Hacking Ocarina black screen - USB Loader GX

[Polopop123]

When I enable Ocarina and boot a game it just black screens and I have to reboot. Even with no cheats on it does the same. I'll try and post a sys check soon

 

[Polopop123]

Spoiler: syscheck

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: PAL
System Menu 4.3E (v514)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 12.07.2010
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x21
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Ireland (82)
Boot2 v4
Found 81 titles.
Found 48 IOS on this console. 15 of them are stubs.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6944): No Patches
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v65535
Report generated on 08/24/2017.

 

[Cyan]

Use slot250 instead of 249 (it has better game compatibility).

About your ocarina issue, I have no idea why it's not working. sorry.
did you try many games? Wii games, VC/WiiWare channels ?
Do you have a "gameconfig.txt" file on your SD or USB ? (root on inside the codes/ folder), if you do, delete it and try again.

 

[Polopop123]

Use slot250 instead of 249 (it has better game compatibility).

About your ocarina issue, I have no idea why it's not working. sorry.
did you try many games? Wii games, VC/WiiWare channels ?
Do you have a "gameconfig.txt" file on your SD or USB ? (root on inside the codes/ folder), if you do, delete it and try again.

I think I worded that badly. With ocarina off the games run fine. With it on they don't, even if no cheats are active.
There's no gameconfig txt file

 

[Cyan]

yeah, You worded that correctly, and I understood it the first time.

My comment is still valid:
use slot250 (in general), it's better for game compatibility with r52 base57 and you have it in slot250.

about Ocarina, I don't know why it black screen when you enable the option, "even without cheat selected or without gct file generated".
that's why I thought about the gameconfig.txt, because enabling Ocarina or a Hooktype automatically enable the patching of the memory using the gameconfig.txt content if found.

so, you don't have a gameconfig.txt, which is ONE of my question answered so far. good. we are narrowing the cause to find the issue.

Now, second question you didn't answer :
did you try many games with Ocarina option ?
are ALL the game not working, or only Wii Games, or only Channels (Virtual console, wiiware), installed on NAND, or EmuNAND ?
Which game did you try ?
Did you even try Ocarina option for Nintendont (yeah, you know, that's ALSO ocarina) but I doubt it will black screen, it's not using the same launching method. that was just to show you that I understood you the first time, but you didn't answered my questions.
Who could you get help if you don't provide asked information ?


new question for you :
- which revision of the loader are you using ? r1263/1264 ? that's good.
if it's older, update it first, there was a bug in cheat engine on previous revision.

- Which hooktype is set as Global ? VI sync is the one you should use, maybe you switched the hooktype option inadvertently.

- are your game write protected on FAT32 ? it's a cause of black screen. No Idea if it's linked to Ocarina, it's just a black screen cause so just verify (for real, not "you think", just check please). checking is used to narrow the cause, narrowing a lot will let you put away possibility and focus on remaining ones. that's how you debug, that's how I debug and helped all previous users before you.
that's just easy : TRY different things and see what happens. base your next try on previous observations.

 

[Polopop123]

Gamecube games use ocarina fine, although some cheats dont work and it randomly crashed once
Im using r1263
All i found in Hooktype is VBI Default, is that it? That gave me a black screen
Its not write protected now (dont know if it was before) but now i can get past the black screen but it crashes at random time (entering a lvl, after press 2 to start screen)

 

[Cyan]

yeah, sorry, I often forget the proper name and I used VI instead of VBI.

now it work, but you didn't change anything? or it wasn't set to VBI and you set it back ? (vbi is the default value).

no idea why it crashes at random time now.
which game ? you still didn't answer that. as some games have anti-cheat detection, like kirby.
New super Mario Wii should not crash, the loader is patching the Antipiracy check automatically.

also, some cheats aren't compatible with some others, it can conflict. try enabling less cheat at the same time to find the problematic one.

 

[Polopop123]

It was set to None at first but then I set it to VBI
I was using NSMBW
I'll try fiddling with the cheats when i can

 

[Polopop123]

Games run fine with no ocarina (Hooktype is VBI)
When i backup a game it just freezes at a certain percent (Loader IOS is 58)
Ocarina just crashes the game, with any cheat selected

 

[Cyan]

hmmm, you are using a flashdrive, right?
don't.
use an external hard drive instead. flash is known (apparently not known enough) that they are not compatible with Wii USB Loaders.


If you are already using HDD, that's strange that it freezes and crashes.

 

[Polopop123]

FAT32 External HDD

 

[Cyan]

Ah, then no idea why it freezes when dumping the disc to hdd.
did you try using CleanRIP instead? (though, it will make a full 1:1 4GB ISO instead of small wbfs file)
you can try wiiflow, though it says "dump feature is broken", then maybe try CFGLoader's dump feature.


Still no idea why it freeze/crashes with Ocarina. Something is wrong with your setup as it work for everyone else.
I don't know what to suggest other than reinstall and/or reset all settings. try another hard drive, try another iso, try another console with your current setup.... another anything to narrow the issue !! that's how debugging works.

 

[Polopop123]

Using Cleanrip right now although it takes a while to backup the games. I was gonna use Wii Backup Manager and put my Wii Disc in my DVD Drive and convert it from there but it just spits the Disc out.
I used Wiiflow a couple days ago but it got to 100% and it gave me the Exception (DSL) Error with a bunch of numbers. Ill try CFG Loader then I guess as thats my last option at this point. Thanks

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Do you know a place I could find the latest version of CFG Loader?

 

[Cyan]

the Wii disc are scrambled and disc sectors shifted, so the computer can't read it.
it can read/dump an already un-shifted disc image (burned ISO disc).

I'm not following CFGLoader development, you can find the official thread here : https://gbatemp.net/threads/configurable-usb-loader.147638/
I'm sure there is another thread for a modded version in the same section of the forum. it may be the latest one instead of the one you'll find in the official thread.

 

[Polopop123]

I have the .dol file. Is it required to have the meta.xml file also?

 

[Cyan]

yes, the meta grants you access to new features (like NAND access, disc access, signature patch, etc.)
you can use a generic or old one.

 

[Polopop123]

CFG Loader backed up the games fine although the games don't run on CFG loader (music stops playing then crashes a couple seconds after). They run on USB Loader GX, now all I need is Ocarina to start running properly

 

[Cyan]

it's really strange each loaders having different behavior.
the one responsible for the compatibility is not the loader but the cIOS (the loader is not in memory anymore when you play the game).

Could it be hardware issue ? do you have an official wiimote? or third party ?
sorry for all these question, just trying to find the reason you have issues, could be anything you didn't tell because you didn't even thought it could cause issues.

it's a real EUR console, not a korean converted to PAL? etc.
these kind of thing you didn't tell or thought

 

[Polopop123]

it's really strange each loaders having different behavior.
the one responsible for the compatibility is not the loader but the cIOS (the loader is not in memory anymore when you play the game).

Could it be hardware issue ? do you have an official wiimote? or third party ?
sorry for all these question, just trying to find the reason you have issues, could be anything you didn't tell because you didn't even thought it could cause issues.

it's a real EUR console, not a korean converted to PAL? etc.
these kind of thing you didn't tell or thought

All the Wii motes I have are official
I have the Blue family Edition Wii (M&S Olympic Games 2012 cos my white Wii packed in). Anyway I can know if it's converted?

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Would it be worth it downloading another version of D2x cios installer that you know will work 100% just to be sure and rule that out of the equation?

 

[Cyan]

you can try d2x cIOS installer 2.2 instead of 3.1
even if I never encounter errors with latest 3.1, I hears it has some issues (and that's why v2.2 was used as base for vWii d2x installer version).

you have the chance that googlecode is still online, in archived mode :
https://code.google.com/archive/p/d2x-cios-installer/downloads
you can find the installer v2.2 there.

replace the dol and it should be enough.
don't replace the ciosmap.xml or you'll have only d2x v6 available.