Homebrew USB Loaders not showing games on USB

[Cubbz]

For some reason, I cannot get any USB Loader (USBLoader GX, Wiiflow etc) to detect the games on my USB stick. I have tried swapping USB port, Re-installing the apps completely and following the softmod guide. Whenever I try to view Wii games on USBLoader GX, it says "USB Device not initialised. Switching to channel list mode". I'm a bit lost D:

 

[Cubbz]

Also, here is a syscheck just incase...

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: PAL
System Menu 4.3E (v514)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 12.18.2008
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x21
Console ID: 138544767
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: United Kingdom (110)
Boot2 v4
Found 75 titles.
Found 56 IOS on this console. 8 of them are stubs.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS90 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, Beer Ticket
IOS245[37] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS246[38] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS247[53] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS248[55] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 08/12/2018.

 

[FancyNintendoGamer567]

@OP
Try both ports, if neither works. Then make sure your USB is formatted in FAT32 or NTFS and not exFAT.

 

[Cubbz]

@OP
Try both ports, if neither works. Then make sure your USB is formatted in FAT32 or NTFS and not exFAT.

I have just tried the other port (the one in the middle of the wii) and it had a timer on startup of the loader saying "waiting for HDD". I changed the port settings to both but it still didn't work. My Flash Drive is already formatted to FAT32. Would formatting it to NTFS make a difference?

 

[FancyNintendoGamer567]

@Cubbz I can't see what's wrong then. Ask someone like GreyWolf or Cyan and see if they can fix your problem.

 

[Cubbz]

@Cubbz I can't see what's wrong then. Ask someone like GreyWolf or Cyan and see if they can fix your problem.

Ok, I'll try. Thank you for trying to help me!

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@Cyan @GreyWolf , would you be able to help?

 

[Cyan]

USB stick.

first sentence .... Stick.
Please, don't use FLASH DRIVES ! problem solved.

 

[Cubbz]

first sentence .... Stick.
Please, don't use FLASH DRIVES ! problem solved.

Oh I see! Sorry, I didn't know that they wouldn't work... Is there a maximum capacity that the Wii can handle? The only Hard Drive I have to hand is something like 6TB

 

[FancyNintendoGamer567]

@Cubbz That will probably depends on the filesystem your HDD uses. FAT32 has a limit of 2TB but NTFS has a usual limit of 16TB (minus 4KB).

 

[Cyan]

FAT32 has a limit of 16TB (for now).
NTFS has a limit based on cluster size : theoretically, up to 2^64, but it actually depends which OS you use as it's not fully supported.

I know people used 4TB and 5TB, but I don't think I had report of 6TB yet. Anyway, it should work too.
be sure to make a single partition (one big NTFS ?) of you can't find how to make one big FAT32. But you won't be able to play gamecube games with NTFS.
you could make multiple partition, but there's a bug in one of the USBLoaders (usbloadergx) if you use mutliple different partition type with GPT.

I don't know why people like to use drive this big. To me, it's only a matter or time until it get corrupted and you lose 6TB at once.

 

[GreyWolf]

You can always partition the 6TB drive as a smaller one I guess if it doesn't work as the full size.

Sorry, I don't know a way to get flash drives to work. They obviously work with at least IOS59, though, since Dragon Quest X comes with a flash drive. I've been able to get all 10 of the flash drives I have to work under USB Loader GX but not when the game actually boots. It could be a bug in the cIOS code.

 

[Cubbz]

You can always partition the 6TB drive as a smaller one I guess if it doesn't work as the full size.

Sorry, I don't know a way to get flash drives to work. They obviously work with at least IOS59, though, since Dragon Quest X comes with a flash drive. I've been able to get all 10 of the flash drives I have to work under USB Loader GX but not when the game actually boots. It could be a bug in the cIOS code.

I made a NTFS partition of 500GB since I won't be using alot of space. I plugged in the hard drive and it finally detected the games. However, it kicks me back to Homebrew when I try to launch a game.

 

[Cyan]

You can always partition the 6TB drive as a smaller one I guess if it doesn't work as the full size.

Sorry, I don't know a way to get flash drives to work. They obviously work with at least IOS59, though, since Dragon Quest X comes with a flash drive. I've been able to get all 10 of the flash drives I have to work under USB Loader GX but not when the game actually boots. It could be a bug in the cIOS code.

I just thought about something !
I think the cIOS code has a problem, specifically with write mode (the flash drives often freeze when downloading covers, or dumping a game). even if sometime it can't even detect the device but it's probably another issue.
someone made me remember that USBloaderGX always save the GXGlobal.cfg at loader's exit, even if there's no need and no changes made in the setting. Maybe the flash is stuck in the "cfg file writing" step and that's why it's not launching the game ? read mode should work, the issue is the write mode. it could be related! the user asked me if I could prevent writing of the setting if not needed, I'll see if I can do it and if it fixes flash drives (as long as there's no setting changes, and SD card is used to store the settings !) I never thought about asking if users with blackscreen at launch were using SD card or only flash.

I made a NTFS partition of 500GB since I won't be using alot of space. I plugged in the hard drive and it finally detected the games. However, it kicks me back to Homebrew when I try to launch a game.

You are missing a cIOS.
you probably have a stub slot249. I'll add a stub detection to warn the user instead of rebooting.

 

[Cubbz]

You are missing a cIOS.
you probably have a stub slot249. I'll add a stub detection to warn the user instead of rebooting.

According to syscheck:
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0

Is this wrong?

 

[Cyan]

ah, no it's good.
then, rebooting is because the console can't find the game.

either the iso is bad, or not in the right folder (maybe you have the folder, but not the .wbfs file in it?), or the device is not working fine with cIOS (like flash drives, they tend to disconnect with cIOS reloading before game launching)
if it's a big drive, I suppose it has its own power supply, right?

 

[Cubbz]

I've tried with all 6 games, so it might not be the iso. Weirdly, I managed to play Wii sports from the loader last night, but now it does not work. I have not made any changes to the drive either..
The drive just has a folder named "wbfs" on the root, and inside are 6 folders that contain the .wbfs file for each game. Also in the wbfs folder is the disc.info file.
And yeah, the drive has it's own power supply.

 

[Cyan]

you edited the partition since yesterday ? or you already had the 500GB partition working?

Try to force a partition refresh : settings > hdd menu > click on the first option to reload partitions, set it to the proper one.
I hope it's just this, it might remember you have games on a different partition number.

verify your games are not write protected too. I think it's only a FAT32 bug, so maybe NTFS is not affected, but it's always good to eliminate all possibilities.

 

[Sathya]

I've tried with all 6 games, so it might not be the iso. Weirdly, I managed to play Wii sports from the loader last night, but now it does not work. I have not made any changes to the drive either..
The drive just has a folder named "wbfs" on the root, and inside are 6 folders that contain the .wbfs file for each game. Also in the wbfs folder is the disc.info file.
And yeah, the drive has it's own power supply.

if you have cios 249 use CfG usbloader. pretty sure solve your problem. for usb loader gx, try to install ios 236 first. this is my experience, believe it or not its work for me.
just for test, you can try also install wii game to your sd card with wiibackup manager and load it via cfg usb loader or wiiflow. remember, just for test. because sd card is not enaugh for all of your wii games.

 

[Cyan]

236 will do nothing, that slot is unused for years.
"249" is a useless info. what's important is what's inside.

he has d2x v10 r52, base56.
he could try a slot where he has d2x based on IOS57 instead, some games don't work with base56.
but adding cIOS on other unloaded slots has no meaning or purpose. the wii only use and see one slot at a time. slot236 was used by old wad managers, never by usbloaders.

trying another device, yeah it could be an idea to see if the problem is the device or a setting. but at the end, we need to make it work on his hdd. it used to work, the loader detects the games.


what you can check :
which IOS is set in the loader ? 58 or 249 ? (settings>credit, or setting>loader settings>loader's IOS)
set it to 249 or 250.
be sure the "game's IOS" is set to the same slot.

this way, the loader will use that slot from the start and it will prevent a IOS reload at loader's exit, right before launching the game.
Maybe the drive lose its connection at IOS reload step, so let's be sure there's no reload at all. if it indeed has a reload issue and doesn't work with d2x, it will have issues detecting the drive at loader's launch.

 

[Sathya]

236 will do nothing, that slot is unused for years.
"249" is a useless info. what's important is what's inside.

he has d2x v10 r52, base56.
he could try a slot where he has d2x based on IOS57 instead, some games don't work with base56.
but adding cIOS on other unloaded slots has no meaning or purpose. the wii only use and see one slot at a time. slot236 was used by old wad managers, never by usbloaders.

i believe im stupid in here and you are smarter than me. but now i just only want to share my experience, when i try to play wii games from usb loader gx and always bac to homebrew screen. i dont know what to do like im hopeless, but in home brew screen i see the ios 236 and cios 249 installer [because i've download wii mod pack] and i just press the A button when laucnh the cios installer. and then i try to load it via usbloader gx again, and it works for the first time with MP9 games. yes wierd story but thats my true story.