Homebrew How do I protect my installed CIAS from being deleted, and my NNID from being banned?

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The CIAS are of games that can otherwise only be obtained through a Japanese eshop, and I don't plan to take them online.
 

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Nintendo can't legally edit your files without you allowing them so they can't remove your cia and nobody has been banned for using .cia out of region as long as you don't play online
 

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The CIAS are of games that can otherwise only be obtained through a Japanese eshop, and I don't plan to take them online.
I haven't had any problems with installed CIA's, so you are likely good on that front.
With the banning, using the freeShop will not get you banned, but going online on a game before it's release will almost guarantee you a ban. If you do get banned, backup any saves you have before you unban yourself.
 

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Nintendo can't legally edit your files without you allowing them so they can't remove your cia and nobody has been banned for using .cia out of region as long as you don't play online
So how do I deny them from editing the files?


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So how do I deny them from editing the files?


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They won't, they can't legally mess with your files.

Nintendo will not ban you for using CIAs and will really only ban you if you are completely stupid. Basically if you go online with a yet to be released game or going online with a non-private header (something that won't happen with a CIA.)
 
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So how do I deny them from editing the files?


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They're already denied dude.

They won't, they can't legally mess with your files.

Nintendo will not ban you for using CIAs and will really only ban you if you are completely stupid. Basically if you go online with a game with an out of region game or before a game is released or go online with a non-private header (something that won't happen with a CIA.)
I don't believe anyone has been banned for going online with a out of region game actually. If that was true then we'd have a ban wave on hand for Monster Hunter Cross.
 

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They're already denied dude.


I don't believe anyone has been banned for going online with a out of region game actually. If that was true then we'd have a ban wave on hand for Monster Hunter Cross.
You know, I actually went and looked it up. And you know what I found? A lot of people asking and people saying there's a chance, but no one actually reporting a ban related to playing out of region CIAs.
I'll omit that from my warning until I until I actually find a case and or a case is reported.
 
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How to protect install cia from being deleted?

  • Umm pin lock your system, or parental lock from other people?
  • Be careful, don't delete if you don't want to, take care of the sd card, prevent corruptions of data.

How do i protect my nnid from being banned?

  • Use common sense (If you don't understand, keep reading)
  • DO NOT PLAY ONLINE GAMES BEFORE RELEASE DATE
  • going online with a non-private header (something that won't happen with a CIA.)
    Only required if using flashcart from what i understand.
  • DO NOT CHEAT AND THEN PLAY ONLINE MAKING YOURSELF LOOK OBVIOUS (You know, like editing pokemon to unrealistic stats?)
  • DO NOT CALL NINTENDO FOR ANY SUPPORT (i may be wrong with this statement but in my opinion, this should be known that Nintendo will not provide support for unauthroized modifications to your system, the sooner they find out the less options you have.)
I am not sure if there was any comments about rom hacks being played online results in ban but, still common sense.:unsure:
 

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Add in "CIAs that have bene made from a cart" (less we need to repeat the Leaked copies of SuMo and we got picked off so easily because of invalid version #. ) CIAs installed thru freeshop dont carry this Risk as they come from nintendy's own Servers,
 

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Add in "CIAs that have bene made from a cart" (less we need to repeat the Leaked copies of SuMo and we got picked off so easily because of invalid version #. ) CIAs installed thru freeshop dont carry this Risk as they come from nintendy's own Servers,
Well this almost makes cart dumpers seem useless now, after the SuMo ban waves...
 

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Add in "CIAs that have bene made from a cart" (less we need to repeat the Leaked copies of SuMo and we got picked off so easily because of invalid version #. ) CIAs installed thru freeshop dont carry this Risk as they come from nintendo's own Servers,
It's never been a risk before and I don't think it poses much of one now. What made SuMo dangerous were the hoards impatient people who wanted to play the newest game on the console online no less days before release. I'd agree with you if it was any other situation but at this point tacking that on there would be useless.
 

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How to protect install cia from being deleted?

  • Umm pin lock your system, or parental lock from other people?
  • Be careful, don't delete if you don't want to, take care of the sd card, prevent corruptions of data.

How do i protect my nnid from being banned?

  • Use common sense (If you don't understand, keep reading)
  • DO NOT PLAY ONLINE GAMES BEFORE RELEASE DATE
  • Only required if using flashcart from what i understand.
  • DO NOT CHEAT AND THEN PLAY ONLINE MAKING YOURSELF LOOK OBVIOUS (You know, like editing pokemon to unrealistic stats?)
  • DO NOT CALL NINTENDO FOR ANY SUPPORT (i may be wrong with this statement but in my opinion, this should be known that Nintendo will not provide support for unauthroized modifications to your system, the sooner they find out the less options you have.)
I am not sure if there was any comments about rom hacks being played online results in ban but, still common sense.:unsure:
The last is untrue. I know people with A9LH that breack theyr 3DS (screen and hadware stuff, you know) and they didn't have any problem with them. They could know if you have A9LH only seeing the FIRM0 xD.

In other hand, for the OP, if you are talking about DLC and themes installed as cia, you cannot avoid them to be deleted if you enter to the eshop. You can install your themes CHMM2 so eshop wont erase them, but nothing with DLC. You won't be banned even if they delete them, so don't worry.
 

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Add in "CIAs that have bene made from a cart" (less we need to repeat the Leaked copies of SuMo and we got picked off so easily because of invalid version #. ) CIAs installed thru freeshop dont carry this Risk as they come from nintendy's own Servers,
The CIA version didn't make a difference because people with legit copies got banned too for playing online early. They just carpet banned everyone who went online early.
 
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The CIA version didn't make a difference because people with legit copies got banned too for playing online early. They just carpet banned everyone who went online early.
Well, they can diference between a cia and a cartidge copy (with the header) and they did SUMO so they would know if yours is an eshop copy or a dump from a cartridge (second ones had version 1.0, but eshop version had other versions, one for Sun and other for moon. If you acces with a CIA that's 1.0, then it sure is an ilegal copy).
 

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Well, they can diference between a cia and a cartidge copy (with the header) and they did SUMO so they would know if yours is an eshop copy or a dump from a cartridge (second ones had version 1.0, but eshop version had other versions, one for Sun and other for moon. If you acces with a CIA that's 1.0, then it sure is an ilegal copy).
They still banned people who used copies they received early. It had nothing to do with the version or them checking if it was a CIA or not.
 

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They still banned people who used copies they received early. It had nothing to do with the version or them checking if it was a CIA or not.
Yes, they did, but I didn't said they don't. I'm only pointing that they could ban you if you want if you install a dumped version online. And afaik, they do.
 
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Yes, they did, but I didn't said they don't. I'm only pointing that they could ban you if you want if you install a dumped version online. And afaik, they do.
I misunderstood your last post. You're right they would be able to tell pretty easily if they looked into it.
 
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this one is tricky but i did write a guide on it, i post it here:

How to stop nintendo from deleting your installed cias - fool proof - works (december 2016)----

method 1:
don't hand your ds to a nintendo employee.
method 2:
try not to mail your ds to nintendo with a letter saying that it has the cias on it.
 

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