Gaming Nintendo likes money and the marketplace is dumb enough to give it to them

[BullyWiiPlaza]

Agreed with the OP, Nintendo just made this a cash grab and screwed over their Wii U community by releasing a half-assed Mario Kart game with crappy battle mode and fire hopping exploit many people were upset about. These things should've been added/fixed in the original Wii U version, not made into a new game on the Switch. They waited 3 years till the next console generation to actually do this, what a joke. Usually, there is a new Mario Kart every generation but not this time, apparently. Nintendo getting lazier, more disrespectful towards their fans and greedier.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

Agreed with the OP, Nintendo just made this a cash grab and screwed over their Wii U community by releasing a half-assed Mario Kart game with crappy battle mode and fire hopping exploit many people were upset about. These things should've been added/fixed in the original Wii U version, not made into a new game on the Switch. They waited 3 years till the next console generation to actually do this, what a joke. Usually, there is a new Mario Kart every generation but not this time, apparently. Nintendo getting lazier, more disrespectful towards their fans and greedier.

As a racing kart game, Mario Kart 8 was pretty much perfect and I would dare to say I'd rather go with 1 item than that stinking Boo always stealing the items when you least expect it. PLUS, on the WiiU version you could actually see the list of items per racers whereas on the Switch version this doesn't exist.

Nintendo made Mario Kart 8 better on the Switch but also made it somewhat worse by these minor removals that added so much to the experience.

 

[Deleted User]

Mario Kart 8 was really the only reason I wanted a Wii U.
I mean, I also kinda wanted Wii Fit U, but it's Wii Fit U. That's not a game that's worth buying a console specifically for.

 

[deinonychus71]

As a racing kart game, Mario Kart 8 was pretty much perfect and I would dare to say I'd rather go with 1 item than that stinking Boo always stealing the items when you least expect it. PLUS, on the WiiU version you could actually see the list of items per racers whereas on the Switch version this doesn't exist.

Nintendo made Mario Kart 8 better on the Switch but also made it somewhat worse by these minor removals that added so much to the experience.

That's out of topic but the one big thing that annoys me with the switch version is that the assisted driving is turned on by default, and you can easily turn it back on by mistake...

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

That's out of topic but the one big thing that annoys me with the switch version is that the assisted driving is turned on by default, and you can easily turn it back on by mistake...

True. I didn't notice that until I saw that the kart wouldn't get off track, the worst part is when you realise it's on and you're playing online.

 

[jt_1258]

well, I'm a bit late, I probably already commented on this, and somebody likely already said this, but, the switch is portable, more popular then wii u, and looks like it'll definitely out sell the wii u's lifetime sales...in it's first at that maybe, which is likely why its selling better, I did want a wii u but the switch came around and stole my money before I could get a wii u
mk8d since I got it last sunday has been awesome on the go

 

[Spider_Man]

I looked it up and it does seem that way. However Nintendo pulled it off infinitely better.

Also, the reason Nintendo doesn't have a lot of 3rd party support is because almost all 3rd party goes to "more powerful" games. Most of them are shit.

Zelda, Mario Kart, and Mario all get released on every console. There is no arguing with that. But each one's gameplay is different. You couldn't accurately compare Zelda 1 to Zelda 2, or Zelda OoT to Zelda MM. Mario get's repetitive, but they seem to have left the classic 2D mario series alone since NSMBU. Also, you failed to mention Metroid Prime. Which was released on the Gamecube and the Wii. Are you saying that because you liked Metroid that it bypasses the port shaming?

Don't harass others opinions without being able to accept people harassing you.

Also find it funny that you happened to skip over the most important post in the entire thread.

i left out metroid because it didnt come to the wii u..... very little else did.

and i can bet you any money nintendo will also release a NSMB type game.

i dont mind people having a different opinion, but the word opnion here falls deaf on the fans, they refuse to accept negativity, if they love playing the same games every time nintendo release a new system then fair enough, but dont contradict the whole opinion when people state their reasons for not loving them..... if you dont love them and have reasons why then dont cry over it.... fans trying to claim nintendo dont release the same stuff and isnt mainly a console for kids is just pointless because its clear that it is.

if nintendo stopped focusing on cheap to produce consoles and actually focused on making something new, then it would increase the chance of it getting better third party support..... and there is nothing stopping them for lets say releasing a system to beat the ps4/xbx1 and still offer gimmick controllers...... the only people to blame for this is nintendo and all nintendo care about is releasing its same old games.

 

[deinonychus71]

i dont mind people having a different opinion, but the word opnion here falls deaf on the fans, they refuse to accept negativity.

People didn't jump on you simply because you don't like some games. However they dislike hypocrisy.

You keep trying to disguise a judgement into an opinion, please stop. Just reading the beginning and the end of the first paragraph is enough to reveal the fraud. You aren't trying to give an opinion about a series of game, you are simply telling people that their consuming habits are wrong. You DO mind people having a different opinion.

if you dont love them and have reasons why then dont cry over it.... fans trying to claim nintendo dont release the same stuff and isnt mainly a console for kids is just pointless because its clear that it is.

Super Mario Bros is a platformer. Super Mario Bros 2 is platformer. Duh. What exactly is wrong with that? Are all platformers the same game?
You know what you could also say if you were honest?
Call of Duty is a FPS about war, Call of Duty 2 is a FPS about war.... Call of Duty Infinity is a FPS about war.
Isn't that crazy? Sequels of the same IP being based on the same concept? Hey and that's not from Nintendo!
YOU personally having a problem with Nintendo games is your right but that doesn't mean everyone is wrong and deaf for enjoying them. What makes it worse is that you're describing a banality of the video game industry but seems to only see the light when it comes to Nintendo. Wake up, they all do it.
For me, Uncharted 1, 2, 3, 4 (or CoD series) are exactly the same boring game. For you it's Mario. Cool story bro. Now I'm not gonna go bother Uncharted fans and tell them how much Naughty Dog is screwing them, because indeed I don't care about their opinion on the matter. Why do you care so much about players playing Nintendo games?

a console for kids

Are there adults playing the Switch? Yes. Therefore it's not a console for kids. Are there games accessible for kids? Yes. Doesn't mean they're only meant for kids. It simply means all audiences. Seriously, nobody care. Pokemon was always considered to be a game for kids and you see a lot of adults playing it. If you don't see the logic, remember how many people were playing Pokemon Go. It doesn't need blood everywhere for an adult to enjoy it.
That's again your right to not like what you call kids games, but again does not entitle everyone to like the same, not is it an argument against or for anything.

if nintendo stopped focusing on cheap to produce consoles and actually focused on making something new, then it would increase the chance of it getting better third party support..... and there is nothing stopping them for lets say releasing a system to beat the ps4/xbx1 and still offer gimmick controllers...... the only people to blame for this is nintendo and all nintendo care about is releasing its same old games.

That legend again.

YOU personally want a top notch console with the best technologies? Cool. I think you're better off with a PC if you want power, plus you'll have more games. I could also say that more teraflops doesn't mean "new", and that it's hilarious that you talk about "making something new" while mentioning the ps4/xbox, two consoles that have been using the same controllers, gameplay and commercial strategies for a decade.
But you know what? That's cool if you have fun with them. That's what they're made for. I have a ps4 and have fun with it. And i have a switch for different reasons that please me and I Have fun with it too.

The Switch has many strengths, processing power is not one of them but that's not what everyone is after. I personally love the fun I get out of games I can play irl with friends on the same TV (yeah... less and less a thing with the two power-boner consoles), and I couldnt care less if it's another Mario Kart, on the contrary I love the concept and I love being able to take it with me anywhere. It does pull some bullshit too, and some of them I'm still salty about, but no more than any others. I still remember Sony pulling out their super HDR 4k graphic speech while selling a PS VR Box that wasn't HDR pass-through, but that's another story.
Just accept the fact that people aren't all looking for power. It's really not that hard.

Get it? It's called a difference of opinion, we don't agree on the same things cause we are not attracted by the same experiences. And that's alright.
What is NOT alright is when you start your bullshit that people can't see the light, your light. You're falling into the exact same traps that you criticize people for, just with other companies. Worse, you are completely buying the more power = better game bullshit. Oh sweet irony.

 

[Risingdawn]

i left out metroid because it didnt come to the wii u..... very little else did.

and i can bet you any money nintendo will also release a NSMB type game.

i dont mind people having a different opinion, but the word opnion here falls deaf on the fans, they refuse to accept negativity, if they love playing the same games every time nintendo release a new system then fair enough, but dont contradict the whole opinion when people state their reasons for not loving them..... if you dont love them and have reasons why then dont cry over it.... fans trying to claim nintendo dont release the same stuff and isnt mainly a console for kids is just pointless because its clear that it is.

if nintendo stopped focusing on cheap to produce consoles and actually focused on making something new, then it would increase the chance of it getting better third party support..... and there is nothing stopping them for lets say releasing a system to beat the ps4/xbx1 and still offer gimmick controllers...... the only people to blame for this is nintendo and all nintendo care about is releasing its same old games.

Why shouldn't someone focus a product specifically for children, why shouldn't someone focus a product specifically for a family environment.

Why should a company not target a product for a target market, why should a company compete with rivals instead of finding an angle that allows it to coexist rather than compete.

I'm not saying your opinion is wrong, Nintendo offer nothing of worth to yourself and nothing you are interested in and so your opinion is based upon what you get from Nintendo products, in this case very little.

However there are also those who's opinion differs from yours. There are those that enjoy Mario Kart iterations over Forza iterations, Mario Bros over COD, Zelda over Final Fantasy, Smash bros over Street Fighter.

There are those that enjoy 4 player couch co-op over 16 player online, those that enjoy Party games over competitive games, those that enjoy portable gaming over large screen room gaming.

Remember Nintendo is a Japanese company that specifically target the Japanese market. I find a whole bunch of Japanese pass times hobbies and crazes quite incomprehensible but that doesn't mean simply because I don't enjoy them or see any worth or value in them that I am right by default and they are wrong.

This is because I can accept that in this world there are people other than myself with opinions and likes and hobbies that do not appeal to myself but are every bit as valid.

People here do not take offense at the fact you do not like Nintendo or their products. What they do take offense at though is your continued invalidation of the things that they themselves do enjoy or find worth in and their personal opinions which are just as valid as yours.

Insisting repeatedly that something is wrong because you don't like it, that something is rubbish because you don't enjoy it or that others are incorrect because they disagree with yourself does not make you an enlightened consumer on a mission to educate the less intelligent masses, it makes you self centered, entitled and ignorant.

Having an opinion is fine, dismissing and ridiculing others for differing from yours isn't. You dislike Nintendo products for your own reasons and those reasons are correct, because that is an opinion driven by your own needs, that does not mean that those that do enjoy Nintendo's products are incorrect and should be dismissed, it simply means that people are different and want different things.

I don't expect you to accept this opinion, I don't expect you to validate it anyway or acknowledge it from another's point of view, I expect you will come back with a load of reasons why, specifically "I am wrong" and "you are right" even though there is no wrong or right, there are simply points of view and differences of opinion.

 

[MK73DS]

Sure, if you didn't own a Wii U then this is certainly worth the money

You got your answer

 

[tbb043]

If you don't think a port is worth the price, DON'T BUY IT. It's not worth acting like there's some conspiracy at nintendo to steal your wallet.

 

[DS1]

You got your answer

Yeah, I thought there was something interesting going on here on account of all the responses, but if he's asking why the Switch release of a WiiU game costs the same amount of money, that should be obvious.

Also, since TC clearly doesn't know, Nintendo games don't become devalued, ever. They go out of print, but never lose value. So even if they were to reprint a game that was 5 years old, it wouldn't be any cheaper. This is one of the main reasons I haven't bought a Nintendo console since the N64. Nintendo's games are great, but if you wait a year or two, every game for every other system will be about $10-15.

 

[Eddypikachu]

To be fair mario kart 8 was probably an expensive game to make and it didnt sell that well because of the low user base of the wiiu selling a meager 8 million units compared to the 23 million and 37 million units sold of the DS, and Wii games respectively. Nintendo is first and foremost a business like any other game company and they're just trying to get the profits they shouldve seen if the wii u wasnt such a failure so theyre rereleasing this game on a console that looks to be much more successful than the wii u to get their moneys worth, I honestly dont see that much of a problem over this tbh

 

[Spider_Man]

To be fair mario kart 8 was probably an expensive game to make and it didnt sell that well because of the low user base of the wiiu selling a meager 8 million units compared to the 23 million and 37 million units sold of the DS, and Wii games respectively. Nintendo is first and foremost a business like any other game company and they're just trying to get the profits they shouldve seen if the wii u wasnt such a failure so theyre rereleasing this game on a console that looks to be much more successful than the wii u to get their moneys worth, I honestly dont see that much of a problem over this tbh

i do love nintendo fans will slate third parties porting its titles to maximise as much money as they can from its games.

yet claim nintendo release the best first parties, then defend them when they cant be bothered to make new games and port its last consoles games to its new console.

just because its last system failed for basically being the last gen revamped that doesnt call for nintendo to support it less by porting/recycling its old games.

it annoys me on the ps4/xbx1 how many last gen titles are being ported, i dont buy a new console to play old games, especially when i already own it on the ps3/360.

i had no interest in the wii u for the reason it failed (i even said it would fail before it launched) so there is even less appeal for the switch when its just porting wii u games.

i dont see anything that would make anyone (other than a fan) think wow i must buy this new system..... or...... save money and buy a wii u and play the same game because there is little difference in them.

as for arms, well im sure theres a shed load of games similar to it that was on the wii you can play on the wii u.

i am glad i didnt buy the switch, that it was a gift because arms has no appeal and i know the fans hate people who dont love nintendo but there is nothing in the line up this year or next that is coming to the switch and i guess thats highly likely why its sales are starting to drop and sony have taken the #1 spot again with its old ps4 console.

i would love to see what impact ms will have when it releases its xbx1x

 

[Eddypikachu]

i do love nintendo fans will slate third parties porting its titles to maximise as much money as they can from its games.

yet claim nintendo release the best first parties, then defend them when they cant be bothered to make new games and port its last consoles games to its new console.

just because its last system failed for basically being the last gen revamped that doesnt call for nintendo to support it less by porting/recycling its old games.

it annoys me on the ps4/xbx1 how many last gen titles are being ported, i dont buy a new console to play old games, especially when i already own it on the ps3/360.

i had no interest in the wii u for the reason it failed (i even said it would fail before it launched) so there is even less appeal for the switch when its just porting wii u games.

i dont see anything that would make anyone (other than a fan) think wow i must buy this new system..... or...... save money and buy a wii u and play the same game because there is little difference in them.

as for arms, well im sure theres a shed load of games similar to it that was on the wii you can play on the wii u.

i am glad i didnt buy the switch, that it was a gift because arms has no appeal and i know the fans hate people who dont love nintendo but there is nothing in the line up this year or next that is coming to the switch and i guess thats highly likely why its sales are starting to drop and sony have taken the #1 spot again with its old ps4 console.

i would love to see what impact ms will have when it releases its xbx1x

uuhhhhh.... okay??? I don't get why people dont understand that not every single game is tailored for you specifically, if youre not interested in mk8 deluxe then guess what this game wasnt meant for you it was most likely tailored for people who missed out on the wii u version and for people who would like to have it on the go. Theres nothing bad about disliking nintendo games, but stop trying to act like you're above everyone else just because you dont like them.

 

[KevinLSX]

Its portable mario kart 8. That reason right there is why it may have sold so much

 

[Spider_Man]

uuhhhhh.... okay??? I don't get why people dont understand that not every single game is tailored for you specifically, if youre not interested in mk8 deluxe then guess what this game wasnt meant for you it was most likely tailored for people who missed out on the wii u version and for people who would like to have it on the go. Theres nothing bad about disliking nintendo games, but stop trying to act like you're above everyone else just because you dont like them.

i dont act like i am above anyone.

just point out some things the fanboys say, then when it comes to nintendo they contradict.

their opinions they use when quoting someone who doesnt share the same as them, enforcing their opinion and dictating the ones who dont share it should accept theirs.

nintendo fans are funny folk, i remember when they were all about graphics, then its not, then it was and now its not..... its about fun.... well i dont see any folk playing ps4/xbx1 that dont enjoy playing the new games or having fun.

dont get me wrong, the odd gimmick game here or there for that quick party fun you have with the family but when it comes to it, this is the majority of all nintendo systems have, nothing that you feel WOW i really have to play this game again, when its gimmicks controller fad dies down the game is like MEH!.

 

[Risingdawn]

their opinions they use when quoting someone who doesnt share the same as them, enforcing their opinion and dictating the ones who dont share it should accept theirs.

Oh sweet irony...

 

[Deleted User]

first off, the market place isn't being dumb. Why go buy a dieing console and a game that is still 60 bucks on that dead console. When you can buy a new console, that is likely to be supported AND have features the other system doesn't AND since that game was on obscure console it was wise to port it over. Why are complaining about this? Its like getting angry that sega ported sonic adventure from their dead dreamcast to the gamecube. LIKE SERIOUSLY, grow up.

 

[Spider_Man]

Oh sweet irony...

in saying that is when the flood gates of fans come quoting my posts which takes it out of hand because they always quote some crap in some shape or form to dirrive it off topic to insist their opinion...... or

could leave it be as one is entitled to an opinion, if they dont like it then dont quote it.

i used to be a nintendo fan, so i can say why (lets say) i have turned to the dark side.

i can look at my gaming room and see how each new nintendo console comes out it has less and less games.

my switch has not been touched since completing zelda and i dont get what crack people are taking but it falls short form this hype its been given..... ill dust off my majoras mask cart and enjoy a proper open world/side quest/event filled zelda game.

and that there..... i have never played a zelda game since that beats majoras mask and that was what 17 years ago.