Is it racist to say "black person"?

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Well according to SJW's everything is racist, however, even worse, conservatives and far right-ist Pepe trolls like to believe that racism/sexism/homophobia is just a myth.

Honestly, I just try to avoid mentioning race altogether. We're all made up of stardust, and we're a tiny spec in the galaxy. Nothing less, nothing more.
The worst ones, believe it or not, are the ones who will just say outright "yeah I'm racist, what about it? You should be more tolerant about my choices :trollface:"
 

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That person is a bit crazy, I hope they locked him in some underground mental facility for eternity.

PS: I also think in almost any other part of the world half of the bus passengers would have kicked his ass already, the entitlement reeks, I guess Koreans are way too "pacific" though. Hell, I bet he would've been nearly lynched in Argentina.
Ya he would've been beat anywhere else for acting like that. I don't know why they didn't defend themselves, especially when he was getting up in peoples faces and pushing and pulling people. Especially to defend that lady who was only offering him a seat. Well he probably knows what Niga means now. Imagine how embarrassed he must be after that.
 

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I have to remark that the quoted post never said they "call" it a myth.

PS: I guess he means they believe it and act accordingly?
I was not intending to read a different meaning into it and that was what I read in that.

I have seen people say the holocaust was a myth.
A male-female wage gap has its existence questioned, with fairly compelling evidence from where I sit but different matter for a different thread.

I have seen people attempt to justify their dislike of different eye colour or whatever using all kinds of awful science, theoretical sources of morality, using a complete disregard of the underlying principles of stats and more.
Ditto some for a given gender.
Ditto some for a those that like to fumble genitals matching their own.

Never seen someone say or heavily imply any of those last three does not exist, or does not exist any more, similar to those first two though. I can't do much about what someone does in their head but the groups under discussion have never been shy, much less universally shy, about putting whatever else some find abominable to text and video yet. The extent, effects, applicability to their actions and more can and often are discussed all day long by some of those but the continued existence not so much.

Thinking further I would wonder if the poster I quoted had seen something like one of the ones where they say "racism is over and only a few backwater hillbillies and old people still go it", where they may perhaps be more of the opinion it, or at least its legacy, is still so very deeply entrenched in general society and the government thereof (something like http://www2.css.edu/app/depts/his/historyjournal/index.cfm?cat=7&art=312 perhaps).

Back on topic so to speak.
As I did not see it mentioned it. The "everything is racist" set was discussed, I assume we have all seen the various definitions some of said same try on where a given *ism is defined as something only the dominant group in society can perform. Under that... logic then where black could be deemed racist it may in turn not be possible have white be a similarly racist term if white people are some kind of dominant force in the culture. I don't know how widespread such a notion is but it does seem to percolate up fairly often.
 
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I am broadly familiar with most things that go on in such circles but I have never seen any of those call it a myth.
I've encountered quite a few conservatives online that have explained to me that they feel that "the whole modern-day racism/homophobia lie was created by angry liberals so they'd have a reason to play the victim card".

Listen, I'm not saying everything is racist or discriminatory, but I do see quite a lot of it, and not only online.

Therefor as far as I'm concerned, it's still a big problem.
 
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Most blacks or negros give me mixed messages. Some say it's racist for me to call them black. While others will says it's racist to say n****. So I'm left with the situation of just avoiding even mentioning their race/skin color/ethnic backround at all costs.
 

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I've encountered quite a few conservatives online that have explained to me that they feel that "the whole modern-day racism/homophobia lie was created by angry liberals so they'd have a reason to play the victim card".

Listen, I'm not saying everything is racist or discriminatory, but I do see quite a lot of it, and not only online.

Therefor as far as I'm concerned, it's still a big problem.

While I certainly don't plan to dismiss such things I do also have to say from where I sit there is a kernel of truth in that. If those that seem to have opposing such things as their raison d'etre keep wanting to invent new ways to call people *ist then we do get a bit of a "boy who cried wolf" issue.

So it's a big issue. Back to the raison d'etre types the moves made to combat it seem odd to me.
 

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Most blacks or negros give me mixed messages. Some say it's racist for me to call them black. While others will says it's racist to say n****. So I'm left with the situation of just avoiding even mentioning their race/skin color/ethnic backround at all costs.
Saying n**** (in English, I mean) I would say is DEFINITELY racist (not saying you had bad intentions) but that word has quite a history.
 

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If I'm trying to point someone out to someone else, I'm going to say what that person's most identifiable trait, whether it be, height, skin color, clothing, or hair. Which one I use shouldn't matter but to take offense is rediculous.

Side note: I hate the term "African American." Their family line may have come from Africa but as far as I'm concerned, they are 100% 'Merican!!!
That's why I don't mind saying "Black Person" because I deem the other term incorrect. I don't view these people as Africans, I see them as Americans!

I agree. If your an American citizen then that means your an American.
 
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No. That wouldn't make any sense. If you call someone a black person and they're offended then kindly tell them to fuck off.
it's literally just describing their skin color. Sometimes things like that can turn into a derogatory term after something bad happens related to the term and that's understandable but as far as I know that hasn't happened in this case, and they can't expect people to know not to say something as general as that.

Are you seriously saying to someone who is considering whether using the term black is racist or not ought to start telling people to 'fuck off'? Maybe you like fighting but I would be surprised to see you tell that guy on the Korea bus video to 'fuck off'. I would be terrified if that was me. To be honest the video scared me - I would never go on a bus again if that happened.
 
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Are you seriously saying to someone who is considering whether using the term black is racist or not ought to start telling people to 'fuck off'? Maybe you like fighting but I would be surprised to see you tell that guy on the Korea bus video to 'fuck off'. I would be terrified if that was me. To be honest the video scared me - I would never go on a bus again if that happened.
I didn't mean it seriously, maybe I should have made that more clear. Just trying to make an example of how ridiculous it is. I would never actually say something like that to a stranger no matter what I think of them.
 
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Why can a word be racist in the first place? You're racist if you think that other races are inferior or you ascribe stereotypical traits of a race to every individual of that race. Thats too much information to be expressed by a single word.
 
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As I said, the more race is mentioned the more potential problems will be created. Keep race out of everything as much as possible and you'll have no problems, trust me. Simple.
 
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Are you seriously saying to someone who is considering whether using the term black is racist or not ought to start telling people to 'fuck off'? Maybe you like fighting but I would be surprised to see you tell that guy on the Korea bus video to 'fuck off'. I would be terrified if that was me. To be honest the video scared me - I would never go on a bus again if that happened.

Heres a video of a Korean asking random black people if they know what niga (니가) means.

 

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depends a lot on context and wether or not black person is the only thing you say. like, say you have had ample chance to learn that black persons name yet you still opt for black person whenever you talk about them.

its also subjective as to whom you adress, some might feel you're reducing them to nothing but skin color, as you'd otherwise probably never refer to some dude as the white person either.
 

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Is black a colour? Yes. Is white a colour? Yes. Is yellow a colour? Yes.
You never argued with someone who had a different opinion on you whether "the sum of all colors" and "the sum of no colors" are to be considered a color or not technically a color? :)
 
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