There are only two genders. Change my mind.

[nWo]

No need to change nothing at all. You got it all right and nice. Nature, and that´s the bottom line.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I refuse to identify as human. I'm a Xenomorph now

And now we come back around to the reminder that while gender is a social construct, sex is the physical aspect, which is what you appear to be attempting to parody

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Maybe far into the future, someone or some people can find away to change sex as well, but then you could probably change a lot of other things too.


Unisex bathrooms were and are a thing before genders got out of hand.

A lot of transgender individuals do hormone replacement therapy, which effectively slowly alters their sex over time. It's obviously not DNA resequencing or anything, but it's kind of a mid-way point for the time being. Either way it's a very effective way to pass as the opposite gender, regardless of what your biological birth sex was

 

[gamesquest1]

There's nothing sexual about someone who presents as either intersex or the opposite gender as they were born, though. It's a purely personal choice that they present daily, rather than just for the bedroom. It's not a kink, nor should it be

so gimp costumes are totally normal to walk around in on a daily basis *noted*

PS I'm not saying its bad to be into that shit.....you do you, just don't try make it into something it isnt

 

[TotalInsanity4]

so gimp costumes are totally normal to walk around in on a daily basis *noted*

Don't exactly like your terminology, but why not?

 

[gamesquest1]

Don't exactly like your terminology, but why not?

I would imagine the pvc would get very sweaty if worn in a business setting tbh

but again, you do you, just don't moan if people find nipple tassels and butt plugs a bit weird outside of the bedroom

 

[Kioku]

I... Don't know what to believe. Today's society is trying to distort hundreds, if not thousands of years of study and research to fit a social standard. The sad part is that it's working. I don't care what you "identify" as. Means jack to me. Just don't try to tell me there are upwards of 80 "genders" that all have oddly sophisticated meanings. Life doesn't have to be so complex, but apparently that's not my choice, as a cis-gendered white male. Whatever the fuck that means.

 

[Xzi]

I don't think this really belongs in this section, but I guess if the mods are fine with it, shitpost away.

 

[osaka35]

I agree with OP
There is only XX and XY.
Even if a guy cut of his dick, implant tits and use hormones it wont turn him on a woman. You cant change DNA

There's also XXY, XY female presenting (testosterone doesn't have the affect it normally does), XX male presenting (large levels of testosterone), and so on and so forth. Biology isn't as neat and clean as you'd hope. You just learn it that way because it's "close enough" for highschool level of knowledge, and that decision really needs to be addressed. Because if you want to be completely accurate, there's a lot more going on. Reality is far more interesting than you, and a lot of folks, give it credit. There's also a difference between sex and gender You're talking just about sex when talking about chromosomes, and you're talking about gender when you discuss how people express their sex.

And transgender is another topic altogether That's when the brain develops as one while the body develops as another (usually). Since we value the person rather than the body, we go with how the person is rather than how they look.

 

[RustInPeace]

Please keep this civil.

Hey, it's RIP. I hope you'll reconsider that there are only 2 genders. You're way too powerful and influential to endorse this, and what that stands for. As you know, what you say really means something to your fans. They are loyal to you and respect your opinion. So many people who love you feel so betrayed right now because they know the harm that the statement you made causes, especially to people in the LGBQT community. Don't let this be part of your legacy. You're the greatest GBATemp member of our generation.

Now I can do this.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I would imagine the pvc would get very sweaty if worn in a business setting tbh

but again, you do you, just don't moan if people find nipple tassels and butt plugs a bit weird outside of the bedroom

Oh, I see, I assumed "gimp" was a derogatory term along the lines of "cross-dressing". That's obviously a big no-no, because again there's a sexual aspect there and no one else is consenting to see that in public

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I... Don't know what to believe. Today's society is trying to distort hundreds, if not thousands of years of study and research to fit a social standard. The sad part is that it's working. I don't care what you "identify" as. Means jack to me. Just don't try to tell me there are upwards of 80 "genders" that all have oddly sophisticated meanings. Life doesn't have to be so complex, but apparently that's not my choice, as a cis-gendered white male. Whatever the fuck that means.

Which studies are you referring to?

 

[yusuo]

I'm sorry I have to completely disagree with @TotalInsanity4 gender isn't a social concept, it's very definition is "the state of being male or female." and it has been for centuries, if not millennia, hipsters won't change that definition even if they try.

This isn't a discussion its strictly binary, you are either one or the other there is no other option.

Now sexual orientation is a different conversation, this has ever expanded recently in what I believe is related to narcissism and an individuals belief that thanks to the Internet, their opinions are paramount and take precedence above all others, that they should be acknowledged no matter how idiotic some of them are as whether through psychosis or actual belief that they are genuine. such as the woman who married a roller coaster, or the man who married his car.

Now before anyone says I'm not saying these feelings aren't genuine, I'm just saying for the minority, just because you say you are doesn't necessarily make it an actuality... Or does it?

 

[Kioku]

Which studies are you referring to?

Just a general statement actually. People who believe the earth is flat, people who believe NASA is a hoax. Standard tin foil conspiracies that 20 years ago would have been laughed at. Now more and more people are taking it seriously and "Idiocracy" is slowing becoming reality.

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I'm sorry I have to completely disagree with @TotalInsanity4 gender isn't a social concept, it's very definition is "the state of being male or female." and it has been for centuries, if not millennia, hipsters won't change that definition even if they try.

This isn't a discussion its strictly binary, you are either one or the other there is no other option.

Now sexual orientation is a different conversation, this has ever expanded recently in what I believe is related to narcissism and an individuals belief that thanks to the Internet, their opinions are paramount and take precedence above all others, that they should be acknowledged no matter how idiotic some of them are as whether through psychosis or actual belief that they are genuine. such as the woman who married a roller coaster, or the man who married his car.

Now before anyone says I'm not saying these feelings aren't genuine, I'm just saying for the minority, just because you say you are doesn't necessarily make it actuality... Or does it?

Reality and actuality are questionable anymore.

 

[SG854]

I think the question should be, "should people create more than 2 genders?" Since gender is social construct based on masculine or feminine traits you express. Should we create a new gender just because you range not completely masculine but 7/10ths of the way? Or 6/10ths of the way? Or a new gender because you express both, or neither, etc. People can barely memorize the periodic elements and people expect to memorize all the genders?

The point of language is to simplify it, not complicate it. This is why we have reductions and contractions in the English language. Do we really need all these genders to explain every little differences just because you are not the complete stereotypical male or female? Can't just saying "i'm a less masculine male" suffice? Show people the list of all the genders and people will say i'm out thats way too much.

Sex itself is biological and based on hormones. Autism is basically extreme maleness, based on how much prenatal hormones you receive. People who are autistic are more male than most men. And theirs also Neuroplasticity which means some biological traits are not rigid, are moldable, this is what the mammalian Neocortex allow's us to override primitive reptilian traits that are biologically automatic. Women are biologically typically much better communicators and better with human bonding than men. But if you give males an incentive like offer them money, males will learn feminine traits and do it as well as women.

 

[gamesquest1]

Oh, I see, I assumed "gimp" was a derogatory term along the lines of "cross-dressing". That's obviously a big no-no, because again there's a sexual aspect there and no one else is consenting to see that in public

who are you to say I cant wear weird sexual fetish outfits in public you bigot

but seriously that's the point either its everything or its not, if its not then you cant take the moral high ground

sure its nice to think everyone can feel comfortable doing what they want, but that's what bedrooms and homes are for, if you want to do weird not normal shit your more than welcome to, just don't try force people to say "wow your choice to marry a peg is a great idea"

 

[yusuo]

Just a general statement actually. People who believe the earth is flat, people who believe NASA is a hoax. Standard tin foil conspiracies that 20 years ago would have been laughed at. Now more and more people are taking it seriously and "Idiocracy" is slowing becoming reality.

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Reality and actuality are questionable anymore.

Reality is questionable and you hit the nail on the head with that and your other comment. Idiocracy has become prevalent due to validation from other like minded individuals 3000 miles away, and so and so on until there enough like minded individuals all shouting in unison that others then pay attention, no matter how absurd the original premise is

 

[DeslotlCL]

Same here, I agree with OP (what's there to NOT agree with?)
Our DNA is made to basically have either chromosomes XX or XY.
Sure there are some instances where someone might be born with the sexual organs of both male and females, like it's the case of Intersex/Hermaphrodite, but taking into account nature and our genetic makeup of the human as it is, there is only female and male.

If you are a transvestite, a transsexual, a Trans-Am, a transylvanian or whatever, or have god-knows whatever sexual orientation (because damn I don't know where people come up with that stuff), it's a matter of psycology and personal preference, it's not a "sex" by nature.

Sexual orientation =/= gender

smh...

 

[gamesquest1]

I think the problem is people seeing its a spectrum and thinking wow we need to give every shade of red its own category, oh and every shade of blue needs its own category, the people arguing "no its just red and blue" aren't saying there isn't different shades, they are saying the alternative is stupid and overly complicated

 

[SG854]

I think the problem is people seeing its a spectrum and thinking wow we need to give every shade of red its own category, oh and every shade of blue needs its own category, the people arguing "no its just red and blue" aren't saying there isn't different shades, they are saying the alternative is stupid and overly complicated

There's Pantone and a names for many different shades of blue, red, etc. But I agree I think all these genders is a bit too much. Its too much too memorize, and its something most people wont bother with since the majority of the population straight. Only a minority are gay, trans, and so on. Not enough to spend time to study and memorize like a test just for a few people that think every shade needs a new gender.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I'm sorry I have to completely disagree with @TotalInsanity4 gender isn't a social concept, it's very definition is "the state of being male or female." and it has been for centuries, if not millennia, hipsters won't change that definition even if they try.

This isn't a discussion its strictly binary, you are either one or the other there is no other option.

Now sexual orientation is a different conversation, this has ever expanded recently in what I believe is related to narcissism and an individuals belief that thanks to the Internet, their opinions are paramount and take precedence above all others, that they should be acknowledged no matter how idiotic some of them are as whether through psychosis or actual belief that they are genuine. such as the woman who married a roller coaster, or the man who married his car.

Now before anyone says I'm not saying these feelings aren't genuine, I'm just saying for the minority, just because you say you are doesn't necessarily make it an actuality... Or does it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction

who are you to say I cant wear weird sexual fetish outfits in public you bigot

but seriously that's the point either its everything or its not, if its not then you cant take the moral high ground

sure its nice to think everyone can feel comfortable doing what they want, but that's what bedrooms and homes are for, if you want to do weird not normal shit your more than welcome to, just don't try force people to say "wow your choice to marry a peg is a great idea"

Again, you seem to think that presenting as a different gender than you are is some sexual fetish-y thing. It's not. It's just a person going about their lives, presenting as either the opposite gender or something between their current and the opposite.

As for the "public BDSM outfit" analogy you give, it's not even comparable. Again, anything sexual (which, as you correctly assume, THAT is) comes down to the consent of everyone participating; by going out in public in what IS objectively a fetish outfit, you're forcing everyone you encounter to participate in your fetish without their consent.

There's Pantone and a names for many different shades of blue, red, etc. But I agree I think all these genders is a bit too much. Its too much too memorize, and its something most people wont bother with since the majority of the population straight. Only a minority are gay, trans, and so on. Not enough to spend time to study and memorize like a test just for a few people that think every shade needs a new gender.

No need to memorize, just be respectful if someone asks you to address them by a different name or pronoun. It's really not difficult once you're used to it.

And "they" is universally safe, if you're not certain one way or another