what does the term sjw mean?

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I am not trying to cause or stir any controversy. I am just interested to know what does this term mean. I know it is short for "social justice warriors". and I used to understand it as a term given to far left individuals.

But now I see that term associated with all kinds of people: (people who criticize trump, the media, liberals, feminists, game developers, youtubers, etc , and even conservatives in some cases)


I am an American, but I only came here recently, so that term sounds confusing for me and I am not quite sure what constitutes as sjw and what does not? cause I see some game developers for example being called sjw without making any political statement, like people calling guerilla games director an sjw.

I am not here to challenge anyone, I just want to understand what it means and when do people call you that?
 
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It's suppose to be a term used for people who basically go out of their way to defend social justice. But it's become a term used to basically describe everything at this point.
 

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I guess one way to some up what an "SJW" is are people who are politically correct to an extent that to most seems "Ridiculous"
People who think that something is racist or sexist on the bases that its racist and sexist and that its "offending" some group of people.
These people think they speak for everyone without realizing that the only people who speak for them are themselves.
They fight causes that don't exist and are not big issues.
These people look to start fights about racism, sexism, ect.
They have no place in today's world
 

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It's suppose to be a term used for people who basically go out of their way to defend social justice. But it's become a term used to basically describe everything at this point.
if you do not mind me asking, why is it wrong to defend social justice? I agree that far left are assholes, but as far as I am aware, not all social justice people are far left extremists.
 

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so does that make me an sjw then? because I know some people who disagree with me from liberals and conservatives standpoint, I am generally moderate politically
Yes it does.

In truth, it's """"""""""supposed"""""""""" to be the left version of the alt right, where it's people who are super hard left to the point of being destructive, but after like a millisecond of use it just became something to describe everyone other than people in the ingroup, whichever that is. And yes, in gaming that goes triple.
 

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if you do not mind me asking, why is it wrong to defend social justice? I agree that far left are assholes, but as far as I am aware, not all social justice people are far left extremists.
There's no such thing as social justice. To imply social justice is to ignore the rights of individuals. sjw's want to compartmentalize people into various groups and base rights by the defining factors of those groups.
 

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They have no place in today's world[/QUOTE]
Yes it does.

In truth, it's """"""""""supposed"""""""""" to be the left version of the alt right, where it's people who are super hard left to the point of being destructive, but after like a millisecond of use it just became something to describe everyone other than people in the ingroup, whichever that is. And yes, in gaming that goes triple.

I guess it is similar to liberals and conservatives calling each other nazis
 

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if you do not mind me asking, why is it wrong to defend social justice? I agree that far left are assholes, but as far as I am aware, not all social justice people are far left extremists.
In theory actually going out of ones way to defend the rights of others shouldn't be viewed as a bad thing. Personally it's not their message that I see as the bigger problem, being that I am a rather outspoken Leftist myself. It's their approach that that is far too extreme and only making hostility toward their cause. It also doesn't help that the term is so grossly abused
 
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I guess it is similar to liberals and conservatives calling each other nazis
To an extent, you are probably right. My argument towards that (Which others are rightfully able to disagree with) is that I don't think these so called "nazis" exist. Okay yes, there are some out there, but i do believe its blown WAY out of proportion. And these "nazis," screw them! They suck and are terrible. With these "SJWs" i feel like most of these people (you may disagree) complain about things that are not an issue.
A "close to home" example would be the whole "women in video games" issue. I don't think that that is an issue, but people think that it's ruining children and what not.
 
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In theory actually going out of ones way to defend the rights of others shouldn't be viewed as a bad thing. Personally it's not their message that I see a problem, being that I am a rather outspoken Leftist myself. It's their approach that that is far too extreme and only making hostility toward their cause. It also doesn't help that the term is so grossly abused
yeah, I know what you mean. I got into argument with someone in college who was saying "you can't be a good guy and a conservative". I am not a conservative but I know a lot of nice conservatives so I argued with her about that and I defended conservatives.
 

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yeah, I know what you mean. I got into argument with someone in college who was saying "you can't be a good guy and a conservative". I am not a conservative but I know a lot of nice conservatives so I argued with her about that and I defended conservatives.
That's basically the biggest issue with them. They are the other side of coin when it comes to extremes
 
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There's no such thing as social justice. To imply social justice is to ignore the rights of individuals. sjw's want to compartmentalize people into various groups and base rights by the defining factors of those groups.
I'm not really interested in a big debate, but none of this makes sense, because it is going off the implication that we're already in an equal society and that everyone doesnt already compartmentalise people into groups and treat them differently based on that. Or that the intention isnt to allow individuals to be free to act how they like, no matter what group they are in.

I agree that "sjws" are pretty dumb but going completely into the other direction and saying social justice doesnt exist is a weird one.
 

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Oh gosh ok

So it depends on who you are/what side of the political spectrum you're on. It was (as I understand it) originally meant to refer to a very specific subset of far-Left people who would go so far into activism that they were essentially militant (read: would probs beat someone up if they were opposed in the street). These would be your bra-burners, soccer moms (the variety that advocate for "participation trophies")... having trouble coming up with other good examples, but you get the gist

Now, though, it's kind of devolved into a derogatory term that the Right uses as an all-encompassing insult whenever someone tries to suggest or implement any kind of Progressive policy
 

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