Hacking Question What's the best Dongle to get?

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I'm leaning towards the NS-Atmosphere dongle. I know there are plenty more like R4 and the SX OS.

Which one should i go for?
 

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I'm leaning towards the NS-Atmosphere dongle. I know there are plenty more like R4 and the SX OS.

Which one should i go for?
NS-Atmosphere is cheaper and has a battery and can flash payloads.

SX Gear/Pro is more expensive and doesn't have a battery (meaning it can only be used 4-5 times without charge) and it cannot flash payloads due to the locked boot file. However it does have better build quality.

Basically if you don't plan on using SX OS don't get SX Pro. SX Gear isn't a very good option either (unless you care very much about portability).

I'd recommend NS-Atmosphere as it's cheaper and gives you a wide range of options instead of just being locked to one payload.

NOTE: Didn't mention R4 cause I know nothing about it.
 
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Made by one of us for us. Not finished yet but his just waiting on parts now I think (and some CFW to enable cart charging to stay on for that feature he wants and still there but disabled and easily user reenabled by soldering 2 clear points)
 
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@Essasetic ..wrong... (i dont defend sxos but you can inject external payloads with it...means you can use ReiNX and so on with it..) just put payloads on sd root and go to option external payloads and choose the payload..... and OP..... if you dont want sxos get that NS Atmosphere dongle.
 
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yes

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only 5 seconds and its fully charged

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that Dragon injector..... i get that its a bit of a mess to carry sx pro and that tiny jig....dragon injector is all in a switch card
 

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Does it not charge itself from the Switch's USB-C port?
Yeah I believe it does.

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@Essasetic ..wrong... (i dont defend sxos but you can inject external payloads with it...means you can use ReiNX and so on with it..) just put payloads on sd root and go to option external payloads and choose the payload..... and OP..... if you dont want sxos get that NS Atmosphere dongle.
That's not what I meant. What I meant that you can't flash payloads with SX Pro or Gear. Meaning everytime you want to boot into a different CFW you'd need to go into the bootloader and select it from there. With NS-Atmosphere you can flash it so it boots directly to that CFW without any bootloader crap.
 

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Yeah I believe it does.
That's not what I meant. What I meant that you can't flash payloads with SX Pro or Gear. Meaning everytime you want to boot into a different CFW you'd need to go into the bootloader and select it from there. With NS-Atmosphere you can flash it so it boots directly to that CFW without any bootloader crap.

Well you can either use the SX-gear payload or convert the payloads to the SX format.

And TBH, the one thing which came late to the game was the hekate functionality to load other payloads. I think a bootloader for a payload is a great idea, as we don't have to reflash the dongle and just can boot with the same payload over and over :)
 
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Well you can either use the SX-gear payload or convert the payloads to the SX format.

And TBH, the one thing which came late to the game was the hekate functionality to load other payloads. I think a bootloader for a payload is a great idea, as we don't have to reflash the dongle and just can boot with the same payload over and over :)
Is there even any way to convert it so it works with SX Pro or Gear? Bootloaders (personally) I think are annoying because (unless you want to back up NAND or enable other features) it gets in the way of booting into CFW.
 

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Is there even any way to convert it so it works with SX Pro or Gear? Bootloaders (personally) I think are annoying because (unless you want to back up NAND or enable other features) it gets in the way of booting into CFW.

Well the dongle always has a fixed payload, which boots a boot.dat. The boot.dat from SX Gear (on the website) will boot another payload. It is all transparent.

If you want to convert a payload to a boot.dat I'll do some shameless self-promotion here.. https://gbatemp.net/threads/convert-any-payload-to-tx-boot-dat.518932/
 

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Well the dongle always has a fixed payload, which boots a boot.dat. The boot.dat from SX Gear (on the website) will boot another payload. It is all transparent.

If you want to convert a payload to a boot.dat I'll do some shameless self-promotion here.. https://gbatemp.net/threads/convert-any-payload-to-tx-boot-dat.518932/
Impressive job you've done there. But I still don't think SX Pro/Gear is worth it as (normally) you order it, get put in a 1 month waiting list and it takes 2-3 weeks to ship. And it costs twice as much as the alternatives. I got my NS-Atmosphere for £21 (got it on eBay instead of AliExpress) but it comes in 2-3 days and no waiting lists.

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Adding to that I had a really bad experience with my SX Pro where the dongle stopped working after I got the licence for SX OS off of it.
 

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NS Atmosphere or wait on the Dragon Injector.

Stay away from the light blue/turquoise boxy-looking one. Too many trying to figure out how to change the payload. Added a photo.

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Impressive job you've done there. But I still don't think SX Pro/Gear is worth it as (normally) you order it, get put in a 1 month waiting list and it takes 2-3 weeks to ship. And it costs twice as much as the alternatives. I got my NS-Atmosphere for £21 (got it on eBay instead of AliExpress) but it comes in 2-3 days and no waiting lists.
Adding to that I had a really bad experience with my SX Pro where the dongle stopped working after I got the licence for SX OS off of it.

First of all: thanks for the compliment. I thought it might help. I did not know they still had this kind of a queue. I assumed by now everything would be fine and dandy. I personally have good experiences with the SX Pro and it beeing much smaller than the NS-Atmosphere (which I also own) it is my favorite. I can easily carry it in my switch case together with my USB-C adapter (for charging) and self-made jig. The NS-Atmosphere is just to thick to fit into the case...
 

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First of all: thanks for the compliment. I thought it might help. I did not know they still had this kind of a queue. I assumed by now everything would be fine and dandy. I personally have good experiences with the SX Pro and it beeing much smaller than the NS-Atmosphere (which I also own) it is my favorite. I can easily carry it in my switch case together with my USB-C adapter (for charging) and self-made jig. The NS-Atmosphere is just to thick to fit into the case...
Firstly: no problem! :) I do think SX Pro/Gear is a tad too small to the point where it is very easy to lose. Also NS-Atmosphere dongle has a place to store the jig in (which can also be very easy to lose). I do like convince and portability but I do think SX Pro and Gear are too easy to lose. NS-Atmosphere is really big and thick but also much harder to lose.
 

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I bought the original clear injector from Aliexpress for $15 an it works great! Only problem is I had to wait 4 weeks for it to arrive and I forgot I had even ordered it by then. Best thing to do is check for local vendors on the web first if you don't mind waiting a month to save a few dollars.
 
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I bought the original clear injector from Aliexpress for $15 an it works great! Only problem is I had to wait 4 weeks for it to arrive and I forgot I had even ordered it by then. Best thing to do is check for local vendors on the web first if you don't mind waiting a month to save a few dollars.
If you don't mind paying more. It's best to order this stuff off eBay (if you can). As it usually ships from your local country and only takes about a few days.
 
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I agree with the ebay purchase. They back up their buyers like 99% of the time.

This the injector I use but mines is solid black

Portable-Dongle-SX-OS-Available-for-SWITCH-RCM-NS-Shorter-Injector-JIG-Kits-Brand-New-with.jpg_200x200.jpg


Was looking for an NS Atmosphere to post elsewhere and that solid black 1 showed up. First time seeing it. I've seen that translucent black, though.

s-l400.jpg


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-N...h-Payloads-RCM-JIG-Injector-S-J2/113278331980

******Just noticed it looks like they solved that reset button issue or the lack of 1 on the clear black.
 
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