Screw Batman, (the Green) Arrow is WAY Better!

[Erion]

I think your thread name is misleading, most of the batmans including current one are crap(peoples batman) the only real Batman is Christopher Nolans Dark Knight.

Btw arrow is good. There is going to be a crossover between Flash,Legends of tomorrow and Arrow this month.
looking forward to that.

 

[LightyKD]

OK. I'm thinking that we turn this thread into GBATemp's official DCTVU thread or Arrowverse as known by other people. I'm all caught up with Arrow, Legends of Tomorrow and Supergirl. I'm watching Flash with the Mrs and we have two more episodes to go in the first season. Flash reminds us a lot of Fringe. Legends has a Power Rangers vibe for me. Just like Power Rangers, Legends is a jack of many trades, master of none. That's not a bad thing because it allows for a lot of variety. Additionally, Legends has some pretty damn good story telling and has exceeded my expectations. I used to think that it was just some DC cash in on the Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy hype of recent years. Side note and SPOILER

Spoiler

I cried during Mick and Leonard's bar scene after Leonard died saving the team and Mick went back to 2013 to see him one last time. Balled my eyes out.

-If I ever cry to a show I usually consider it to be a damned good one. It means that the characters were so good that I actually cared about them. I think a lot of writers forget that the audience needs to feel connected to the characters they present to us.

As for Arrow, I know that many of you did not like seasons 3 and 4. I actually didn't mind the mysticism in season 3. It made sense to wrap up the League of Assassins story. As for Season 4, It was doable but could have been a little less magic focused. BTW I'm a "Olicity" fan so I didn't mind the relationship drama. My notes on Flash, OMG I love this show! I dont even think this first season had any filler episodes. Everything feels spot on and connected. Every episode matters and I love shows like that. My wife is pleasantly surprised that the first season is wrapping up in the fast pace that it's going. Apparently she no longer wants to watch the show right before bedtime because each episode gets her hype for the next. -Supergirl... oh Supergirl I can't wait for it to return. Ironic how I only wanted to see the first episode for shits and giggles and now I'm in love with the show. Maybe it's Melissa Benoist's acting as Kara. I swear Kara is total Dreamgirl, waifu material and yes, the Mrs always teases me about that! Story wise, so far this second season has been pretty good. I wont make any major judgments until the end of this season.

Final notes on Legends. I blew through the first season and the few episodes of season 2. Legends feels like Arrow and Flash had a threesome with Star Trek. Even more interesting, I'm enjoying how the main villains of this season are basically ex Flash and Arrow baddies. To me I sum up the Arrowverse like this:

- Arrow is the foundation
- Flash is the glue that keeps everyone together
- Legends is a history lesson on the entire Arrowverse
- Supergirl for now is the "what if" story. I.E. What if Earth was dealing with aliens more than Meta-humans

OK, bed time again. I'm done tip typing away. Anyone, feel free to chime in!

 

[Armadillo]

BTW I'm a "Olicity" fan so I didn't mind the relationship drama.

I didn't really think the 1st season of legends was too good. It was ok, decent enough as background tv, but just too much dumb stuff

Spoiler

Vandal savage constantly getting away. It just dragged on and on and on. Should not have been so many direct confrontations with him. Always damn, he just got away/someone interfered. In one episode (can't remember which), he even gets his throat slit, just to give it the, I'll come back, has to be killed by kendra with the dagger. FFS just take his lifeless body to the ship, chain him up, have kendra kill him properly once he comes back to life. Yeah, it's a tv show, dumb shit happens, but it was constant with savage. Again and again shit like that happened and he just got away. Just stop writing him in so much and just have him in a few episodes/the final. Thankfully season 2 is a lot better.

 

[LightyKD]

I didn't really think the 1st season of legends was too good. It was ok, decent enough as background tv, but just too much dumb stuff

Spoiler

Vandal savage constantly getting away. It just dragged on and on and on. Should not have been so many direct confrontations with him. Always damn, he just got away/someone interfered. In one episode (can't remember which), he even gets his throat slit, just to give it the, I'll come back, has to be killed by kendra with the dagger. FFS just take his lifeless body to the ship, chain him up, have kendra kill him properly once he comes back to life. Yeah, it's a tv show, dumb shit happens, but it was constant with savage. Again and again shit like that happened and he just got away. Just stop writing him in so much and just have him in a few episodes/the final. Thankfully season 2 is a lot better.

What stuff did you not like?

 

[Armadillo]

What stuff did you not like?

Mostly the stuff in the spoilers. Legends felt like the story was not moving on. Just a constant, vandal savage is here, legends go there, fail to kill him, repeat. It just felt like the show was spinning it's wheels until the last few episodes

 

[LightyKD]

Mostly the stuff in the spoilers. Legends felt like the story was not moving on. Just a constant, vandal savage is here, legends go there, fail to kill him, repeat. It just felt like the show was spinning it's wheels until the last few episodes

I can see your point. I was kinda pissed at most of the future Earth stuff. Then again I usually get mad at SciFi shows that depict humanity as not doing much of anything decent by the time the 22nd century hits. Vandal overall felt more annoying than menacing. It was as if he had no master plan. "-OK, so you want to rule the world, then what?!" Sometimes you're lucky to get the "then what" but in Vandal's case, the man had nothing. My biggest pet peeve with Legends was all the "who does Hawkgirl love" crap. Dont get me wrong, Hawkgirl is a damn hottie but I could have used a lot less about her love life and maybe some more exposition on her past.

 

[Temptress Cerise]

I can see your point. I was kinda pissed at most of the future Earth stuff. Then again I usually get mad at SciFi shows that depict humanity as not doing much of anything decent by the time the 22nd century hits. Vandal overall felt more annoying than menacing. It was as if he had no master plan. "-OK, so you want to rule the world, then what?!" Sometimes you're lucky to get the "then what" but in Vandal's case, the man had nothing. My biggest pet peeve with Legends was all the "who does Hawkgirl love" crap. Dont get me wrong, Hawkgirl is a damn hottie but I could have used a lot less about her love life and maybe some more exposition on her past.

She used to be a barista.

 

[LightyKD]

She used to be a barista.

LMAO We all know that. She made it a point to say that multiple times