There are only two genders. Change my mind.

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Sex and Gender are the same exact thing, the left just wants to make excuses to justify their actions. Before all this began, when I filled out a job app it use to say "Gender - Male or Female" OR "Sex - Male or Female".

Just because someone changes the definition of a word, doesn't make it correct. You see the left do this kind of thing a lot these days.

Just because you "Feel" like the opposite sex, doesn't mean you are the opposite sex. Just because a Woman is masculine doesn't mean she is a man. Just because a man is feminine doesn't make him a woman or a t******. It makes him a man that is feminine. This is not hard, its very simple.

Science doesn't care about your feelings or your politics, science is here so we humans can solve things to get all the facts. And scientists already proved time and time again there is ONLY "Male" and "Female", thats it. Yeah, there are anomalies in human biology, but its not the norm, thats why they are called "anomalies".

Don't take my word for it, go search any well known scientist on the subject, see what they say. But the left also likes to not listen to the actual science and instead listen to what they "feel".
B-but Bill Nye said sex is like a spectrum, and he's a scientist@!

 

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I think there is only two. You have a dong - you are man, you haven't - you are woman. Thats simple.
You can think about yourself as a male or female, but before you get yourself a penis or get rid of it, it doesn't count. Modern medicine can help.
As for "xe", "they", "hir", "Apache helicopter" - normal people just shouldn't pay attention and not to indulge this madness.
 

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B-but Bill Nye said sex is like a spectrum, and he's a scientist@!


I hope that's a joke. lol.

But Bill Nye is not a scientist, especially in the field of Human Biology.

Bill Nye actually has a bachelors degree in mechanical engineering, not even a masters or PHD. lol. So he's one of the last people that should be talking about human biology and claiming it's "Science". Bill Nye is so far from a science guy. He's a washed up TV personality.
 
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I agree with OP. Being gay is ok, but gender is cleary something defined by science and can't be disconsidered just because some people fantasize they are actual women/men when they're the opposite.
Hermafrodites and trans people are a complicated thing, but it's a clinical/genetic condition, that should be treated OR not if the person wants.
 
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This thread was funny :D
Disgusting i would say, from both sides.

How the fuck is that hard to agree on a middle solution that benefits both sides, or just respect each others despite whatever the frick they believe on? Pretty sad to see a freaking gaming forum getting so disgusting to the point no one respect anyone anymore, making it a complete mess of a forum.

Again, disgusting. Politics and this kind of stuff has shown to have no place here, people cant talk to each other without starting a shitshow.

Sometimes i really believe i might be the only one or a very especial case that tolerates ever view point and that is in a middle ground...
 

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Disgusting i would say, from both sides.

How the fuck is that hard to agree on a middle solution that benefits both sides, or just respect each others despite whatever the frick they believe on? Pretty sad to see a freaking gaming forum getting so disgusting to the point no one respect anyone anymore, making it a complete mess of a forum.

Again, disgusting. Politics and this kind of stuff has shown to have no place here, people cant talk to each other without starting a shitshow.

Sometimes i really believe i might be the only one or a very especial case that tolerates ever view point and that is in a middle ground...

Once you're done forming your own views you will no longer do that. It's part of growing up.
 

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Sporting events should be separate for trans and hermaphrodites.

On public restrooms, the cheaper option would be to keep it the same, and people should go to the one that matches their genitals.
Making a law for businesses to have a separate room seems like the best option, but it will be costly.
 

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Sporting events should be separate for trans and hermaphrodites.

On public restrooms, the cheaper option would be to keep it the same, and people should go to the one that matches their genitals.
Making a law for businesses to have a separate room seems like the best option, but it will be costly.
If I ran a business, I'd have unisex bathrooms just because of the cost! That way I don't have to pay for two rooms. :P One person only in the room at a time, because fuck bathroom stalls!
 

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Once you're done forming your own views you will no longer do that. It's part of growing up.
I have stablished my own views, im legaly an adult and im far above the 18 years old mark. Being only one sided, or lacking the ability to emphatize and open your mind is something i have stablished and promised to myself to never do. It is extremely disgusting when people argue and attack each others when it is as simple to just tolerate a different point of view...
 

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I have stablished my own views, im legaly an adult and im far above the 18 years old mark. Being only one sided, or lacking the ability to emphatize and open your mind is something i have stablished and promised to myself to never do. It is extremely disgusting when people argue and attack each others when it is as simple to just tolerate a different point of view...

There is a difference between tolerating other peoples beliefs and forming your own. Tolerating doesn't mean you will change your beliefs because someone else has a different point of view. Liberals preach tolerance and acceptance, but only if you act and say what they do. They also hide behind science, but if you oppose their point of view they take that as a threat and attack you. They do the same thing they are accusing you of doing, but it's okay because you must be a "bigot" because you do not agree with them. They aren't happy with having their own views - they must push them on others and if you don't conform you should be abused, lose your job, go to jail, be humiliated, etc ... We all project our views in some extent onto others, but I don't go around trying to make people think the way that I do. This is a debate, I'm not telling other people what they should think; I'm simply stating what I believe and defending it.
 

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There is a difference between tolerating other peoples beliefs and forming your own. Tolerating doesn't mean you will change your beliefs because someone else has a different point of view. Liberals preach tolerance and acceptance, but only if you act and say what they do. They also hide behind science, but if you oppose their point of view they take that as a threat and attack you. They do the same thing they are accusing you of doing, but it's okay because you must be a "bigot" because you do not agree with them. They aren't happy with having their own views - they must push them on others and if you don't conform you should be abused, lose your job, go to jail, be humiliated, etc ... We all project our views in some extent onto others, but I don't go around trying to make people think the way that I do. This is a debate, I'm not telling other people what they should think; I'm simply stating what I believe and defending it.
Never refered to your case, but a few others on this thread. Also, pretty much both sides do that, both hates when their beliefs conflicts with each others and it's indeed a problem because NO ONE can agree on something. The problem will always be with each side, no one is free of being guilty in this matter, that's why i highly called tolerance to BOTH sides, not just calling one to do so.
 
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That is apples to oranges. Gender is debatable, the earth being flat is just ignorance.

It's only debatable if you haven't bothered to look into it. The field has a lot of research, it's worth looking into. There's "debate", for sure, but not about this. few, if any, in the field would suggest only two genders.


Hence why a more adequate term for this should be evaluated.
Again, bother to look into it before you say there aren't adequate terms. Don't confuse people's misuse for not having appropriate terms.


It is called "'practicing' medicine" for a reason.
meaning....?

It is real and it is happening far too much. Our progressive culture is embracing it. Sadly, many 'progressive' parents are actually pushing this upon their children.

Where do we know that the influence is coming from? Is it really that child, or is it the parent enforcing their agenda? We need to distinguish those and penalize the parents that push this on their children. Too many 'progressive' parents are making the choice for their children, not the child making the choice.

[citation needed]. Perception of a problem is not the same thing as actually having a problem. And do you feel that gender transitions can happen without a psychological evaluation? why do you believe this to be the case?
 
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It's only debatable if you haven't bothered to look into it. The field has a lot of research, it's worth looking into. There's "debate", for sure, but not about this. few, if any, in the field would suggest only two genders.



Again, bother to look into it before you say there aren't adequate terms. Don't confuse people's misuse for not having appropriate terms.



meaning....?



[citation needed]. Perception of a problem is not the same thing as actually having a problem. And do you feel that gender transitions can happen without a psychological evaluation? why do you believe this to be the case?
There's also research and studies on the earth being flat. It's annoyingly subjective and when you finally form an opinion you tend to get so deep into that it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. Human nature.
 
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IMO, gender and sex mean the same thing, but recently SJWs have started to claim that gender is the new autism spectrum or something
Gender/Sex is generally based on the body you were born with, but for some people they mentally feel like they belong in the other and they get medical aid to transform their body to the other, in that case they are for most intents and purposes (outside the doctor's office), their preferred gender
So far there have only ever been 2 different sets of unique organs of which gender is based on, male or female. Theres also intersex but thats literally just somewhere in between the other 2 hence the name and there are no unique traits to intersex that male or female do not have.
For there to be a third gender, it would have to have traits that male and female don't.

Contrary to what tumblr believes, your spirit animal, favorite clothing style etc are not factors of gender. If you're a guy who dresses like a girl but don't feel like a girl then you're just a crossdresser, not a third gender
 

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Well, isn't this something. The minority on gbatemp thinks there are more then two genders while the majority thinks there are only two. In a perfect world everyone would get along, but we don't live in a perfect world and in this world the majority vote wins.
 
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Gender ie Sex isn't fluid ... you're either a man or a woman .... a boy or a girl .... It's that fucking simple .
For those who can't seem to understand this simple concept , please allow me to explain in terms that you might understand..
You're either a zero or a one , you're either on or off.... It's really that simple.
 

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Now time for one of the most dangerous things on the internet, an opinion:

I don't think we need to create a spectrum for something that is already hard-coded in our genetics as XX and XY. I don't mind using a specific pronoun for a person if they really want me to use it, but the whole "Gender is a spectrum!" thing is a little ridiculous. I believe what people call gender is largely based around the person's personality, as there have always been feminine guys and masculine guys (tomboys/tomgirls) - so creating a spectrum for every combination of personalities doesn't make sense.
 

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