Why do people get so triggered about introducing LGBT characters into movies?

[dpad_5678]

I just find it super ironic. Introducing LGBT characters into modern-day movies, is, somehow, seen as "forcing homosexuality and transexuality" on children and on any currently impressionable generation. In that insane logic, any movie with a cisgender person, or a straight couple, is forcing their heterosexuality on the LGBT community. Makes sense, right? No.

Being "gay" is, honestly, just as weird as being straight. It's not weird at all, so it sounds ridiculous.

- straight white male

 

[alevan]

There is nothing wrong by including LBGT characters into movies and series. As there never was with blacks or asians.

The problem starts, when the character is forced into the show, just for the sake of diversity. Just like with older movies, where the cast is white, but there is one black character (mostly killed of first in horrors), so the critics shut up.

One example: there is nothing wrong if somebody includes a gay character in a movie. Show his sexuality. But if every time he has screen time he has to flount it to the viewers, unnaturally, like he is "special" for his sexuality, not for his abilities or talents, it's unnatural.

There is difference between natural diversity and forced diversity.

 

[FAST6191]

You may be lumping multiple groups to create a larger number, one in turn worth making note of.

The ""forcing homosexuality and transexuality" on children" set I reckon I can write off as a small enough number to be of no great interest.

It is the appeasements to the "fiction must represent the percentages of reality, or indeed over represent the percentages of reality, else you are wrong" set in turn giving me boring as shit, or worse still completely unbelievable, characters that bothers me.

 

[JiveTheTurkey]

I have more of a problem with a rapist actor than seeing an openly gay actor on screen. I threw away my copy of Advanced Warfare because of Kevin Spacey. Could have sold it but it's trash.

 

[bkifft]

Would you happen to have an example, where the mere introduction (not replacement, introduction) of a LGBT charter ruffled feathers?

 

[dpad_5678]

There is nothing wrong by including LBGT characters into movies and series. As there never was with blacks or asians.

The problem starts, when the character is forced into the show, just for the sake of diversity. Just like with older movies, where the cast is white, but there is one black character (mostly killed of first in horrors), so the critics shut up.

One example: there is nothing wrong if somebody includes a gay character in a movie. Show his sexuality. But if every time he has screen time he has to flount it to the viewers, unnaturally, like he is "special" for his sexuality, not for his abilities or talents, it's unnatural.

There is difference between natural diversity and forced diversity.

I understand that, but for example, the character Valkyrie in Thor: Ragnarok was recently confirmed as bisexual in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Her comic book counterpart is also bisexual, and even then conservatives lost their minds everywhere, and saw that a common argument of theirs was that liberals are trying to "make everyone gay/bi".

Would you happen to have an example, where the mere introduction (not replacement, introduction) of a LGBT charter ruffled feathers?

I understand that, but for example, the character Valkyrie in Thor: Ragnarok was recently confirmed as bisexual in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Her comic book counterpart is also bisexual, and even then conservatives lost their minds everywhere, and saw that a common argument of theirs was that liberals are trying to "make everyone gay/bi".

 

[YTElias]

I have no problem with it. Sometimes i even like it

 

[Bimmel]

Yuck! Lesbians, gays and hetero - go away with them! And the black, brown, yellow as well. But the worst type of them all are those white bed sheets. Where does that lead us? Animal only movies, please! Humans suck.

Let humans be humans, simple as that. All these discussion are so senseless. Let there be love! ;-)

 

[TotalInsanity4]

There is nothing wrong by including LBGT characters into movies and series. As there never was with blacks or asians.

The problem starts, when the character is forced into the show, just for the sake of diversity. Just like with older movies, where the cast is white, but there is one black character (mostly killed of first in horrors), so the critics shut up.

One example: there is nothing wrong if somebody includes a gay character in a movie. Show his sexuality. But if every time he has screen time he has to flount it to the viewers, unnaturally, like he is "special" for his sexuality, not for his abilities or talents, it's unnatural.

There is difference between natural diversity and forced diversity.

There are a handful of people at my college who act like that that just because that's their character trait. Does it get annoying? Occasionally, yeah. Is it forced or unnatural? No

 

[YTElias]

Yuck! Lesbians, gays and hetero - go away with them! And the black, brown, yellow as well. But the worst type of them all are those white bed sheets. Where does that lead us? Animal only movies, please! Humans suck.

Let humans be humans, simple as that. All these discussion are so senseless. Let there be love! ;-)

Yeah with cats from the game Ghost Trick

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Yuck! Lesbians, gays and hetero - go away with them! And the black, brown, yellow as well. But the worst type of them all are those white bed sheets. Where does that lead us? Animal only movies, please! Humans suck.

This desperately needs the sarcasm tag

 

[Bimmel]

This desperately needs the sarcasm tag

I hope no one on this planet sympathizes with that. Thought it was idiotic enough.

 

[deinonychus71]

I understand that, but for example, the character Valkyrie in Thor: Ragnarok was recently confirmed as bisexual in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Her comic book counterpart is also bisexual, and even then conservatives lost their minds everywhere, and saw that a common argument of theirs was that liberals are trying to "make everyone gay/bi".

From what I've read, there were just as many people complaining that her sexuality was NOT brought up in the movie.
Imho Marvel was right not to mention it in movie. It brings literally nothing to the story. This would have been a typical case of forced diversity for no purpose.

(and I'm gay, I just don't care about representation)

 

[dpad_5678]

From what I've read, there were just as many people complaining that her sexuality was NOT brought up in the movie.
Imho Marvel was right not to mention it in movie. It brings literally nothing to the story. This would have been a typical case of forced diversity for no purpose.

(and I'm gay, I just don't care about representation)

That's exactly why they left it in a Blu-Ray exclusive deleted scene (Tessa Thompson also confirmed it on Twitter, but I don't see that as significant as the cut out scene). But the way the conservatrolls laced into that.......holy shit.

 

[Bimmel]

Yeah with cats from the game Ghost Trick

That would be.. awesome.

And a sweet golden strawberry for noticing my friend. :-)

 

[YTElias]

That would be.. awesome.

And a sweet golden strawberry for noticing my friend. :-)

Aww i played that game so much
I have it on a cartridge with whe original box and it keeps surprising me even tho i played it like 3 times

 

[deinonychus71]

That's exactly why they left it in a Blu-Ray exclusive deleted scene (Tessa Thompson also confirmed it on Twitter, but I don't see that as significant as the cut out scene). But the way the conservatrolls laced into that.......holy shit.

I wasn't aware of that...
But yeah, both sides of the spectrum can be extreme, and both sides are feeding each other.

But I must say, it does annoy the hell out of me when lgbt communities pretend to speak for all of us and complain about petty things like representation. (some people did it for Black Panther too)
They don't speak for all of us, most of us don't care.

 

[sarkwalvein]

Who is people?
TBH, I don't like it if they are not subtle.
I hate when they advertise once and again "hey, look, here is the LGBT character we put into the movie, look we're inclusive!".
I mean, I hate if the only reason (very publicised and unsubtle) to put any kind of character is to look like a good PC SJW and nothing else, I think that is insulting for everybody.

Do you mean that?

Now, if there are LGBT characters that... well, are actual good characters with a role that happen to be LGBT, instead of being a shameless and hollow attempt to promote the movie as fakely virtuous, then it is great by me.

I don't like attempts to capitalise and profit on something through faking virtue.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

The ones that I don't like are "we say our character is LGBT because we're inclusive but never actually write or show anything that confirms that so as to not make anyone who hates gays mad"

I'm looking at you, J K Rowling

 

[NANASHI89]

I just find it super ironic. Introducing LGBT characters into modern-day movies, is, somehow, seen as "forcing homosexuality and transexuality" on children and on any currently impressionable generation. In that insane logic, any movie with a cisgender person, or a straight couple, is forcing their heterosexuality on the LGBT community. Makes sense, right? No.

Being "gay" is, honestly, just as weird as being straight. It's not weird at all, so it sounds ridiculous.

- straight white male

I have no problem.

There are people who are upset though, because they see it as MORE of the same insanity that causes Hollywood to lose viewers. Everything has to have LGBT characters, or Black Characters, or Hispanic characters, or...

Here's an idea. If you're gonna add those kinds of characters in movies, make sure they're actually talented?

Not trying to be a magnificent ass, I'm saying use common sense.