Where do you fall on the political spectrum?

[kevin corms]

Well neither side actually uses much common sense, so Im just sad.

 

[Eastonator12]

Let's not act like Jones is a helpless victim here. Jones has outright called for violence on numerous occasions, has denied shootings numerous times with no regard of the emotional state of the families who lost their loved ones, and most importantly, releases shittons of intentionally falsified information to rile people up and further divide the country further.

While I agree that people shouldn't be killed for saying stupid shit, I do also agree that Alex Jones (and infowars as a whole, especially disingenuous nutjobs like Paul Joseph Watson) needs to be deplatformed immediately, along with any other platform that partakes in his level of bullshit.

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Why do people assume that someone would believe USA Today solely because it's a "left-wing" establishment? Does this line of reasoning come from the fact most people don't take shitholes like Breitbart, Fox News, and Infowars as credible sources of information?

well, they don't believe fox news because its "propaganda", and CNN doesn't cover it. USA TODAY is the only thing I could find. And I mention its left-wing because so is CNN.

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what has trump done that he promised to do

lower taxes, create more jobs, lower unemployment(same thing kinda)...immigration reform, healthcare reform. he's done all of these things.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

you do realize that the approval rate from black communities is rising, yesterday it hit 37% i believe, and that was from a USA TODAY article. so if a left-wing news company is pushing that article out, it must be sorta true for your standards. I would've found something from fox news to prove you wrong, but then realized you don't think fox news is real anyway...

Listen, i'm a black american. My ancestors were here from the 1800s, and were slaves. Not once have I ever thought trump was hateful towards black people, or anyone of ANY race for that matter. Sure, he does have the attitude and insult-making as a teenager, but thats WHY HE WON. He won because most americans(including me) were tired of the same old "i'll do this", "i'll do that" and then they never actually do it. Trump has done most everything he promised to do. I didn't vote for him in the 2016 election because I was told by every news company under the sun he was a racist, he was hitler, he hated me because I was black. But black unemployment rates are at a all time low because of him. For that, I thank him. He may not be a good person with women, he's a billionaire, they're all like that. I don't like WHO HE IS, I like what he's doing for the country.

Could you link that article? Not saying I don't believe you, but I'd like to see it in print. Plus... 37% still isn't exactly a number to be proud of, especially for the guy that won by getting the second highest number of votes

Also, something you need to understand is that unemployment has been on a decline for years, so every year for the last few has been "an all time low." The issue with Trump's statistic is that the GROWTH RATE is far lower than previous years, which means that while unemployment is going down and jobs are being created, it's at a far lower point than it has been in 6 years, which will not be sustainable until something different is done about it

 

[Eastonator12]

Could you link that article? Not saying I don't believe you, but I'd like to see it in print. Plus... 37% still isn't exactly a number to be proud of, especially for the guy that won by getting the second highest number of votes

Also, something you need to understand is that unemployment has been on a decline for years, so every year for the last few has been "an all time low." The issue with Trump's statistic is that the GROWTH RATE is far lower than previous years, which means that while unemployment is going down and jobs are being created, it's at a far lower point than it has been in 6 years, which will not be sustainable until something different is done about it

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-african-americans-rasmussen-poll/1013212002/

I mean, 37% approval from the black community is good, it means they're waking up. Especially for a republican guy, thats a huge amount of support

 

[TotalInsanity4]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-african-americans-rasmussen-poll/1013212002/

I mean, 37% approval from the black community is good, it means they're waking up. Especially for a republican guy, thats a huge amount of support

Trump frequently cites Rasmussenpolls because they consistently show him with a higher approval rating than other polling organizations. For example, the Real Clear Politics averagecurrently has Trump at 43 percent approval. But today's tracking poll from Rasmussen has the president at 49 percent. And while Trump has never topped 46 percent on the RCP average, Rasmussen has shown Trump with approval ratings as high as 59 percent.

An NAACP poll released on Aug. 7found that Trump's approval rating was at 21 percent. And a survey conducted by the Pew Research Center in Junefound Trump's approval rating among blacks at 14 percent.

And that's why I asked

 

[MaverickWellington]

And that's why I asked

hot damn, I honestly knew this was coming
I honestly don't see why "people support trump" is something to tout around. It doesn't mean people are "waking up," it just means they support Trump.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

lower taxes, create more jobs, lower unemployment(same thing kinda)...immigration reform, healthcare reform. he's done all of these things.

Sure, if that's what you'd like to believe.

 

[dAVID_]

so you think what Alex Jones said about sandy hook is right?

and one of the parents had to move 7 times cause of Alex Jones around USA cause his followers was keep following the poor parents.

I don't think he's right, but that doesn't justify silencing him. Everyone has a right to express their opinion (which does include denying mass murders). Not only that, by silencing him you're only fueling his conspiracies.

 

[AkikoKumagara]

I don't think he's right, but that doesn't justify silencing him. Everyone has a right to express their opinion (which does include denying mass murders). Not only that, by silencing him you're only fueling his conspiracies.

Libel and slander aren't legally protected forms of free speech, though. He's saying the parents of these children are paid actors and conspirators and also claiming several people are pedophiles and rapists. Opinions are one thing, this is something else.

 

[dAVID_]

Libel and slander aren't legally protected forms of free speech, though. He's saying the parents of these children are paid actors and conspirators and also claiming several people are pedophiles and rapists. Opinions are one thing, this is something else.

The question is: Are those claims unprovable?

 

[TotalInsanity4]

The question is: Are those claims unprovable?

... Did you really just ask that question

 

[CallmeBerto]

@dAVID_

for the love of...no just no.

You have to prove ALL the evidence is false.

 

[AkikoKumagara]

Burden of proof falls upon the accuser. He's presented nothing substantial.

 

[guicrith]

The question is: Are those claims unprovable?

Sadly by modern logic all claims are now unprovable because the other side will simply claim its propaganda and call it "fake news".
You could actually claim that earth is giant sleeping roly poly bug and some crazys would pick up the idea and run with it, any attempts to disprove it would be "fake news" and anyone who dident believe them would simply be "brainwashed" or "government agents".

Look at Scientology leaks, flat earth theory and climate denial, people still believe those!

 

[The Catboy]

The mods here won't even allow me to allude to or hint at my position without loading my profile up with warnings or suspending me for a week again, so I really couldn't tell you.

I know what your views are and I know you aren't some innocent and oppressed person.

 

[HamBone41801]

I know what your views are and I know you aren't some innocent and oppressed person.

was he the eugenics dude?

 

[TotalInsanity4]

was he the eugenics dude?

He's the "Jews are everything that is wrong with the world" guy

 

[The Catboy]

was he the eugenics dude?

No, but one could say that's part of his politics

 

[HamBone41801]

He's the "Jews are everything that is wrong with the world" guy

I find it fascinating that people can be driven to such a stupid belief by absolutely anything.

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@guicrith You really shouldn't be liking that, because it turns out YOU were the eugenics guy. You're just as bad as him.

 

[guicrith]

I find it fascinating that people can be driven to such a stupid belief by absolutely anything.

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@guicrith You really shouldn't be liking that, because it turns out YOU were the eugenics guy. You're just as bad as him.

I dont think cripples are the only issue with the world, they are an issue, but far from the worst.

If I got power, the first thing I would do would be to insure the preservation of data and prevent any copyright action in my country, next would be free education(including equal access to the internet for all citizens) then reducing carbon output(eugenics is here).

They are not my scapegoat, they are just a waste of the carbon quota.