I just watched Interstellar [Spoilers]

Did you enjoy Interstellar?


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As the title says, I have just watched Interstellar. It's a movie I've been meaning to watch the past 2 years but have never got around to it (my fiancé moaning to me about not watching it was what made me want to watch just so she'd stop moaning) ; it really didn't disappoint, Interstellar is one of those movies that hit me hard, mostly because it perfectly imaged my outlook of our future. For as long as I can remember I've always looked to the stars for answers, my first memory being "why are those milk drops stuck in the sky?" (I really liked milk, not so much anymore) And ever since then I'd always think of our future, I guess the stars really represented the future, bright but pretty dark otherwise the future has filled me with this anger that we have the ability to stop our homes destruction but we don't. (I'm a natural thinker, its what's lead me to my love for astrophysics and my degree in said field.)

Anyways, back to the movie, the basic premise being that we have little to no food and all technology is useless because our very survival is in danger; there's no point in relying on tech when we are struggling to provide food on the table. That's when it hit me, the moment that old, British guy said we weren't meant to die here, why the fuck are we dying here in the first place? It entertained the idea that humanity never learned its lesson, and the main character's anger throughout the movie reflected my thoughts exactly. After finishing watching this, I wondered, will humanity have to go through wormholes just to survive? Will we make the mistakes entertained by this fictitious movie? It seems fiction is becoming fact. By 2040 we will be able to sail over the north pole.

TL;DR I really liked the movie and it really made me question our future even more than I already have. (if you enjoyed Interstellar, I recommend Before the Flood which is a documentary from not too long ago (a few months?))

So what are your guys thoughts?
 
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I have watched "before the flood" and the movie interstellar.

To your point: humanity or people in general don't care about any issues as long as it doesn't affect them personally.
This is true from the smallest scales like at work, where one department tells the others that if they don't take preventative measures, then both departments will fail. No one will take the signs seriously until both departments fail.

So what I'm saying is, things will have to get a lot worse before try get better. A lot worse.
 

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I saw it in the theater when it released and I really enjoyed it, but I guessed every plot point before it happened which took a little of the fun out of it.
 

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If humanity would bet for his place up there, we should get the idea that the future will be staying on a spaceship literally for ever, navigating the space with no place which we would call "home". (Aside from Earth, which at that point should be heavily polluted of engulfed with heat thanks to the Sun). Going to extrasolar planets is already a problem (obviously: propulsion, time, resources...), but even if we get to there as intended, we would condome humanity to repeat the same story which is finding a problem (extreme pollution/Sun dying/Asteroid attack...), go to space and seek another planet, land on that planet and repeat over and over and over. Also, i haven't mentioned the super-luminic speed of the expansion of the universe, which means we're also timed (since expansion accelerates, Big Rip might happend) and also making distances between galaxies more pronunciated = more time traveling space.

From my point of view, is about dying here or dying trying to figure out how to reach other planets (or living freezed forever on a aimless spaceship), but what could be better than the second one? This reminds me that the bad things can act as a magnifying glass to look for good things. So accepting our end with holding hands would look like a charm.

But i would like to see how Space Tourism will do the job for the "public in general".
 
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I have watched "before the flood" and the movie interstellar.

To your point: humanity or people in general don't care about any issues as long as it doesn't affect them personally.
This is true from the smallest scales like at work, where one department tells the others that if they don't take preventative measures, then both departments will fail. No one will take the signs seriously until both departments fail.

So what I'm saying is, things will have to get a lot worse before try get better. A lot worse.

I could not agree more with this. To put it in perspective there is still people dying of famine, genocied, plagues in this world and we have organizations investing billions of dollars to try and colonize Mars in the future.

Completely agree that it is a human tendency to worry about what's closer to their issues or perceived issues of the world such as climate change, yet not be able to solve issues such as famine or plagues... Like a good friend of mine used to say, "you can't let the cart get ahead of the horses"
 
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I could not agree more with this. To put it in perspective there is still people dying of famine, genocied, plagues in this world and we have organizations investing billions of dollars to try and colonize Mars in the future.

Completely agree that it is a human tendency to worry about what's closer to their issues or perceived issues of the world such as climate change, yet not be able to solve issues such as famine or plagues... Like a good friend of mine used to say, "you can't let the cart get ahead of the horses"
I'd much rather care about the 6.4 billion humans rather than the 600 million suffering from Famine.

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If humanity would bet for his place up there, we should get the idea that the future will be staying on a spaceship literally for ever, navigating the space with no place which we would call "home". (Aside from Earth, which at that point should be heavily polluted of engulfed with heat thanks to the Sun). Going to extrasolar planets is already a problem (obviously: propulsion, time, resources...), but even if we get to there as intended, we would condome humanity to repeat the same story which is finding a problem (extreme pollution/Sun dying/Asteroid attack...), go to space and seek another planet, land on that planet and repeat over and over and over. Also, i haven't mentioned the super-luminic speed of the expansion of the universe, which means we're also timed (since expansion accelerates, Big Rip might happend) and also making distances between galaxies more pronunciated = more time traveling space.

From my point of view, is about dying here or dying trying to figure out how to reach other planets (or living freezed forever on a aimless spaceship), but what could be better than the second one? This reminds me that the bad things can act as a magnifying glass to look for good things. So accepting our end with holding hands would look like a charm.

But i would like to see how Space Tourism will do the job for the "public in general".
Actually propulsion isnt an issue in space as you could use the gravity of other planets to slingshot you and keep your speed constant.

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I have watched "before the flood" and the movie interstellar.

To your point: humanity or people in general don't care about any issues as long as it doesn't affect them personally.
This is true from the smallest scales like at work, where one department tells the others that if they don't take preventative measures, then both departments will fail. No one will take the signs seriously until both departments fail.

So what I'm saying is, things will have to get a lot worse before try get better. A lot worse.
Yep, thats what angers me, humanities stupid irrationality but now, we're at a tipping point, if we dont fix things by 2020, we're fucked. I remember talking about this with my fiance when she asked me why i stopped eating beef and drinking milk, the more we eat cattle the more the world gets messed up. more than 50% of our land is used to feed cattle less than 1% food. We wont ever run out of food, but we will run out of land. Seems it would be great if team magma existed in the real world...
 
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I'd much rather care about the 6.4 billion humans rather than the 600 million suffering from Famine.

I encourage you to read the short story "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas".

I would argue that this is an example of exactly what @Engert posted that humanity worries more about issues that directly affect them, i.e you worry about climate change an issue that would affect 6.4 billion as you put it (a population you and I are in) much more than you would rather worry about 600 million people (a population you and I are not).

Just my 2 cents.
 

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I encourage you to read the short story "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas".

I would argue that this is an example of exactly what @Engert posted that humanity worries more about issues that directly affect them, i.e you worry about climate change an issue that would affect 6.4 billion as you put it (a population you and I are in) much more than you would rather worry about 600 million people (a population you and I are not).

Just my 2 cents.
saving 6.4 billion is better than saving 600 million objectivly
 

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That's a point that's been debated in philosophy and ethics for ages... I don't think a right or wrong answer has been decided. But hey I'm happy you have made up your mind, not right or wrong IMO.
I think with numbers not feelings. I'd rather have my fiance die than have all of humanity disappear, Im just happy she thinks the same :rolleyes:
 

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Too emotionally manipulative for me.

The sci-fi parts were cool and all but after a few time loss/skip parts, I realized this movie is going way out of its way to try and get me to feel things.
 

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Too emotionally manipulative for me.

The sci-fi parts were cool and all but after a few time loss/skip parts, I realized this movie is going way out of its way to try and get me to feel things.
haha really worked on me, made me feel anger, sadness and hopefulness for the future. Quite a powerful story although the ending made zero sense. How the fuck does love affect quantum physics?
 

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Haha I think I'm finally starting to understand


What do you find interesting about quantum Physics?
Pretty much all of it, the fact we cant understand things like the double slit experiment, its one of the reasons i began studying physics and go on to study at university although i did instead do Astrophysics.
 
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Actually propulsion isnt an issue in space as you could use the gravity of other planets to slingshot you and keep your speed constant

Of course, but how long you will have to wait to reach even the other side of the solar system? Sadly we don't have the "advantage" of having a worm hole near Earth (going into a wormhole can instantly kill you but that aside...). As mentioned ealier: Spaceship speed / Time * Superluminic expansion speed = Ultimate Doom (Not the game BTW LOL).
 
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Of course, but how long you will have to wait to reach even the other side of the solar system? Sadly we don't have the "advantage" of having a worm hole near Earth (going into a wormhole can instantly kill you but that aside...). As mentioned ealier: Spaceship speed / Time * Superluminic expansion speed = Ultimate Doom (Not the game BTW LOL).
Technically we could use quantum physics to bend space and time without the need of wormhole. Quantum entanglement can provide such a possibility. Also what does superluminal expansion have anything to do with this?
 
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