Hacking Friend Got Banned Today Even Though He Did Not Connect Pre 11/18/16

[Xenon Hacks]

So I don't want to cause a panic but a close friend got banned today when he connected this morning. He had the leaked moon release and beat the game never connecting online, the only time he connected online was on release. The only thing that comes to mind is Nintendo is checking for the "Journey Started" date and banning anyone who has a date pre 11/18. Now I know someone is thinking he probably connected by accident or he's lying but we are both in our 20's and are pretty much past the whole lying thing.

 

[fodder]

Them checking for pre 11/18 if frivolous seeing as it's based on the system time, so I don't know what to say, either he accidentally went online, or something else happened, but it's doubtful Nintendo managed to snipe his system without connecting to the Pokemon servers and giving them solid proof that he was in possession of the game pre 11/18

 

[Xenon Hacks]

Them checking for pre 11/18 if frivolous seeing as it's based on the system time, so I don't know what to say, either he accidentally went online, or something else happened, but it's doubtful Nintendo managed to snipe his system without connecting to the Pokemon servers and giving them solid proof that he was in possession of the game pre 11/18

It's the only thing I can think of we are both 100% sure he did not connect online by accident, they have to be checking for something else we simply don't know about yet.

 

[ketal]

"You agree that your Nintendo 3DS System will connect to the Internet and to Nintendo’s servers—including in both Active Mode and Sleep Mode—for a variety of purposes, including to obtain system or User Content Restriction System updates, for diagnostic purposes, to transmit system log files as described in the Privacy Policy, or to receive Content." (Chapter 1, Nintendo 3DS End User License Agreement)
Tecnically, they could retrieve the activity log.

 

[fodder]

"You agree that your Nintendo 3DS System will connect to the Internet and to Nintendo’s servers—including in both Active Mode and Sleep Mode—for a variety of purposes, including to obtain system or User Content Restriction System updates, for diagnostic purposes, to transmit system log files as described in the Privacy Policy, or to receive Content." (Chapter 1, Nintendo 3DS End User License Agreement)
Tecnically, they could retrieve the activity log.

Sure, but 1000s of people have been "online" with Sun/Moon open pre launch. They didn't go online in game, but they were online on their 3DS, and those people didn't get banned.

 

[Xenon Hacks]

"You agree that your Nintendo 3DS System will connect to the Internet and to Nintendo’s servers—including in both Active Mode and Sleep Mode—for a variety of purposes, including to obtain system or User Content Restriction System updates, for diagnostic purposes, to transmit system log files as described in the Privacy Policy, or to receive Content." (Chapter 1, Nintendo 3DS End User License Agreement)
Tecnically, they could retrieve the activity log.

I thought about this but why pokemon why not all the other games like let's say the monster hunter leaks?

 

[ketal]

I thought about this but why pokemon why not all the other games like let's say the monster hunter leaks?

Because Capcom doesn't care.

The thing I posted comes from the old EULA, but it still applies in the current privacy policy:
"Information we collect automatically. We collect some information automatically when you use our products and services. Some types of information we collect automatically include:
[...] Information about your game play, online status, use of our online services, friends and friend codes, purchases, and other information about your interactions with our products and services.
[...] We maintain log files which record activity related to the use of our products and services, such as the number of hits a particular webpage has received, the type and quality of a user's Internet connection, the type of hardware and/or software used to access a particular service, which features of a service are used and their frequency of use. The entries within these log files may include, for example, your IP addresses, MAC addresses, cookie information, device ID, transactional data, device settings, and download activity. We may use these log files, for example, to monitor traffic on our website, to facilitate use of certain services and to troubleshoot technical problems.
[...] You can opt-out of the collection of certain information by not using our services."

 

[DarkKaine]

Is your friend European by any chance? Afaik for us the game doesn't come out til next week.

 

[Deleted User]

You or your friend where playing the reviewer leak instead of the offical eshop version/physical copy version out in stores online so it only makes sense since it could be flagged/detectable online by Nintendo.

 

[Joom]

Seems like the concern over the version string really wasn't silly. That's the only thing I can think of that would do this.

 

[gamesquest1]

honestly it would be fairly trivial for Nintendo to be crosschecking actual purchases to what people are playing in cia format, that's why it's annoying that people always say "oh cia is totally safe forever lololo nintend can suck ball coz they got no pr00fz"

sure in the past they didn't appear to ban people using cia files but it's totally possible that they could adopt a more aggresive stance.....I would say all wait for the picture to get a bit clearer before jumping to conclusions as to the cause

 

[xBleedingSoulx]

Seems like the concern over the version string really wasn't silly. That's the only thing I can think of that would do this.

That's because a cart dump converted to cia has a version of 0, where legit eShop versions have 16/32. I'm pretty sure they can easily tell if someone is playing a cart or eShop version, so anyone playing an eShop version with the version as 0, they know instantly that they're playing an illegal copy.

 

[x65943]

That's because a cart dump converted to cia has a version of 0, where legit eShop versions have 16/32. I'm pretty sure they can easily tell if someone is playing a cart or eShop version, so anyone playing an eShop version with the version as 0, they know instantly that they're playing an illegal copy.

A user has tested v0 online after release and has had no issues

So here we have it here.

I played the CIA leaked version for ten minutes in WIFi. Festival plaza, and made a free battle. Everything went along as planned. It works.

I went to the Eshop it works. No error code whatsoever.

I have just used Triforce Heroes and tested Wifi. Works fine with no error codes at all.

Note that I have never connected to the internet before the release date of today, meaning no chance of ban waves affecting me at all.

It is completely safe as long as you respect the release date from your region.

For those asking whether it is safe to transfer the leaked CIA save to the cart that you yourself bought, go right ahead. I have made multiple trades today and everything worked. All my games worked and Eshop also worked. The date of the save has never been changed as well (again it is based on the 3DS clock so it will not matter at all.)

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Yes, due to fearmongering from people thinking that the leaked CIA is the one causing the bans.

 

[xBleedingSoulx]

A user has tested v0 online after release and has had no issues

As far as I know, the bans aren't happening instantly, they're happening in waves. I personally didn't get banned for days after going online.

 

[x65943]

As far as I know, the bans aren't happening instantly, they're happening in waves. I personally didn't get banned for days after going online.

So you think even though he was fine yesterday, that he will be banned in the near future?

 

[xBleedingSoulx]

So you think even though he was fine yesterday, that he will be banned in the near future?

It's a possibility, yeah, even the staff at Nintendo have referred to the bans as happening in "waves" in some of the phone conversations and emails posted here.

 

[gamefan5]

Because Capcom doesn't care.

The thing I posted comes from the old EULA, but it still applies in the current privacy policy:
"Information we collect automatically. We collect some information automatically when you use our products and services. Some types of information we collect automatically include:
[...] Information about your game play, online status, use of our online services, friends and friend codes, purchases, and other information about your interactions with our products and services.
[...] We maintain log files which record activity related to the use of our products and services, such as the number of hits a particular webpage has received, the type and quality of a user's Internet connection, the type of hardware and/or software used to access a particular service, which features of a service are used and their frequency of use. The entries within these log files may include, for example, your IP addresses, MAC addresses, cookie information, device ID, transactional data, device settings, and download activity. We may use these log files, for example, to monitor traffic on our website, to facilitate use of certain services and to troubleshoot technical problems.
[...] You can opt-out of the collection of certain information by not using our services."

Just the part in bolded may explain why I am ban free despite having put my hacked 3ds in sleep mode multiple times in the game. Because I opted out of collection of information.

 

[Sketchy1]

I'd like to point out that he never mentioned reinstalling the game, so it could be that he got banned for using the leaked version.

 

[Alkéryn]

I went online in game and i didn't got banned xD

 

[xBleedingSoulx]

Just the part in bolded may explain why I am ban free despite having put my hacked 3ds in sleep mode multiple times in the game. Because I opted out of collection of information.

How did you opt-out? Doesn't playing a game on their console class as using their services?