What are some of your controversial gaming opinions

[fatsquirrel]

Star Wars E1: The Phantom Menace game was a brilliant gem

 

[brunocar]

(Keep in mind I'm not trying to start a flame war here, I just want to explain my point of view a bit more clearly)

When it comes to what I said about character design then sure, you could say that's personal preference, but I think we can all agree that - again - if a story driven game doesn't have a good story then it cannot really be considered all that good. Sure, there can be a good game without a good (or no) story but not only KH is an RPG (and I think it's pretty safe to say that the story matters a lot in an RPG) but it's also pretty obvious that the devs gave a lot of space to it in these specific games. In fact, if I really have to be completely objective and unbiased about it, the gameplay might not be completely bad but it's also not really all that special - there are arguably many better hack and slash games out there, even on the good ol' PS2 itself. So I really feel that in order to like KH as a game you must like the story to at least some extent and I don't know about you, but most people I've met that like or dislike it pretty much confirm what I've said so far.

you know, i never got why people always asume that because something has RPG in its genre it means it will have an epic story that will blow your socks off, etrian odessey has a simple story, EYE divine cybermancy has a good story that is hidden away for you to find, so why is it that people just hear "RPG" and asume great story, its like going into the original doom coming from bioshock and thinking you are gonna get a great story, i dont understand it.
my point here is, a lot of people, like me, like the combat and gameplay in general, some dont for the same reasons they dont like, say, dynasty warriors, so that part is really just preference, but if you think that the story is gonna fill the void that left the fact that you dont like the *gameplay* in a *game* then you are not looking at it in the right way, if you dont like turn based TRPGs then dont expect a great story out of project x zone

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Yes. You must have read over it:

I once considered buying a game, but wanted to try it out for myself first. So i pirated it. I ended up playing it so much that i held off buying it until it had a couple price cuts and a 75 percent discount.
In other words: had i bought the game rather than pirated it, the company would've gotten about 40 bucks extra in sales. Hence... Piracy influences sales.
(And that's an example where the company was able to sell me their game for one tenth of the price... i can give more than a few examples of companies i pirated that went bankrupt instead).

Your turn (in pb if you don't want to further detail this thread): prove to me that piracy not only doesn't affect sales, but in a way that doesn't involve a leap of faith (which is required if you really think you can "factually" prove it).

you dont seem to understand how sales numbers work, the point is that you bought a copy, not that you paid less after it lost part of its value and would have been cheaper no matter what

 

[Stephano]

- Smash64 > every other smash > melee.

I'll agree with you that smash 64 is better than brawl and Tr4sh. I like Melee, 64, and PM equally.

 

[RattletraPM]

you know, i never got why people always asume that because something has RPG in its genre it means it will have an epic story that will blow your socks off, etrian odessey has a simple story, EYE divine cybermancy has a good story that is hidden away for you to find, so why is it that people just hear "RPG" and asume great story, its like going into the original doom coming from bioshock and thinking you are gonna get a great story, i dont understand it.
my point here is, a lot of people, like me, like the combat and gameplay in general, some dont for the same reasons they dont like, say, dynasty warriors, so that part is really just preference, but if you think that the story is gonna fill the void that left the fact that you dont like the *gameplay* in a *game* then you are not looking at it in the right way, if you dont like turn based TRPGs then dont expect a great story out of project x zone

People expect a good story in RPGs because, as the name implies, they're all about immersing the player in a world, so RPGs tend to favour stuff such as worldbuilding, character design, storytelling, plot twists, the overall atmosphere and the like over gameplay, where it's usually reduced to a mimimum when compared to many other genres (just think classic turn based RPGs, for example). Of course this doesn't mean that hybrid RPG games usually have minimalistic gameplay, but that's the whole point about Kingdom Hearts: it has a poor storyline and a pretty generic gameplay that, while you could say it isn't bad per se, many other similiar games do it better, so it doesn't really check any of the boxes.

About games and storyline in particular, of course gameplay is important in a game but if it was all there is to it then we would all still be playing Pong, Doom, Tetris over and over again. Technology has evolved and so have games, and that's why the storyline (as well as other aspects, such as music and sounds) have become increasingly important, not to mention that new genres and games almost completely focused on storytelling itself have surfaced - take Life is Strange for example. It's quite undeniable that it's a videogame because the player can interact with the world around him and his decision will affect how the story unfolds but the whole gameplay is so limited that you can really call it a decision simulator. Or again, take Papers, Please. All you're doing is either labeling a piece of paper as valid or invalid, yet you're constantly stuck to the screen asking "Should I accept the bribes? What will happen to the people I detain? Will I get enough money to sustain my family and escape alive from this dictatorship?". And one last example: The Stanley Parable, but this one is so vast and unusual that you'd really have to see it for yourself. Not to mention, there are also a lot of other games out there that have a "meh" gameplay but are almost singlehandedly saved by their storyline (the first Mass Effect and Assassin's Creed, anyone? The later ones fixed and expanded the gameplay mechanics, but what really shined in their first installments, as most people will tell you, are the storylines).

So yeah, the lack of a good, complex gameplay CAN indeed be filled by a great storyline, in fact basically all of the games I mentioned so far are generally considered very good and yet I still have to see a single person that likes to play them for their gameplay.

 

[Stephano]

Star Wars E1: The Phantom Menace game was a brilliant gem

The "Dual of the Fates" scene and music are my favorites out of the entire series.

 

[Taleweaver]

you dont seem to understand how sales numbers work, the point is that you bought a copy, not that you paid less after it lost part of its value and would have been cheaper no matter what

How about you don't claim you can prove something if all you can do is get personal at those who challenges you to it?

 

[brunocar]

How about you don't claim you can prove something if all you can do is get personal at those who challenges you to it?

get personal? i just told you that you, the person im personally speaking to, doesnt know how sales and price falloffs work

 

[Anunnymous]

Ok... here goes.

I think the length of games, these days, completely ruins them. I don't see myself as a casual gamer, I've played a ton of games of all genres. I also like a decent length RPG. But when games are starting to take upwards of 100 hours and more, it completely ruins them for me. There are too many games out there that I want to play and if they're all taking an insane amount of time to complete then there is no time for them.

In my opinion, games should be less than 20 hours. I know most people enjoy hundred hour games because you feel like you're getting a better value for your money. But I'd much rather play it for 20 hours and anticipate a sequel. It keeps me excited for games. When it takes too long I get burnt out and usually ditch the game, no matter how incredible it might be.

 

[FAST6191]

Star Wars E1: The Phantom Menace game was a brilliant gem

If that is the same one I played on the PS1 (starts out with you on the ship facing shielded robots?) then I did find it more enjoyable than most of the reviews gave it credit for. Difficulty was a bit all over the place, though I was somewhat younger so might find it easier today.

When it takes too long I get burnt out and usually ditch the game, no matter how incredible it might be.

While I can certainly stand to hear a debate on game length I do have to make the snarky remark of if it was that incredible then you would not be burned out.

 

[Perfect One]

Xbox is a better company than Sony. I'm not talking games or exclusives--just as a gaming company on its own.

Microsoft is a 'SO NICE' company that they tryed to deny/forbid some of our gamer rights, like sell/transfer digital 'used' games and so on (who watched the E3 Xbox One reveal know what i am talking about) which, ironically, made Sony's job so easy that they did nothing than don't go to the same path that Microsoft tryed to choose, so, they easily won Wii U/PS4/Xbox One gen.

After all that, they were forced to run against their mistakes, since they were losing a load of cash from Xbox section.

Seeing all that we know how Microsoft really is if they could dominate on consoles/games like they do on PC..

 

[Anunnymous]

While I can certainly stand to hear a debate on game length I do have to make the snarky remark of if it was that incredible then you would not be burned out.

Haha. I could understand where the confusion comes in. More times than not, a lot has to due with how slow a game starts. "Dude, after you get a quarter of the way in, it gets really good." Unfortunately a quarter of the way in could be 20-30 hours. That's too much time for me to invest in a game that "gets better." The other part that plays a role is my attention span. While I think Breath of the Wild was a fantastic game; it took me 3 times starting to get through it. The first time was only an hour or so. It didn't necessarily start slow but I played a good 10 hours, pretty much hooked, for the most part. Then I just stopped. Other games stood out or I get into a TV series or life just happens. I went a long time without playing it. Then I got a Switch and a buddy of mine said I have to give it another shot. Maybe it was the fact that I got a new console and was just wanting to try something great on it but I played a couple hours every night until finished, that time.

I think it's more that I don't really have the time to invest into games, like I used to, and a lot of the really long games are hard for me to just play a few hours on weekends cause I tend to forget where I was and what I was doing from week-to-week. It's just easier to start a shorter game Friday night and be done with it by Sunday night.

 

[Kioku]

Microsoft is a 'SO NICE' company that they tryed to deny/forbid some of our gamer rights, like sell/transfer digital 'used' games and so on (who watched the E3 Xbox One reveal know what i am talking about) which, ironically, made Sony's job so easy that they did nothing than don't go to the same path that Microsoft tryed to choose, so, they easily won Wii U/PS4/Xbox One gen.

After all that, they were forced to run against their mistakes, since they were losing a load of cash from Xbox section.

Seeing all that we know how Microsoft really is if they could dominate on consoles/games like they do on PC..

Not digital games, but physical.

 

[orangy57]

super mario odyssey isnt as amazing as everyone makes it out to be
like sure it's okay but everyone's giving it a ten out of ten when there's a lot of things they can improve in the design

 

[jt_1258]

I like Final Fantasy XIII(the first one) & I hate Super Smash Bros. Melee

 

[MiguelinCrafter]

FF 7 is too long and boring

 

[Perfect One]

Not digital games, but physical.

I remember seeing they saying similar stuff for digital games too.

Good lord that they never could do that, thanks to the extremely negative feedback from everyone which, as i said, forced them to make some nice stuff to make everyone forget their GIANT mistakes.

 

[Anunnymous]

I remember seeing they saying similar stuff for digital games too.

I think it was always physical. Nobody has ever made a platform to where you can sell your used, digital games. How would that even be possible? You can't sell/trade your used digital games on PS4 either, unless you sell your account but then you risk the seller just recovering the account.

 

[Perfect One]

I think it was always physical. Nobody has ever made a platform to where you can sell your used, digital games. How would that even be possible? You can't sell/trade your used digital games on PS4 either, unless you sell your account but then you risk the seller just recovering the account.

Well, thanks for that info.

But, anyways, as i wrote here, Microsoft isn't a nice company and deserves what they are facing now on Xbox section.

 

[antiNT]

Graphics are not important in games.

 

[Stephano]

Oblivion is better than Skyrim.
Skyrim is overrated.