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And yet, people expect us to sit idly by and let Kim Jong Douche to get away with it.
Nobody expects that, but nor does anybody expect that Trump will be able to handle a delicate situation like this properly. He's already fucked it up in several ways, after all.
 
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Nobody expects that, but nor does anybody expect that Trump will be able to handle a delicate situation like this properly. He's already fucked it up in several ways, after all.

I doubt Obama would've fared any better given the same situation, he would have just sat there, twiddling his thumbs and talking with Jimmy Falon. Clinton would've blown it.
 

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I doubt Obama would've fared any better given the same situation, he would have just sat there, twiddling his thumbs and talking with Jimmy Falon. Clinton would've blown it.
Horse shit. There was a reason we didn't tack on any additional wars under Obama. When there was a problem he handled it, like Libya and Bin Laden and Iran. Clinton would've used basically the same strategies as Obama, and things would've been far more stable. In addition, the word is that Russia is providing N Korea with hardware, stoking the flames. Trump will of course not even address that, where any other president would.
 
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You can't call sticking your head in the sand and ignoring it or drawing red lines which are crossed and still ignoring it, handling it properly.
This is pretty much what every administration has been doing since clinton administration, just let the next guy deal with it mentality isn't working and thats why we are here today in this situation.
 

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Horse shit. There was a reason we didn't tack on any additional wars under Obama. When there was a problem he handled it, like Libya and Bin Laden and Iran. Clinton would've used basically the same strategies as Obama, and things would've been far more stable. In addition, the word is that Russia is providing N Korea with hardware, stoking the flames. Trump will of course not even address that, where any other president would.

Whatever, I stand by people are still asshurt that their precious Liberal POTUS didn't win the election, Whether he's impeached or not, people are gonna have to deal with him for however long he's in office. People need to get over it already.

Neither Clinton nor Trump are fit for POTUS.
 

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Whatever, I stand by people are still asshurt that their precious Liberal POTUS didn't win the election, Whether he's impeached or not, people are gonna have to deal with him for however long he's in office. People need to get over it already.
People are past the election, and on to Mueller's investigation, Trump's crimes while in office, and Trump's incompetence. It's really impossible to get past all that, considering it affects the way the country is run on a day-to-day basis. In essence there is no federal leadership in this moment, and individual states are running the show, so I suppose people better pray they have competent governors.
 
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You can't call sticking your head in the sand and ignoring it or drawing red lines which are crossed and still ignoring it, handling it properly.
This is pretty much what every administration has been doing since clinton administration, just let the next guy deal with it mentality isn't working and thats why we are here today in this situation.
Threatening to preemptively strike with "fire and fury," which for all we know could be the entire US nuclear arsenal isn't "handling it properly," either
 
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People are past the election, and on to Mueller's investigation, Trump's crimes while in office, and Trump's incompetence. It's really impossible to get past all that, considering it affects the way the country is run on a day-to-day basis. In essence there is no federal leadership in this moment, and individual states are running the show, so I suppose people better pray they have competent governors.

No POTUS has ever been perfect, and never will be perfect, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, none of them are angelic. Charismatic in some, yes, but charisma doesn't do a damn thing if they can't lead. The election was a joke, neither of them should've been a candidate, I'd rather have Cruz or Rubio, but no, they pussied out. I didn't like Hillary's views, there, I said it, I have a different opinion, hate me for not having a liberal viewpoint.

I'm sorry, but I didn't care for Obama's policies, I didn't agree with many of them, and that's my opinion and my view. Deal with it.

Threatening to preemptively strike with "fire and fury," which for all we know could be the entire US nuclear arsenal isn't "handling it properly," either
No, but Kim threatening to blow up Guam doesn't bode well, either. He needs to be neutralized stealthily.
 
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No POTUS has ever been perfect, and never will be perfect, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, none of them are angelic. Charismatic in some, yes, but charisma doesn't do a damn thing if they can't lead. The election was a joke, neither of them should've been a candidate, I'd rather have Cruz or Rubio, but no, they pussied out. I didn't like Hillary's views, there, I said it, I have a different opinion, hate me for not having a liberal viewpoint.
Nobody's asking for perfect, but somebody who isn't basically an unregistered foreign agent profiting from the presidency would be great. Blatant criminal behavior can't be tolerated in the white house, which is why Nixon got the boot. There are very good reasons why the rules about nepotism, business interests in the white house, and foreign influence exist. Every sitting president you named followed these rules regardless of what else you think about them, and Trump has not followed any of these rules, which leaves him completely exposed to blackmail and bribery, among other conflicts of interest.
 
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From their statement about bombing Guam.
Actually I don't think they outright threatened to bomb them, they threatened to send missiles in an arc over Japan which would put the landing trajectory near Guam

For what it's worth, Japan has already mobilized navy fleets with surface-to-air missiles as a preventative measure
 
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Actually I don't think they outright threatened to bomb them, they threatened to send missiles in an arc over Japan which would put the landing trajectory near Guam

For what it's worth, Japan has already mobilized navy fleets with surface-to-air missiles as a preventative measure

To be specific. They plan on hitting 30-40Km away from Guam

And if kim approves of this plan then i dont see Trump sitting on his ass and allowing this to happen without any reprimand.

This is it, the ball is in kims court now.

Edit: I should note that trump just said that any threat or actions towards guam will results in consequences.

And as it stands:

Usa has Japan,Sk and Australia who have confirmed that they would definitely join in going to war with NK

And North Korea only has China as support in the event of war. But that is only if America attacks NK first

Where Russia's stance on the matter is TBA right now.(But i would assume they would back NK but only under the same terms that China has implied.)

Other countries that are also TBA right now are the UK,Canada and other parts of Asia (like India but then again i dont ever see the middle eastern countries joining this kind of war since they have a lot on their plate as it is right now)

But i am interested to see if Iran would side with NK. In the event of war, i can totally see them joining NK and wiping out Israel(or trying too) as that is one of their main goals.
 
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Actually I don't think they outright threatened to bomb them, they threatened to send missiles in an arc over Japan which would put the landing trajectory near Guam

For what it's worth, Japan has already mobilized navy fleets with surface-to-air missiles as a preventative measure

I see nothing wrong with Japan setting up as a precaution. Kim's just a douche.
 
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Although I think something very similar has been said in this thread earlier, I'm going to say it anyways: if you cut all trade going in and out of NK and completely isolate it from the rest of the world the country would probably implode within six months. I have a feeling China and Russia wouldn't be too into that idea though.
 
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Actually I don't think they outright threatened to bomb them, they threatened to send missiles in an arc over Japan which would put the landing trajectory near Guam

For what it's worth, Japan has already mobilized navy fleets with surface-to-air missiles as a preventative measure
Sorry, they only threatened the island of Guam with "enveloping fire." And that itself was only a response to Trump's "fire and fury" threat.
 

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One thing I've learned from donald, is if someone has something better than you and it makes you feel small inside, don't stay away from them. Don't make friends with them. Don't keep it cordial just not have it come to a fight. Don't be professional. GET UGLY, MAKE FIGHT! FIGHT FIXES EVERYTHING! YOURE FIRED! IM SCARED! I FIRED! ELIMINATE THE ONE THAT MAKES YOU FEEL SMALL!
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One thing I've learned from donald, is if someone has something better than you and it makes you feel small inside, don't stay away from them. Don't make friends with them. Don't keep it cordial just not have it come to a fight. Don't be professional. GET UGLY, MAKE FIGHT! FIGHT FIXES EVERYTHING! YOURE FIRED! IM SCARED! I FIRED! ELIMINATE THE ONE THAT MAKES YOU FEEL SMALL!
Most insane thinking/tweeting.

Yes, let's make friends with a dictator who systematically kills his own people, that'll work :rolleyes:
 

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