Homebrew ive got an idea for some homebrew on the 3ds but cant code/port for shit so need help

[Jimmay123]

hey all so im a huge fan of the zelda series in particular i get good memories playing the wind waker and ive gotten to thinking could we make a homebrew port or brew edition of wind waker?

looking at the console specs it seems do'able

gamecube:
CPU IBM PowerPC Gekko @ 486 MHz
Graphics ATI Flipper @ 162 MHz


n3ds:
CPU 804 MHz ARM11 MPCore quad-core + extra weaker single-core (one reserved for OS)
Graphics 204 MHz DMP PICA200

trouble is when it comes to porting code ive got no clue

an ideal solution could be a gc emulator maybe im not sure if im missing something but id love to get this going if its possible and would love some ideas and feedback maybe some people who can help chip in with code and stuff.


if the emulator is out of reach could we just maybe port the gc iso code to a .cia file?

what do you think

 

[8BitWonder]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but this is in no way shape or form doable. There can't even be good PS1 or n64 emulation, so an emulator is out of the question. Source code isn't available to port it directly, and no one is going to do this from scratch because the 3ds simply isn't powerful enough. Best bets would be to grab an nvidea shield if you want wind waker on the go.

Also brace yourself, because people generally bash these kinds of threads. Try not to take it to heart though.

 

[Jimmay123]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but this is in no way shape or form doable. There can't even be good PS1 or n64 emulation, so an emulator is out of the question. Source code isn't available to port it directly, and no one is going to do this from scratch because the 3ds simply isn't powerful enough. Best bets would be to grab an nvidea shield if you want wind waker on the go.

Also brace yourself, because I guarantee some people are going to come in here just to bash your idea. Try not to take it to heart.

ive got a 3.0.0 switch ive heard those might be getting a gc emu or have a gc emu hidden away something like that guess il sit on it thanks for letting me know
i just looked at the specs on both and wondered why it wasn't done yet but i must be missing something

 

[8BitWonder]

ive got a 3.0.0 switch ive heard those might be getting a gc emu or have a gc emu hidden away something like that guess il sit on it thanks for letting me know
i just looked at the specs on both and wondered why it wasn't done yet but i must be missing something

The reason it hasn't been done yet with the switch is because there aren't any homebrew graphics drivers yet (something like that, please correct me if I'm wrong), though I believe Daeken from Reswitched is working on those. Still it might be a while but a gcn emulator for switch seems much more likely.

 

[mikey420]

Port no.... a fan made remake possible however the level of work that would be needed is beyond insane. You would literally need to construct the game engine from the ground up. You may be able to recycle the existing models but still this is an unrealistic project. Many have attempted such remakes and bailed on the project after realizing just how much work it will take and the lack of help they will/are receiving. Game ports in a professional setting often are created using the original source code for the game and thinly greatly decrease the amount of time needed to create a functional game engine and they can focus more on debugging and preparing the title for release. And the 3ds is no where near powerful enough to accurately or effectively emulate an NGC so that route wouldn't work either. If you do find someone to help you proceed I wish you the best but I don't know of any devs that would take on that amount of work for free.

 

[Dracari]

ive got a 3.0.0 switch ive heard those might be getting a gc emu or have a gc emu hidden away something like that guess il sit on it thanks for letting me know
i just looked at the specs on both and wondered why it wasn't done yet but i must be missing something

generally why it hasnt done when your going from one different architecture to another, IE PowerPC to say X86/X86-64 (PC) the Host hasto genraly a x# amount much more powerfull than the guest target. and requirements go up the more complex the target is and how far your emulating, (CPU/GPU/ every single chipset or general instructions. (how far in accuracy your going for) when it comes to emulation. and the Host CPU Performance also comes into play (thats why on any AMD CPU till the verry end of the 9X family of the FX iand the Ryzen, AMD has been total Crap for gamecube/Wii.PS2 emulation where intel has stomped all over AMD.)


if the 3DS used nearly identical hardware then it'd be dooable, (this is why the Wii/WiiU can do gamecube, why the PS3 w/ certain models did PS2 (the PS3 was simply powerfull enough to emulate the PS1 itself on all models,) Why 3DS does DS backwards. and to a fair extent GBA. @Jimmay123 i hope this cleared up a few things.

 

[mikey420]

FYI typically you will need something about twice as powerful as the device you are emulating to be able to do so effectively.

 

[Dracari]

while not always true in needing more "Horsepower" or raw grunt, comes in where you aim for 100% Cycle Accuracy or not (and this can affect how far compatible your emulator is w/ every game.)
a good example in terms of Accuracy vs Performance is to compare Snes9X/ZSnes to Higan/BSnes

Snes9X/ZSnes will run on just about any machine within the last 15 years w/o Issue, but systems a bit more dated around say 5 years will start to show some trouble say when recording/streaming from Bsnes (Accurate Mode) or Higan.

 

[SLiV3R]

Learn to code!

 

[Jimmay123]

Learn to code!

literally the most pointless reply ever

 

[KiiWii]

if the emulator is out of reach could we just maybe port the gc iso code to a .cia file?

<facedesk>If only it were that simple.

There was however a 2D unreleased version of windwaker that I could see used as inspiration for homebrew.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....-zelda-wind-waker-gba-prototype-in-2003?amp=1

 

[NekoMichi]

An emulator is out of the question, a homebrew project made from scratch could be done, but will take tons of work and it's unlikely someone would spend that time building an entire game for a homebrew project.

The easiest way would probably be to do a ROM hack of Majora's Mask 3D or something, since the engine's already there.

 

[Lonkherooftheworld]

An emulator is out of the question, a homebrew project made from scratch could be done, but will take tons of work and it's unlikely someone would spend that time building an entire game for a homebrew project.

The easiest way would probably be to do a ROM hack of Majora's Mask 3D or something, since the engine's already there.

okay can we start working on that or...

 

[lone_wolf323]

An emulator is out of the question, a homebrew project made from scratch could be done, but will take tons of work and it's unlikely someone would spend that time building an entire game for a homebrew project.

The easiest way would probably be to do a ROM hack of Majora's Mask 3D or something, since the engine's already there.

okay can we start working on that or...

probably not. your still asking for a ton of work to be done and very little return on such a thing. its doesnt look like its something anyone would want to bother with.

 

[Lonkherooftheworld]

An emulator is out of the question, a homebrew project made from scratch could be done, but will take tons of work and it's unlikely someone would spend that time building an entire game for a homebrew project.

The easiest way would probably be to do a ROM hack of Majora's Mask 3D or something, since the engine's already there.

okay, so can we start working on that or is there something else we could do? Also, just asking, would the map size be the same? How'd that work?