Hacking Is the NUS/tik file structure the way of the future?

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I am asking because I need to know if I should replace my loadiine backups with these now. Or do you think that when the cfw becomes available, there will be a Loadiine compatible USB loader? Thanks.
 

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I can't see the piracy getting any better, if that's what you are asking. These games all work the same as Nintendo designed. The saves, dlc, game updates, data management, etc all work like a stock wii u now. The games work from coldboot without the need to run any exploits. They also work online and there are no problematic games with loading etc. Rarely, and maybe never again, will piracy be this clean.
 
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I can't see the piracy getting any better if that's what you are asking. These games all work in the same fashion and Nintendo designed. The saves, dlc, data management, etc all work like a stock wii u now. The games work from coldboot without the need to run any exploits. They also work online and there are no problematic games with loading etc. Rarely, and maybe never again, will piracy be this clean.
with ps3 we could install real digital content, 3ds too.
but sure, with wii u it's just because nintendo did something weird, and so once the game is installed, we can run them without hacks.

but having a cfw that has signature patches, will still be useful. yes i doubt there will be many instances of having stuff working without hacks, but having a dirty ticket amongst all the legit data isn't really a bad way either, it's virtually perfect :)

yet with wii u and vita we still don't have sig patching... annoying.

-- but yes, the wii u piracy CAN get better, when we have signature patches we can install things that don't have a disk based ticket, things like dlc (and unlocked dlc that FunKiiU can make), updates, etc.
 
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Signature patched will most likely require running a exploit each time, unless a coldboot hack is discovered... I just love the simplicity of this for my 5yo son. Although he was a pro with booting his wii u, and runnning loadiine to get his games going...
 

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with ps3 we could install real digital content, 3ds too.
but sure, with wii u it's just because nintendo did something weird, and so once the game is installed, we can run them without hacks.

but having a cfw that has signature patches, will still be useful. yes i doubt there will be many instances of having stuff working without hacks, but having a dirty ticket amongst all the legit data isn't really a bad way either, it's virtually perfect :)

yet with wii u and vita we still don't have sig patching... annoying.

-- but yes, the wii u piracy CAN get better, when we have signature patches we can install things that don't have a disk based ticket, things like dlc (and unlocked dlc that FunKiiU can make), updates, etc.
Wait, I thought henkaku has sig patch? And we can install updates on wiiu?
 
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Wait, I thought henkaku has sig patch? And we can install updates on wiiu?
henkaku does something, because yeah we can load homebrew.
but it doesn't patch the stuff that process '.rif' files, which are basically sony's tickets.

i am not sure if we can install legit updates, or if we can only use updates with loadiine, i don't know.
but, updates don't have a cetk so i don't think we can have legit updates, without loadiine, or without signature patches.

but i don't have a wii u, i don't really know. :)
 
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henkaku does something, because yeah we can load homebrew.
but it doesn't patch the stuff that process '.rif' files, which are basically sony's tickets.

i am not sure if we can install legit updates, or if we can only use updates with loadiine, i don't know.
but, updates don't have a cetk so i don't think we can have legit updates, without loadiine, or without signature patches.

but i don't have a wii u, i don't really know. :)

The updates are directly from Nintendo and work the same as disc/eshop games. The game will check on launch for update , then download, install, and boot fine.
 

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The updates are directly from Nintendo and work the same as disc/eshop games. The game will check on launch for update , then download, install, and boot fine.
yes i know the updates are from nintendo, but i'm not sure if we can install them without going to eshop.without updating from the home menu.
as in, i want to know about installing updates using wupinstaller
 

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with ps3 we could install real digital content, 3ds too.
but sure, with wii u it's just because nintendo did something weird, and so once the game is installed, we can run them without hacks.

but having a cfw that has signature patches, will still be useful. yes i doubt there will be many instances of having stuff working without hacks, but having a dirty ticket amongst all the legit data isn't really a bad way either, it's virtually perfect :)

yet with wii u and vita we still don't have sig patching... annoying.

-- but yes, the wii u piracy CAN get better, when we have signature patches we can install things that don't have a disk based ticket, things like dlc (and unlocked dlc that FunKiiU can make), updates, etc.

Ok so Loadiine is basically obsolete now. I should just go ahead and replace my Loadiine backups, with the NUS files. Thank you guys for your help.
 

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Ok so Loadiine is basically obsolete now. I should just go ahead and replace my Loadiine backups, with the NUS files. Thank you guys for your help.

You can even move over your saves using saviine and the tutorial made. It worked great for me on a few games.
 

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Ok so Loadiine is basically obsolete now. I should just go ahead and replace my Loadiine backups, with the NUS files. Thank you guys for your help.
well loadiine can still load out of region games, vc injects and games that arent on the eshop. This new method is great for simplicity and some games work much better off a usb hard drive or system memory.
 
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well loadiine can still load out of region games, vc injects and games that arent on the eshop. This new method is great for simplicity and some games work much better off a usb hard drive or system memory.

Right. But with CFW right around the corner, I'll just switch to NUS. Someone actually got my Eshop tiks to work with RedNAND.
 

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Right. But with CFW right around the corner, I'll just switch to NUS. Someone actually got my Eshop tiks to work with RedNAND.
Speaking of this. Some guy in that ISO place is claiming to be using a Rednand with signature check patched, he even posted a screenshot of the VC games he supposedly installed with WUP Installer (Something not possible with signed tickets). So... Did I miss something? Is this true? I would have expected a huge thread of this matter in GBATemp's Recent Activity.
 

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Speaking of this. Some guy in that ISO place is claiming to be using a Rednand with signature check patched, he even posted a screenshot of the VC games he supposedly installed with WUP Installer (Something not possible with signed tickets). So... Did I miss something? Is this true? I would have expected a huge thread of this matter in GBATemp's Recent Activity.

Hey @Garro lol. Nice to see you again from that site haha. YoNoid.
 

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I guess using the same profile picture in every social site finally paid off haha! Hey YoNoid. I guess you know what topic I'm talking about.

I personally don't think he is telling the truth. We would have heard about that on here.

EDIT - Now I'm 99% sure he's lying. There is no way that Smea would add a way for piracy lol.
 
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signature patches should come soon, i guess before christmas at least. which is fine by me :)

Exactly. I am going to get everything needed before everything Officially becomes released. That way I'll be ready.

@Garro, I am going to test him. I have an unknown tik and I want to know what it is :)
 
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yes i know the updates are from nintendo, but i'm not sure if we can install them without going to eshop.without updating from the home menu.
as in, i want to know about installing updates using wupinstaller
You can install updates using wupinstaller. When downloading updates from NUS the title.tik is also provided.

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Exactly. I am going to get everything needed before everything Officially becomes released. That way I'll be ready.

@Garro, I am going to test him. I have an unknown tik and I want to know what it is :)
Unknown tik and would like to know what title it is? PM me the tik and I could possibly tell you what it is.
 

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