Hacking Suggestion we need a way to unbanned

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People saying its impossible are such idiots. What makes you say its impossible, do you work for nintendo lmao
Even if they did work for Nintendo then the mere fact we are having this conversation means Nintendo slipped up and did not know enough of their security/system to block everything.
 
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I don't think that it's possible to get unbanned. If you want to play a game online or visit the eShop, your console is connecting to Nintendo's servers. So they can decide if they allow you to use their services or not. Therefore, you can't do anything about it. However, there are some workarounds which enable you to use a part of Nintendo's services even if you were banned (e.g. starting game downloads through Nintendo's website). But who knows if Nintendo won't find a way to block these methods sometime in the future.
yea yea this is kinda a workaround the censorship on their website is flawwed as well. you go to the product page then sign in and it bypasses the age restriction that how i got both resident evils
 

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The Xbox 360 could be unbanned by changing the console ID to a good one. You could swap the KEY VAULT (KV) portion of the NAND. That may be possible with switch one day.

Yes you can.
However, you cannot revert it to stock as you must keep your JTAG/RGH hack enabled at all times.
Besides, if you seriously invest in a stealth server and don't cheat online, you wouldn't need to "unban" yourself.
 

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But there is both historical precedent and an apparent path to unbanning systems here. We have no idea of a timeframe for it (though I could give favourable odds of seeing it any time from 10 minutes from now to maybe 6 months) but that is a different matter.
Why share false info?
Who's sharing false info? Me? well, unless you could prove it (which would require successfully unbanning one), there is no basis to suggest I'm sharing false info.
 

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Who's sharing false info? Me? well, unless you could prove it (which would require successfully unbanning one), there is no basis to suggest I'm sharing false info.

3DS ban used to be permanent.
Until the day one could dump a Local friend seed and some other files to unban banned 3DSses.
 

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Who's sharing false info? Me? well, unless you could prove it (which would require successfully unbanning one), there is no basis to suggest I'm sharing false info.
The one making the claim of impossible gets to be the one to prove it. It might also do to answer how this system differs in a truly significant way from other systems wherein it is possible, and/or also where the assessments of the security we are operating from are either false or we are all interpreting their contents incorrectly. Or if you prefer then absence of proof is not proof of absence.

The switch appears to be a factory set key, user controlled software side talking to a remote verification server, a fairly run of the mill concept. If the user controls the software (and we demonstrably have total control from boot on up), and the little black box/oracle the security system employed to trip up even that also appears to be both broken (see broken Trustzone) and simple in its operation (see the post -- it is said to only be doing simple key manipulation rather than some kind of system/section memory manipulation and secure computing service throughout runtime, and similarly appears to just be simple key manipulation rather than full memory access and complete stack thing you could send out data to the internet with), and even better the system has code which can run at any time (the layerfs thing being a demonstration of that) we appear to have all the pieces in place to give a banned switch the means to present a new valid key to Nintendo and thus be said to be unbanned. An unbanned Switch would be a nice thing to show here but from where I sit calling "impossible" is quite a silly thing to do.
Again I have no timeframe for when it might happen (I am expecting sooner rather than later by virtue of what we already know) but that is a different matter.
 

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The one making the claim of impossible gets to be the one to prove it. It might also do to answer how this system differs in a truly significant way from other systems wherein it is possible, and/or also where the assessments of the security we are operating from are either false or we are all interpreting their contents incorrectly. Or if you prefer then absence of proof is not proof of absence.

The switch appears to be a factory set key, user controlled software side talking to a remote verification server, a fairly run of the mill concept. If the user controls the software (and we demonstrably have total control from boot on up), and the little black box/oracle the security system employed to trip up even that also appears to be both broken (see broken Trustzone) and simple in its operation (see the post -- it is said to only be doing simple key manipulation rather than some kind of system/section memory manipulation and secure computing service throughout runtime, and similarly appears to just be simple key manipulation rather than full memory access and complete stack thing you could send out data to the internet with), and even better the system has code which can run at any time (the layerfs thing being a demonstration of that) we appear to have all the pieces in place to give a banned switch the means to present a new valid key to Nintendo and thus be said to be unbanned. An unbanned Switch would be a nice thing to show here but from where I sit calling "impossible" is quite a silly thing to do.
Again I have no timeframe for when it might happen (I am expecting sooner rather than later by virtue of what we already know) but that is a different matter.
Really? Ok. Where did I use the word impossible? What i stated was in fact the condition of things CURRENTLY
 
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OK, change to that if you want (it is the logical position).

The OP and thread in general appears to then seeking and doing research into how unbanning might come to pass and thus your earlier post is redundant and possibly misleading.

All cleared up now though so back to contemplating methods, what checks are employed and other such things.
 

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@FAST6191 I know where you're coming from with this and i don't think anyone would question your credentials and the knowledge you possess, but i'd never think you'd reply to a thread like this.
A question carelessly put and it couldn't be more clueless or vague.
Formulating it as if it couldn't be simpler and showing no actual own level of skill adequate to solve this issue.
Basically just stating "Yeah, this is something we need". There is a sort of entitlement to it, as if no one had realized before that this would be something useful to have.
 

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Oh hey I got banned for doing stupid shit, I'm tooootaaaallyyy entitled to an unban!

Nintendo unban me or I'll summon lucifer to rain judgement upon you!!!

No, this isn't the 3DS scene where you can just inject stuff to get unbanned. Did you think Nintendo doesn't learn from their mistakes?
 
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It is more that I am bored of nonsense posts and have seen people with actual new and interesting ideas driven off before by it*. I don't want to point at the 3ds section too hard, again because I truly believe the 3ds had such a weak game library that such a thing could not pull focus like it could on the GBA and DS (and at least the early wii), but I will never the less do so.

*I don't actually especially care about any of the named hackers and whatever drama or imagined drama that went there. I am thinking more about things like that guy that made a decent start towards a 3ds video capture/output device being driven off by people doubting despite clear evidence the OP of that thread was onto something (it had all happened during the night for me). On the Switch then the tiny soldering guy as he became known I still think got a rough shake.

If however I can help raise the level of discourse at bit that might not happen, or happen as hard, and I am OK with that. If that means for want of a better term "hijacking" a thread like this (I don't disagree that the OP could have been better, however that is almost irrelevant for my purposes) and twisting it towards something... if not productive then informative then so it goes.
 
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I got a idea, why don't we buy Nintendo and then we control the servers so then hacked players can never get banned. I thought of this in a dream. In that same dream, we also had a branding of games called "tempy games" and we basically had members here publish their homebrew games as licensed games. Both of these moves was a huge success. :ninja:
 

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did you think the error code 2124-4007 is a permanant ban ?
I think I remember that at the time of the 3DS, Nintendo had banished people for a month
It's not permanent your right if you call them and ask them they say it's because possibly of fraudulent activities I told them my kids are the only ones to touch the switch and they're ten I'm waiting on the supervisors response .
 

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There's a way to get unbanned, it's called buying a new switch.

You seem to be new to the hacking scene, there are ways that even Nintendo does not know of and control, hackers, people do it all the time on PC, Mac, Android and so on, it's called wait for it, creating your own server and yes hackers will do it on Switch eventually just like they do on Xbox 360 and xbox, PC, PS2, so on.

Nintendo games are online on Nintendo servers only for right now but same has happened with all games and systems but hackers find ways to bring em back online, so no he doesn't need to buy a new switch, he need only wait. Eshop maybe limited to Nintendo servers but I'm sure hackers will find a way to make there own that does not depend on Nintendos draconian ways.
 
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