We got a glimpse of some new information about Nintendo's Switch Online Service yesterday during the Direct, but most of what was shown there was already known. To help shed a little more light on just what a subscription entails, Nintendo put a FAQ up on their site. The details are as follows:

• As already stated before the Direct, all Switch users (used to be only launch users) can get a 7 day free trial. This gives you access to online, voice chat, cloud saves, and the NES games.
• Those two wireless NES controllers are only purchasable if you have a current paid Nintendo Switch Online sub.
• The full list of 20 playable NES games for subscribers was revealed: Soccer, Tennis, Donkey Kong, Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 1 and 3, Balloon Fight, Ice Climber, Dr. Mario, The Legend of Zelda, Double Dragon, River City Ransom, Ghost's N Goblins, Tecmo Bowl, Gradius, Pro Wrestling, Excitebike, Yoshi, Ice Hockey, and Baseball.
• Each month, a new set of games will be added to the group.
• October will add NES Open Golf, Solomon's Key, and Super Dodge Ball
• November additions are Mighty Bomb Jack, Twinbee, and Metroid.
• December brings Wario's Woods, Adventures of Lolo, and Ninja Gaiden.
• Additionally, if you ever lapse in your subscription, you will lose all cloud data. "Save data stored with Save Data Cloud cannot be kept outside of the duration of your Nintendo Switch Online membership." If you cancel or let it expire, you'll lose all data saved on the cloud.
• If you play the NES games, you need to check in every 7 days by going online to verify your account.

Source: Nintendo UK
Source: Nintendo of America

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

I agree with all but 1... Nintendo aren't the only ones using P2P for multiplayer. Xbox does this as well. They're only recently moving toward dedicated servers. Unsure about Playstation.

p2p isn't much of a problem in most games, but whatever algorithms Nintendo uses to match up players is absolute garbage.

 

[godreborn]

I think the phoning home every 7 days may be the worst of the lot. we've not all pirates, Nintendo, yet we're all treated as such. if you didn't trust us with your hardware, you shouldn't have released the switch.

 

[Treeko]

I agree with all but 1... Nintendo aren't the only ones using P2P for multiplayer. Xbox does this as well. They're only recently moving toward dedicated servers. Unsure about Playstation.

Halo uses dedicated servers on xbox I am pretty sure about that, on playstation there's GT sport using dedicated servers, both sony and Microsoft have modernised their online infrastructure, and pretty much all major triple AAA shooters and sports games are using dedicated servers on both consoles.

 

[Deleted member 445482]

Nes controllers only purchaseable with an active subscription... Black Market on eBay, here I come! My console is banned anyway, couldn't give any shits about this if I wanted but damn, they know how to make this as complicated as possible.

I just cant grasp that. You cant buy a controller without buying the online. I just cant understand.

 

[XDel]

So no NES controllers in the store then?

 

[godreborn]

maybe the nes controllers stop functioning if you don't renew your subscription.

 

[Captain_N]

The only reason i would buy the Nintendo switch online subscription is because of monster hunter Generations ultimate. It might not even use Nintendo's servers. I think capcom runs the monster hunter servers. The dlc is handled by capcom servers. The nes games dont interest me. I have many nes consoles and all the carts i could ever play. I have had all the roms and emulators years ago. I dont need nintendo's online nes service. The nes controllers are cool but not for $60. Most id pay is $30

The reason these old games get re-released is because they are popular and noobs keep buying them. All they had to do was keep their old nes consoles (for the older generation that is ) for the new gen, just use emulators. or buy a nes and a flash cart. You can just use a wii for emulation. Or gee i dont know a pc. any old pc will do. Only noobs dont know what roms and emulation is. Since the noobs dont go above and beyond what a company tells them is available they deserve to get ripped off by nintendo's greed.

To all the hard core hackers and homebrew creators out there: This is the time for you to get back at nintendo. Create your own switch server software. Then release that shit. Once its released Nintendo cant stop it. Host that shit deep on the dark web.

 

[mituzora]

maybe the nes controllers stop functioning if you don't renew your subscription.

I mean, kinda they do. From what I'm gathering on this forum, is that the NES controllers will support the NES titles only

 

[godreborn]

I mean, kinda they do. From what I'm gathering on this forum, is that the NES controllers will support the NES titles only

are these the $60 joycons? do they work with other games?

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

I just cant grasp that. You cant buy a controller without buying the online. I just cant understand.

What annoys me is that it's legitimately their solution for Virtual Console.

 

[mituzora]

are these the $60 joycons? do they work with other games?

They are 60 bucks. As if they work on other games than just the NES library, I have yet to confirm or deny this, but other members have posted that they only work with the NES titles

 

[Closet Nerd]

I just cant grasp that. You cant buy a controller without buying the online. I just cant understand.

DRM Gamepads...

 

[kumikochan]

I agree with all but 1... Nintendo aren't the only ones using P2P for multiplayer. Xbox does this as well. They're only recently moving toward dedicated servers. Unsure about Playstation.

To my knowing it was always xbox using dedicated servers seeing they showed their massive server building when the 360 launched as an advertisement and it being playstation that always used p2p and only this generation moving towards dedicated servers. Also the reason why xbox live always had the upper hand compared to Sony because they used dedicated servers. Even Halo on the xbox classic had dedicated servers

 

[kuwanger]

They are offering starting off NES games instead of having to buy them. So already you get all those NES games for the price yearly of what they were charging almost for 4 of those games to own. Don't let playing roms via emulators cloud your judgement on what is "something of note"

Literally every game on their list that I cared to own, I already own. Real cartridge. Real NES. Owned for 18+ years. And I repeat "owned", not some sort of yearly rental.

Xbox live used to offer playing with cheaters they couldn't catch for 60 a year and it was one of the most popular things ever.

Which goes to show being popular doesn't translate to being good. This Switch online thing may be very popular.

Also don't have to worry about Windows or Apple or anyone else selling everything you say or do on the thing to every company around so you can see 50000 adverts on your Facebook or other pages about whatever you were talking with your wife that day or typing in a game.

MS doesn't share its data with Facebook, and I've heard no evidence that Apple (which you wouldn't be getting on a cheap PC) even collects data. Meanwhile, what makes you think Nintendo won't be pushing ads on the Switch eventually? Meanwhile, as paranoid as I am, I don't believe Microsoft is tracking stuff I'm typing in a third party game launched through Steam. I can/do block as much telemetry data as I can on Windows (which is a non-starter on Switch), and I don't use Windows for much more than gaming. I also don't use Facebook because, golly, it's nothing more than one massive privacy invading platform. If I did use Facebook, I wouldn't care at all about the ads or MS/Apple/whoever tracking me.

There is advantages to it all. Especially since its portable and 1/3rd the costs of all others. You think they are going to profit from 20 a year from people? I highly doubt they will make any profits from their online service.

Sure it's portable, and that's definitely an advantage over a desktop. It's not 1/3rd the cost, though. And as far as making a profit? Yea, I imagine they'll make nearly $20/year more than they would otherwise. The additional costs this specific service costs (they've already got online servers for a game shop and sales) is incredibly negligible.

And If you think a 300 dollar refurbished machine is playing a lot of the new AAA games. Get out of here. Every new game has been requiring better specs and more and more out of ya.

Compare an i5-3570, a GTX 1050, and 8GB of RAM to minimal and recommended specs on Steam for a couple new AAA games and get back to me. I'm seriously curious if you can find many games that run terribly or not at all on my system.

For a portable that plays well and has online 20 dollars a year is chump change. Its literally nothing at all.

You what's even better? $0/year. And a 2DS. That's actually 1/3 the price (of a Switch).

 

[KingVamp]

I'm pretty sure most games are still peer to peer. Not that I care about dedicated servers. I would pick free over dedicated servers every time.

 

[Deleted member 331788]

Also, was the NES classic a huge flop? Pretty sure it sold like hotcakes. Why then does nintendo shove these old nes games in our face like a Times Square hustler? We get it, you made some classics 30 years ago. Jeeze.

It only sold like hot cakes because of the limited supply at the time ...now you can't give them away, it's the same for the SNES Classic!

Guys, No one’s forcing you to buy the controller
If you think about it, what reason should there be to get them with a subscription? Seems like a nice way to prevents scalpers stockpiling them.

Well Nintendo are?? ...Nintendo's marketing strategy has already been tried and tested, over and over!

are these the $60 joycons? do they work with other games?

They better have HD rumble for that price!

 

[kumikochan]

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I'm pretty sure most games are still peer to peer. Not that I care about dedicated servers. I would pick free over dedicated servers every time.

Cod has dedicated servers, overwatch has dedicated servers, battlefield has dedicated servers, halo has dedicated servers, destiny has dedicated servers, the division has dedicated servers, every mmo mmorpg has dedicated servers. Basically saying almost every multiplayer game these days has dedicated servers

 

[osaka35]

The cloudsaves merely sync with the ones on your device, correct? The ones on your device aren't delete are they? Then the cloud service is less "your saves are now online" and more "your saves are backed up online in case your device dies", right? Doesn't really change the situation, but pretty sure you'd still have your local copy.

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Cod has dedicated servers, overwatch has dedicated servers, battlefield has dedicated servers, halo has dedicated servers, destiny has dedicated servers, the division has dedicated servers, every mmo mmorpg has dedicated servers. Basically saying almost all multiplayer games these days have dedicated servers

Yeah, but you still need xbox live for dedicated services not owned by microsoft. Elder scrolls, pretty sure, use bethesda servers. Can't play the game without xbox/ps+ though. Not sure how many games are like this, but it is annoying when they act as gate keepers. I remember when netflix was for gold only. They finally allowed you to use netflix without xbox gold, but I've been wary ever since.

 

[Ericthegreat]

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We got a glimpse of some new information about Nintendo's Switch Online Service yesterday during the Direct, but most of what was shown there was already known. To help shed a little more light on just what a subscription entails, Nintendo put a FAQ up on their site. The details are as follows:

• As already stated before the Direct, all Switch users (used to be only launch users) can get a 7 day free trial. This gives you access to online, voice chat, cloud saves, and the NES games.
• Those two wireless NES controllers are only purchasable if you have a current paid Nintendo Switch Online sub.
• The full list of 20 playable NES games for subscribers was revealed: Soccer, Tennis, Donkey Kong, Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 1 and 3, Balloon Fight, Ice Climber, Dr. Mario, The Legend of Zelda, Double Dragon, River City Ransom, Ghost's N Goblins, Tecmo Bowl, Gradius, Pro Wrestling, Excitebike, Yoshi, Ice Hockey, and Baseball.
• Each month, a new set of games will be added to the group.
• October will add NES Open Golf, Solomon's Key, and Super Dodge Ball
• November additions are Mighty Bomb Jack, Twinbee, and Metroid.
• December brings Wario's Woods, Adventures of Lolo, and Ninja Gaiden.
• Additionally, if you ever lapse in your subscription, you will lose all cloud data. "Save data stored with Save Data Cloud cannot be kept outside of the duration of your Nintendo Switch Online membership." If you cancel or let it expire, you'll lose all data saved on the cloud.
• If you play the NES games, you need to check in every 7 days by going online to verify your account.

Source: Nintendo UK
Source: Nintendo of America

Mother fuckers, not even a few months? So if you card exp date changes your fucked....

 

[kumikochan]

The cloudsaves merely sync with the ones on your device, correct? The ones on your device aren't delete are they? Then the cloud service is less "your saves are now online" and more "your saves are backed up online in case your device dies", right? Doesn't really change the situation, but pretty sure you'd still have your local copy.



Yeah, but you still need xbox live for dedicated services not owned by microsoft. Elder scrolls, pretty sure, use bethesda servers. Can't play the game without xbox/ps+ though. Not sure how many games are like this, but it is annoying when they act as gate keepers. I remember when netflix was for gold only. They finally allowed you to use netflix without xbox gold, but I've been wary ever since.

True that but ir's the same now with Nintendo but they only use p2p while Sony and Microsoft basically say "" subscribe to us and we promise all our first party titles will have dedicated servers " So that's the big difference. Thing is you also get newer games while nintendo only offers games that are over 30 years old. And be honest, nobody pays 60 a year but more like 35 40 a year through 3th party websites. And you also get real voice chat, party invites, message system and voice messages plus more apps to use and a real friend invite system instead of using friend codes like we went back in time 20 years