Homebrew Running Wii Homebrew .elfs on Wii U Homebrew Launcher?

[Biovirulent]

Is this possible?
A lot of wii homebrew is in .dol format, but even the .elfs don't work. I read that it has to be compatible with the launcher, how would I go about doing that?
I myself don't know coding or compiling, so a more simple explanation would be helpful..


Also, "Why not just use the vWii to run them?"

Well, that's a good question.

I don't have a Wiimote.

 

[QuarkTheAwesome]

Is this possible?
A lot of wii homebrew is in .dol format, but even the .elfs don't work. I read that it has to be compatible with the launcher, how would I go about doing that?
I myself don't know coding or compiling, so a more simple explanation would be helpful..


Also, "Why not just use the vWii to run them?"

Well, that's a good question.

I don't have a Wiimote.

Unfortunately there's a long, complex list of technicalities that surmises to "it just doesn't work that way." Wii U homebrew runs in Wii U mode; Wii homebrew runs in the vWii. Think PC vs Mac: You can't just run an .exe on a Mac (without fiddling with Wine, anyway) and you can't run a Wii ELF in Wii U mode.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Think PC vs Mac: You can't just run an .exe on a Mac (without fiddling with Wine, anyway) and you can't run a Wii ELF in Wii U mode.

That's not quite the best example, considering there's a fundamental difference with how the OSs work (Windows is NT-based, MacOS/OSX is Unix-based).
I'd almost compare it to trying to launch an app designed for Windows XP in Windows 10. It won't work until you turn a compatibility layer on that's built into the OS. Unfortunately, CafeOS doesn't have that compatibility layer built-in, the apps would all have to be re-worked to account for changes to the system

 

[Biovirulent]

That's not quite the best example, considering there's a fundamental difference with how the OSs work (Windows is NT-based, MacOS/OSX is Unix-based).
I'd almost compare it to trying to launch an app designed for Windows XP in Windows 10. It won't work until you turn a compatibility layer on that's built into the OS. Unfortunately, CafeOS doesn't have that compatibility layer built-in, the apps would all have to be re-worked to account for changes to the system

Oh. No wonder people are using vWii then.

Welp. Time to order an expensive Wiimote.
god knows why they're so expensive

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Oh. No wonder people are using vWii then.

Welp. Time to order an expensive Wiimote.
god knows why they're so expensive

Just get it used on Ebay or something

 

[Biovirulent]

Just get it used on Ebay or something

I managed to find one for $15 or so on amazon for the cheapest. Ebay isn't much better.

 

[xtheman]

@Biovirulent Even if it was possible most homebrew would only allow input from the wiimote

 

[Biovirulent]

@Biovirulent Even if it was possible most homebrew would only allow input from the wiimote

Well.. that's true.

 

[plyscho]

Maybe you can inject an exploitable game (Super Smash Bros. Brawl for example) into a Wii VC title and start the app from there. But you will still need a Wii Remote. And I have no idea what actually would happen.

 

[Edizius]

Maybe you can inject an exploitable game (Super Smash Bros. Brawl for example) into a Wii VC title and start the app from there. But you will still need a Wii Remote. And I have no idea what actually would happen.

This unfortunately not possible but people are at the moment checking how wii vc are embedded. Somewhere on gbatemp there is a thread about it (can't find it at the moment). On wii u hacking discussions there is also a discussion about if it is possible to run an exploit from wii vc but answer as anyhow:"No, not at the moment, but might be possible in future"

 

[plyscho]

This unfortunately not possible but people are at the moment checking how wii vc are embedded. Somewhere on gbatemp there is a thread about it (can't find it at the moment). On wii u hacking discussions there is also a discussion about if it is possible to run an exploit from wii vc but answer as anyhow:"No, not at the moment, but might be possible in future"

Yeah, THIS thread inspired me to create THAT thread.

 

[Edizius]

Yeah, THIS thread inspired me to create THAT thread.

Oh, sorry :-)
Anyhow, there is already a discussion on how the wii files in wii vc's are embedded.

 

[plyscho]

Oh, sorry :-)
Anyhow, there is already a discussion on how the wii files in wii vc's are embedded.

No prob! I hope there's something cool going to happen!

 

[QuarkTheAwesome]

That's not quite the best example, considering there's a fundamental difference with how the OSs work (Windows is NT-based, MacOS/OSX is Unix-based).
I'd almost compare it to trying to launch an app designed for Windows XP in Windows 10. It won't work until you turn a compatibility layer on that's built into the OS. Unfortunately, CafeOS doesn't have that compatibility layer built-in, the apps would all have to be re-worked to account for changes to the system

I'd argue that the difference makes it a great example. Cafe OS is fundamentally different to the Wii's OS; with a new kernel, a new IOS setup, and a set of system libraries. The executable format and the hardware are also both different - and with Wii software, hardware is a big one. The vWii is more of a dual-boot system than a compatibility layer - you may remember that fail0verflow talk where they show the lengths Nintendo went to in order to have the Wii U "become" a Wii.

 

[pedro702]

I managed to find one for $15 or so on amazon for the cheapest. Ebay isn't much better.

i hope you bough an original wiimote becuase fakes/3rd partys dont work on most homebrew apps, and you should buy a CC pro also its the best way on vwii to use homebrew since you cant use the wiiu gc adapter on any homebrew besides nintendont and devolution.

 

[Biovirulent]

i hope you bough an original wiimote becuase fakes/3rd partys dont work on most homebrew apps, and you should buy a CC pro also its the best way on vwii to use homebrew since you cant use the wiiu gc adapter on any homebrew besides nintendont and devolution.

I have 3 GC controllers but no adapter for them on the WiiU.
I'm pretty sure it was original though, we'll have to see.