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I did as you instructed me Quantumcat, but the Emunand (reinand 11.2) still doesn't boot to the home screen and I tried to delete extdata and ended up with "error". I still get the same error "Failed to mount CTRnand" The file that I'm trying to mount is 171016_UNKNOWNXXX_Sysnand_000.bin This file was originally backed up from GM9 a month ago and I don't know why is that file renamed into "UNKNOWNXX".The file was supposed to be name based off from my 3ds model #. My 3ds model# is QW103903161. It was supposed to be 171016_QW103903161_sysnand_000.bin. The program that was previously used to back up with Reinand awhile back was Emunand9. I'm already regreting for switching my CFW just to do NTRboot. Lol

I was wondering, if I backed up my sysnand 9.2 with Emunand9 program that I haven't use it yet. Is it possible to shift the firmware from 9.2 to 11.6, then from 11.6 to 9.2 again by injecting CTRnand with GM9.
You can always do a CTRTransfer. I don't understand what you mean by switching CFW to use ntrboot. Ntrboot is used to install CFW - if you have CFW already you would have no need for ntrboot?

Anyway before you do anything else you should backup your SD card and test it with H2testw https://3ds.guide/h2testw-(windows)
 

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You can always do a CTRTransfer. I don't understand what you mean by switching CFW to use ntrboot. Ntrboot is used to install CFW - if you have CFW already you would have no need for ntrboot?

Anyway before you do anything else you should backup your SD card and test it with H2testw https://3ds.guide/h2testw-(windows)
Okay, I'll let you know my result for CTRTransfer soon. For NTRboot I thought it was used for streaming. I wanted to do my 3ds gameplay stream.
 
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Couple of questions here.
Are there any anti-piracy measures to games that I plan to install on my o2ds as .cia files that would require I look for special versions/jump through hoops to get working?

Are there any games I'd have to buy physically as they just will not work as installed .cias?

Can I use .cias without being on CFW, and thus be able to play online, if I use a flashcart to play them?
 

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Couple of questions here.
1. Are there any anti-piracy measures to games that I plan to install on my o2ds as .cia files that would require I look for special versions/jump through hoops to get working?

2. Are there any games I'd have to buy physically as they just will not work as installed .cias?

3. Can I use .cias without being on CFW, and thus be able to play online, if I use a flashcart to play them?

1. No
2. No
3. You can't use them without cfw, except if you get a ~80$ flashcard, but there's no reason not to get cfw, because you can play online even if you have cfw.
 

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So my brother recently decided to upgrade his old 3ds to a new one, and I got to keep the old one. Of course the first thing I'm going to do is to crack it. Problem is, I have very little idea on how these things work. So before I start doing anything, I want to get all my ducks in a row.

After reading the guide I've got a few questions:
  1. Since I got a completely reset 3ds, and had to enter in Nicknames, Region, and Date (etc), I decided to forego inputting any wifi information. Under "Getting started" it suggests ways to avoid banwaves by disabling telemetry. Do either of these matter since I never agreed to either in the first place, and will they affect any step of the process (I assume not, but better be sure.) Should I open the internet before doing the crack?
  2. I've got a 11.6.0-39U, I assume I can just follow the steps for NTRboot single system just fine?
  3. I don't quite understand what the table in the ntrboot page is meant to convey. Is it saying that for example, I can't use Acekard 2i to break the system because my firmware is too high? Also, what is the purpose of the DS listing?
  4. When looking at the switch carts, what is the 3DS mode for? Just using ntrboot? After I insert CFW, is there any reason other than to recrack to put it back into 3DS mode?
  5. Where does the cart go? The 3ds slot or the SD card slot? If it goes into the SD card slot, does this mean the old 32gb Full SD card I bought my brother as a gift is now useless, and I should get a micro/mini to stick into the top of the flashcart?
  6. If I get a cart preloaded (Say Ace3DSX), I don't need to follow these steps because it should already be installed, correct?
  7. Related to 6:
    • 2: Insert your device’s SD card into your computer
    • This is the SD card from your 3DS, not the SD card from your flashcart
    This implies 6 is the top slot for 3ds cards. Then what is the SD card in the flashcart for?
  8. Having read the review for Ace3DSX, what are these "advanced emulation features?"
  9. From the comments: What are "other payloads" and "B9S payloads"?
  10. This comment says the card is only for DS games. I remember the original DS Flashcart I had (was an acekard I believe) had DS games loaded onto the sdcard inside the cart. Does this not work the same for 3ds software?
  11. What the hell is wood (and maybe gold?)
 
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So my brother recently decided to upgrade his old 3ds to a new one, and I got to keep the old one. Of course the first thing I'm going to do is to crack it. Problem is, I have very little idea on how these things work. So before I start doing anything, I want to get all my ducks in a row.

After reading the guide I've got a few questions:
  1. Since I got a completely reset 3ds, and had to enter in Nicknames, Region, and Date (etc), I decided to forego inputting any wifi information. Under "Getting started" it suggests ways to avoid banwaves by disabling telemetry. Do either of these matter since I never agreed to either in the first place, and will they affect any step of the process (I assume not, but better be sure.) Should I open the internet before doing the crack?
  2. I've got a 11.6.0-39U, I assume I can just follow the steps for NTRboot single system just fine?
  3. I don't quite understand what the table in the ntrboot page is meant to convey. Is it saying that for example, I can't use Acekard 2i to break the system because my firmware is too high? Also, what is the purpose of the DS listing?
  4. When looking at the switch carts, what is the 3DS mode for? Just using ntrboot? After I insert CFW, is there any reason other than to recrack to put it back into 3DS mode?
  5. Where does the cart go? The 3ds slot or the SD card slot? If it goes into the SD card slot, does this mean the old 32gb Full SD card I bought my brother as a gift is now useless, and I should get a micro/mini to stick into the top of the flashcart?
  6. If I get a cart preloaded (Say Ace3DSX), I don't need to follow these steps because it should already be installed, correct?
  7. Related to 6:
    • 2: Insert your device’s SD card into your computer
    • This is the SD card from your 3DS, not the SD card from your flashcart
    This implies 6 is the top slot for 3ds cards. Then what is the SD card in the flashcart for?
  8. Having read the review for Ace3DSX, what are these "advanced emulation features?"
  9. From the comments: What are "other payloads" and "B9S payloads"?
  10. This comment says the card is only for DS games. I remember the original DS Flashcart I had (was an acekard I believe) had DS games loaded onto the sdcard inside the cart. Does this not work the same for 3ds software?
  11. What the hell is wood (and maybe gold?)
1. Just do the steps
2. Yes
3. Ntrboot can be installed on any of those flashcards. For those that don't support your current 3ds version you'd need to use an already hacked 3ds, dsi, or original ds (lite). If using 3ds single system or dsi methods, the flashcard must support the current system version, but 3ds multi system and nds methods work on any card.
4. Yes. It's only used for ntrboot and you don't need it after you have cfw.
5. The flashcard goes to the game cart slot.
6. Yes
7. Yes, it means the 3ds' sd.
8. I'm not sure what the reviewer is talking about, but it probably doesn't matter because you can get emulators/virtual console on cfw.
9. Other payloads, most notably GodMode9 are mostly used for 3ds hacking speedruns (Yes, that's a thing) or otherwise quickly hacking a lot of consoles. It has B9S preinstalled and that's all you're really going to need. B9S just loads boot.firm from the 3ds' sd card.
10. The flashcard is only for ds games, but when you follow 3ds.guide you install cfw and then you can play 3ds games directly on the 3ds without even needing the flashcard for anything else than ds games.
11. Wood is a popular flashcard kernel, but you don't need to worry about it. Gold is just branding in flashcard names.
 
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4. Yes. It's only used for ntrboot and you don't need it after you have cfw.
5. The flashcard goes to the game cart slot.
7. Yes, it means the 3ds' sd.
9. It has B9S preinstalled and that's all you're really going to need. B9S just loads boot.firm from the 3ds' sd card.
10. The flashcard is only for ds games, but when you follow 3ds.guide you install cfw and then you can play 3ds games directly on the 3ds without even needing the flashcard for anything else than ds games.

So if I'm understanding things correctly, after I CFW the 3ds, the flashcart is used to play DS games, and the 3DS SD card is used to play 3ds games after installing them from CIA. Since no part of the system after I CFW on boot requires the flashcard, can I take it out and stow it away, and then use the game slot for regular games?

As I need to install CIA onto the SD card, the SD card size in the 3ds seems to be to most important thing. After searching around on the forums, it seems that if I ever want to upgrade the size of my 32gb SD card, I only need to copy the entire contents over to the new one? On the same note, it seems that the 3ds has a few issues with sizes over 128gb. How much truth is there to these claims.

Finally, this page gives details on emunand and sysnand, and how to prevent/recover from a brick. Is this still relevant? Down further in posts it says someone doesn't need emunand. Should I run from emunand to basically always prevent a brick?
 

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So if I'm understanding things correctly, after I CFW the 3ds, the flashcart is used to play DS games, and the 3DS SD card is used to play 3ds games after installing them from CIA. Since no part of the system after I CFW on boot requires the flashcard, can I take it out and stow it away, and then use the game slot for regular games?

As I need to install CIA onto the SD card, the SD card size in the 3ds seems to be to most important thing. After searching around on the forums, it seems that if I ever want to upgrade the size of my 32gb SD card, I only need to copy the entire contents over to the new one? On the same note, it seems that the 3ds has a few issues with sizes over 128gb. How much truth is there to these claims.

You use the SD in the 3DS not the flascart for the 3DS games. After install complety the CFW and *restore* the flashcart's functions (for use it to play NDS games), you can take out the flashcard, you don't need more. And yes, you can use the slot for oficial games NDS or 3DS with CFW.

If you want to change the SD card of your 3DS you need:

Section V - CTRNAND Luma3DS
  1. Reboot holding (Start) to launch GodMode9
  2. If you are prompted to create an essential files backup, press (A) to do so, then press (A) to continue once it has completed
  3. If you are prompted to fix the RTC date&time, press (A) to do so, then set the date and time, then press (A) to continue
    • Note that, if you had to fix the RTC date and time, you will have to fix the time in the System Settings as well after this guide
  4. Press (Home) to bring up the action menu
  5. Select “Scripts…”
  6. Select “setup_ctrnand_luma3ds”
  7. When prompted, press (A) to proceed
  8. Press (A) to unlock SysNAND (lvl1) writing, then input the key combo given
  9. Press (A) to continue
  10. Press (A) to relock write permissions

source: https://3ds.guide

I use a micro SD 64 GB formating with God9Mode and Works very good, some people have troubles of W/R with micro SD 128 GB or more
 

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1. So if I'm understanding things correctly, after I CFW the 3ds, the flashcart is used to play DS games, and the 3DS SD card is used to play 3ds games after installing them from CIA. Since no part of the system after I CFW on boot requires the flashcard, can I take it out and stow it away, and then use the game slot for regular games?

2. As I need to install CIA onto the SD card, the SD card size in the 3ds seems to be to most important thing. After searching around on the forums, it seems that if I ever want to upgrade the size of my 32gb SD card, I only need to copy the entire contents over to the new one? On the same note, it seems that the 3ds has a few issues with sizes over 128gb. How much truth is there to these claims.

3. Finally, this page gives details on emunand and sysnand, and how to prevent/recover from a brick. Is this still relevant? Down further in posts it says someone doesn't need emunand. Should I run from emunand to basically always prevent a brick?

1. Yes
2. 32gb is probably enough unless you want to have all the biggest games installed at the same time, but you're definitely not going to need more than 128gb so no need to worry about it. Just copy-pasting works if you want to upgrade.
3. Emunand is no longer relevant.
 
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1. Yes
2. 32gb is probably enough unless you want to have all the biggest games installed at the same time, but you're definitely not going to need more than 128gb so no need to worry about it. Just copy-pasting works if you want to upgrade.
3. Emunand is no longer relevant.
I'm assuming a backup is still a very good idea.

On the point of emunand. What recourse is there to a bad cia and recovering from a brick? Do I just reCFW again with the flashcart and magnet?

Thank you very much for your help! :yay::yay3ds::toot:
 
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I'm assuming a backup is still a very good idea.

On the point of emunand. What recourse is there to a bad cia and recovering from a brick? Do I just reCFW again with the flashcart and magnet?

Thank you very much for your help! :yay::yay3ds::toot:
As always backups help you not lose data if you mess up badly. Bricking the 3ds is quite hard by accident and basically every brick is recoverable with ntrboot.
 

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I'm assuming a backup is still a very good idea.

On the point of emunand. What recourse is there to a bad cia and recovering from a brick? Do I just reCFW again with the flashcart and magnet?

Thank you very much for your help! :yay::yay3ds::toot:
You just restore a backup or do a CTR transfer through GodMode9.
 

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how can I remap my L/R buttons to my ZL/ZR buttons?? my n3ds and I have been in too many battles and they no longer work... I want to play other games that use the L/R buttons... a luma patch that activates on boot would work just fine
I think there's no way at least yet to do that. It could technically be done and the code is mostly written in Rosalina input redirection, but no-one has done it.
 

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Then what's the advantage of having Luma up to date? Do I have more risk when updating the 3ds? Sorry for all the questions and thanks for taking the time to answer me.
There may come a point in time where a9lh+Luma v7.0.5 will no longer work after a system updates and if you have boot9strap, you won't have to worry about that. It's better to be safe now then to not update and panic later.
 
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