Hacking Can't load Wii games normally from USB or GC games from DVD

[Metoroid0]

Well you see, my wii worked fine, without problems...its also working now, everything is ok, except i deleted usb loader than reinstalled usb loader channel forvarder i think, but when i click start game it kicks me to system menu...and on disk channel discs wont show.
In game cube games when i put dvd and go to disc channel like i used to it loads normally, than after intendo it freezes....

what i did is i was trying to get project m to work and i got here:
https://smashboards.com/threads/project-m-on-a-pal-wii-updated.356936/

And after i did this particular thing it wasn't working..

i only managed to play games from DVD in usb loader, but not from USB...

My usb is fat32 formated and i copied wbfs files over.



I did syscheck, and here are the results:

 

[Cyan]

1. the forwarder.

You said you replaced the channel (full ?) with the forwarder channel.
The forwarder channel is only a program which "forward" to another program located on SD card or USB.
Be sure you have SD:/apps/usbloader_gx/boot.dol <--- this file is the "forwarded" program loaded by the channel. if you don't have that dol on SD or USB (any FAT or NTFS partition) then the channel will exit back to main menu as it couldn't find what it was looking for.


2. syscheck

what you followed is outdated (and bad)
installing cIOS rev20 ? very old. should not be installed at all, it can mess your other IOSes.
installing IOS236 is not needed anymore for any homebrew.

but your syscheck seems fine, which let me think you even messed with that tutorial. you didn't follow it correctly (that's a good and bad thing : good you didn't do it, bad you couldn't even follow written direction)

at least, the cIOS are good :
200-224 : old Hermes cIOS and not used anymore, no harm
236 : old patched IOS36 and not used anymore, no harm

249-250 : d2x v8 final, with correct base. good.

only your 248 is not good, but again, no harm as long as you don't use it.



I don't know if your IOS58 is the correct version. Sorry, I don't remember the good version you should use.

 

[Metoroid0]

i used xflac syscheck update, how can it be old?

Anyway, will softmoding again with NEWEST files (i want updated everything) fix the problem?
Also, about gamecube not loading from disc channel? Ill check now with latest usb loader and forwarder.... and ill report.

 

[Cyan]

a lot of users will tell you it's fine (it probably is), but I don't like batch install of wads packed from external programs. it can be misused (users merging existing folders with existing and outdated/wrong version's wad files, etc.)
I prefer user's decision than letting a program decide what you should do. think, know why, etc.
or "just use modmii" like many users. it should work too.

you probably don't need to replace your IOSes, no need to fix or replace them if they are good.

 

[Metoroid0]

I see...so everything will work fine all games, channels etc.... I just need to do what now? what you recomend?

Also can you please provide me with proper channel loader forwarder and sd loader files, please? so i can try that first..i must start from somewhere right.

Also i now get how forwarders work. thanks!

 

[Cyan]

yeah, that's what I wanted to do, provide the correct forwarder version.
because, maybe you followed an old tutorial, or found an old link.

get this one :
USBLoaderGX forwarder 5.1 for Wii (not vWii)
put it in the SD:/wad/ folder

get this wad manager :
http://www.hacksden.com/showthread.php/7241-YAWMM-DE-English-Translation/
put it in SD:/apps/YAWMM/

Get the loader : (not the latest, nintendont is probably not working with this version*)
https://sourceforge.net/projects/usbloadergx/files/latest/download
extract to your SD card.

launch the manager, select wad install, select the wad from the SD card (install only the forwarder)
now you have the correct forwarder channel, and the dol located on your SD card.



* Greywolf released a new version of the loader, compatible with recent nintendont releases.
I didn't have time to update the loader officially to support it.

 

[Metoroid0]

Actually, do i need these two from this site?

yeah, that's what I wanted to do, provide the correct forwarder version.
because, maybe you followed an old tutorial, or found an old link.

get this one :
USBLoaderGX forwarder 5.1 for Wii (not vWii)
put it in the SD:/wad/ folder

get this wad manager :
http://www.hacksden.com/showthread.php/7241-YAWMM-DE-English-Translation/
put it in SD:/apps/YAWMM/

Get the loader : (not the latest, nintendont is probably not working with this version*)
https://sourceforge.net/projects/usbloadergx/files/latest/download
extract to your SD card.

launch the manager, select wad install, select the wad from the SD card (install only the forwarder)
now you have the correct forwarder channel, and the dol located on your SD card.



* Greywolf released a new version of the loader, compatible with recent nintendont releases.
I didn't have time to update the loader officially to support it.

And what about Files on SD of usb loader you said i must have, what files should i use?

Also what is AHBPROT

 

[Cyan]

well, you wanted the latest forwarder : first link. it's a wad.
You need a good wad manager to install the forwarder, not an outdated forwarder which require old IOS236. so I gave you link to best wad manager available.
like said, the forwarder need the program to "forward to" on the SD card, and it's the 3rd link. (the actual USBLoaderGX program)

so, yes, you need all 3 files.
but like I said, the 3rd link is not the latest release.


AHBPROT is something used by new homebrew, dropping the need to use IOS236. (fast explanation)

if you want the good explanation : http://www.hacksden.com/entry.php/27-A-basic-explanation-of-AHBPROT-and-MEMPROT

 

[GreyWolf]

The only thing missing in r1262 as far as Nintendont goes is are settings for skipping the GC BIOS and using the rumble in the Wii remote.

GerbilSoft altered those settings shortly after they were added to default to the loader's original behavior (use BIOS file if it's exists/no remote rumble) so it should work fine. You just won't be able to change those settings.

 

[Metoroid0]

The only thing missing in r1262 as far as Nintendont goes is are settings for skipping the GC BIOS and using the rumble in the Wii remote.

GerbilSoft altered those settings shortly after they were added to default to the loader's original behavior (use BIOS file if it's exists/no remote rumble) so it should work fine. You just won't be able to change those settings.

Sorry i didnt understood...what rumble?

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well, you wanted the latest forwarder : first link. it's a wad.
You need a good wad manager to install the forwarder, not an outdated forwarder which require old IOS236. so I gave you link to best wad manager available.
like said, the forwarder need the program to "forward to" on the SD card, and it's the 3rd link. (the actual USBLoaderGX program)

so, yes, you need all 3 files.
but like I said, the 3rd link is not the latest release.


AHBPROT is something used by new homebrew, dropping the need to use IOS236. (fast explanation)

if you want the good explanation : http://www.hacksden.com/entry.php/27-A-basic-explanation-of-AHBPROT-and-MEMPROT

Oh, god..sorry i didnt saw 3rd link at all strange!

 

[Metoroid0]

OK, usb loader looks good, but its shows some corruption on game select..might be do to usb stick.... ill format it to WBFS and try again to transfer some.

About ios

2. syscheck

what you followed is outdated (and bad)
installing cIOS rev20 ? very old. should not be installed at all, it can mess your other IOSes.
installing IOS236 is not needed anymore for any homebrew.

but your syscheck seems fine, which let me think you even messed with that tutorial. you didn't follow it correctly (that's a good and bad thing : good you didn't do it, bad you couldn't even follow written direction)

at least, the cIOS are good :
200-224 : old Hermes cIOS and not used anymore, no harm
236 : old patched IOS36 and not used anymore, no harm

249-250 : d2x v8 final, with correct base. good.

only your 248 is not good, but again, no harm as long as you don't use it.



I don't know if your IOS58 is the correct version. Sorry, I don't remember the good version you should use.

How do i update all those?

 

[Metoroid0]

Also, how can i run GC games again from disk channel, could but now i cant seem to... :/

 

[GreyWolf]

If you can't run retail discs from the disc channel you may have installed an modified MIOS that blocks it.

 

[Metoroid0]

If you can't run retail discs from the disc channel you may have installed an modified MIOS that blocks it.

I installed this: "

RVL-cmios-v4_WiiGator_GCBL_v0.2.wad"

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I installed this: "

RVL-cmios-v4_WiiGator_GCBL_v0.2.wad"

I can play GC games now, but there are certain games that wont work that worked..i mean one for now, metroid prime, but it does work from multy game disc i made.
Also nintendont is no longer working, it freezes ag select a game from multy game disc...all in all it behaves strange, before it worked flawlesly...

 

[Cyan]

if you want to play retail disc from the disc channel, you need to restore MIOS v10
you can get it on modmii, or on different modding tools, or even extract it from a Wii game disc (with WiiXplorer)

 

[Metoroid0]

if you want to play retail disc from the disc channel, you need to restore MIOS v10
you can get it on modmii, or on different modding tools, or even extract it from a Wii game disc (with WiiXplorer)

Are retail discs original discs?

 

[Cyan]

yes, sorry if it was hard to understand. it's the habit to use that word.
retail = sold, from a retailer (a shop) = an original bought game.

 

[Metoroid0]

yes, sorry if it was hard to understand. it's the habit to use that word.
retail = sold, from a retailer (a shop) = an original bought game.

oh that...well i only have wii sports...

 

[Cyan]

ah, you talk about wii game, so it's probably for MIOS extraction.
Wii sport is too old to get MIOS v10

you can get MIOS v10 on modmii, or by launching WiiGator cMIOS installer again and select to uninstall cMIOS or reinstall the clean MIOS.