from RCM.

Although whether it really is actually spoofing the number of burned fuses to be correct or not (if it is possible to do that), maybe someone like @CTCaer would know.

 

[urherenow]

I still don't understand the fascination with burning fuses. People who can currently boot via RCM, will ALWAYS be able to boot via RCM and have the ability of complete and total control down to individual voltage of components (bringing with it the ability to PHYSICALLY brick the console for setting wrong voltages via software). I see no good reason to worry about it. If I get banned, I'll still be able to use homebrew, regardless of firmware, and I'll also be able to pirate whatever, if Nintendo tries preventing me from buying it.

 

[bundat]

I still don't understand the fascination with burning fuses.

I don't understand it myself, but I do it anyway.

If a warmboot exploit comes out, I still don't see myself using it over AutoRCM/jig + dongle. And I don't really play online, and I update using NSPs... and yet I deleted all wifi settings and keep a "latest clean NAND backup" to prevent bans.

I do these things... just cause...?
Craving for "the perfect setup", I guess.
Even if it's not about Switch, I think this GBATemp webcomic best illustrates this:

 

[Quantumcat]

I still don't understand the fascination with burning fuses. People who can currently boot via RCM, will ALWAYS be able to boot via RCM and have the ability of complete and total control down to individual voltage of components (bringing with it the ability to PHYSICALLY brick the console for setting wrong voltages via software). I see no good reason to worry about it. If I get banned, I'll still be able to use homebrew, regardless of firmware, and I'll also be able to pirate whatever, if Nintendo tries preventing me from buying it.

The reason is that there may be an entrypoint in the future that doesn't require RCM. If fuses are burnt then you can't boot a lower firmware without RCM, and can't take advantage of it.

 

[Bedel]

The reason is that there may be an entrypoint in the future that doesn't require RCM. If fuses are burnt then you can't boot a lower firmware without RCM, and can't take advantage of it.

But as long as you can use RCM, you could use a lower firmwer (even if the fuses are burnt) and take advange of this supposed entrypoint, lr did I understood wrong?

 

[Quantumcat]

But as long as you can use RCM, you could use a lower firmwer (even if the fuses are burnt) and take advange of this supposed entrypoint, lr did I understood wrong?

No, because you'd have to use RCM to load Horizon in the lower firmware, meaning the new entrypoint is useless to you.

It's kind of like, you have a house key that doesn't work on your house, so you get in and out using a lockpick.

You could either keep that key in your pocket or leave it in the house. If you manage to get the key working, it won't be too much use to you in the house as you'll need to use your lockpick to access it anyway. The key is only useful when kept outside the house.

 

[Bedel]

No, because you'd have to use RCM to load Horizon in the lower firmware, meaning the new entrypoint is useless to you.

It's kind of like, you have a house key that doesn't work on your house, so you get in and out using a lockpick.

You could either keep that key in your pocket or leave it in the house. If you manage to get the key working, it won't be too much use to you in the house as you'll need to use your lockpick to access it anyway. The key is only useful when kept outside the house.

Yeah I know what you mean. I was thinking in a similiar exploit to A9LH. Meaning you need to stall something in a lower firmware and the you are able to update. In this case, it wouldn't matter.