Homebrew [Discussion] How do you think we'll be able to bypass minimumVersionRequired?

[KapuDaKoopa]

Title

It's left me quite stumped, as through reading the list is based on titleIDs, so if you did something with them you could downgrade.

But titleIDs are just basically a name for the 3DS to tell Nintendo's servers to download a certain file, so you can't really spoof titleIDs.

I'm genuinely curious as to how you guys think we'll be able to downgrade again and bypass this pesky minimumVersionRequired stuff.

So discuss away!

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Title

It's left me quite stumped, as through reading the list is based on titleIDs, so if you did something with them you could downgrade.

But titleIDs are just basically a name for the 3DS to tell Nintendo's servers to download a certain file, so you can't really spoof titleIDs.

I'm genuinely curious as to how you guys think we'll be able to downgrade again and bypass this pesky minimumVersionRequired stuff.

So discuss away!

An ARM9 kernel exploit would do it, but at the moment there isn't even an ARM11 kernel exploit for 11.0.

 

[Ryccardo]

An ARM9 kernel exploit would do it, but at the moment there isn't even an ARM11 kernel exploit for 11.0.

This (at which point there'll be no need to install 9.2 anyway, although you'll still need 2.1 to dump otp - which if installed via otphelper already bypasses any kernel-based version check!)

 

[KapuDaKoopa]

An ARM9 kernel exploit would do it, but at the moment there isn't even an ARM11 kernel exploit for 11.0.

Really?
I thought OoThax and Freakyhax were ARM11 kernel exploits, though.
Or am I just confusing userland and kernel now?

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Really?
I thought OoThax and Freakyhax were ARM11 kernel exploits, though.
Or am I just confusing userland and kernel now?

They're both userland exploits, just a means to run unsigned code.

 

[Arceus922]

An ARM9 kernel exploit would do it, but at the moment there isn't even an ARM11 kernel exploit for 11.0.

LOL if an arm9 exploit is found then its 9.2 all over again!!! And which means that you dont neeed to downgrade!!!!

 

[Roboman]

It is bypassed by hardmod currently.
Flashing native firm for 10.6 (might be different, details not so important for argument) directly onto the nand.
Won't work anymore once the other system titles need 11.0 or higher native firm to work

 

[KaduPSE]

It is bypassed by hardmod currently.
Flashing native firm for 10.6 (might be different, details not so important for argument) directly onto the nand.
Won't work anymore once the other system titles need 11.0 or higher native firm to work

Hardmod doesn't bypass it, because it doesn't downgrade any titles, it replaces them directly on the NAND chip. Completely different.

 

[Jair]

Hardmod doesn't bypass it, because it doesn't downgrade any titles, it replaces them directly on the NAND chip. Completely different.

Theoretically what would be needed to develop (and run) a homebrew that Flashes the 3DS Native Firm? I mean a homebrew that does what the hardmod does without opening so we can then downgrade even on 11.0? A Arm9 exploit or would an Arm11 Kernel exploit do?

 

[Biovirulent]

Theoretically what would be needed to develop (and run) a homebrew that Flashes the 3DS Native Firm? I mean a homebrew that does what the hardmod does without opening so we can then downgrade even on 11.0? A Arm9 exploit or would an Arm11 Kernel exploit do?

We don't have that kind of access in userland do we? That might kernel only, which is cia (correct me if i'm wrong), so there would be little to no point in downgrading if you already have access to that.

 

[PK101]

Before I had a9lh, I just used the hbl. Always worked perfectly for me.

 

[KaduPSE]

Theoretically what would be needed to develop (and run) a homebrew that Flashes the 3DS Native Firm? I mean a homebrew that does what the hardmod does without opening so we can then downgrade even on 11.0? A Arm9 exploit or would an Arm11 Kernel exploit do?

Previously, with an ARM11 exploit you could downgrade all system titles, so that would be enought to replace a hardmod. Since 11.0, you would need an ARM9 exploit, those are very powerful but also very rare.

 

[Deleted User]

magical fairy dust

 

[Deleted member 386348]

magical fairy dust

Anyways, I think we'll be able to at one point. Probably not on 11.0, but we should be able to find an ARM9 exploit sooner or later. Hell, it could be on 13.0, as we only found the second one 5 versions from the first.

 

[Halvorsen]

Arm9 exploit. Which is redundant, because if we have an arm9 exploit we wouldn't have to downgrade.

 

[Deleted member 386348]

Arm9 exploit. Which is redundant, because if we have an arm9 exploit we wouldn't hzve to downgrade.

2.1.

EDIT: I know you mean 9.2, but downgrading is still relevant because of the OTP.

 

[Halvorsen]

2.1.

EDIT: I know you mean 9.2, but downgrading is still relevant because of the OTP.

IK, I never said downgrading itself would be dead. Just that we could pretty much do away with 9.2.