Hacking Some Wii Games load on USB Loader GX, but Controllers Don't Work.

[bluebocat]

So I've been using USB Loader GX for a very long time and just recently started to load my Wii backups. But when I try to load the majority of the Wii backups, they load, however, the controllers DON'T WORK at all. An example of this is DBZ Tenkaichi 3. Whenever I try to load it, it plays, but I cant get past the title screen because the buttons don't work. I tried using both the Gamecube controller and the Wiimote but still no success.

I assumed this was the ISO, so i tested it on dolphin and it worked completely fine. So I had assumed that it was the loader and not the ISO. I switched to Wiiflow to see if this was a USB Loader GX thing, but even on Wiiflow not success.

And this example applies to 3 other Wii games (Sonic Colors, Kirby's Return to Dreamland, and Tastunoko vs. Capcom), but not at all with gamecube backups. These load flawlessly with no hickups.

USB loader GX version used is v3.0 rev.1260

Please help!!!!

 

[Clutz450]

Maybe something is happening that is causing the wiimotes to desync. Try loading up the game again and once loaded, press the rec sync buttons on both your Wii and your Wiimote and see if they connect.

 

[Cyan]

It could be an issue with the controller itself, if it's not an official nintendo product.
Third parties are known to have compatibility issues, I guess it can happen even with official games.

it doesn't happen with gamecube backup, because you probably are using Nintendont. That loader is not using the real controller functions but emulating the input by reading raw button states.
You can enable the official controller function (Native control : ON) and see if it has the same issue.
Try another wiimote or gamecube controller if you can.

 

[bluebocat]

It could be an issue with the controller itself, if it's not an official nintendo product.
Third parties are known to have compatibility issues, I guess it can happen even with official games.

it doesn't happen with gamecube backup, because you probably are using Nintendont. That loader is not using the real controller functions but emulating the input by reading raw button states.
You can enable the official controller function (Native control : ON) and see if it has the same issue.
Try another wiimote or gamecube controller if you can.

tried all 4 o

It could be an issue with the controller itself, if it's not an official nintendo product.
Third parties are known to have compatibility issues, I guess it can happen even with official games.

it doesn't happen with gamecube backup, because you probably are using Nintendont. That loader is not using the real controller functions but emulating the input by reading raw button states.
You can enable the official controller function (Native control : ON) and see if it has the same issue.
Try another wiimote or gamecube controller if you can.

Tried all four of my other gamecube controllers and still no success. The native control support, which was previously OFF, was under nintendont in settings and was turned on. But, isn't nintendont for gamecube backups? The wii backups are the ones that are not working properly.

An exception to the problem I'm having is New Super Mario brothers. Wii remotes work fine on the this backup. Its the other Wii backups that no controller works on.

 

[Jack Daniels]

tried all 4 o


Tried all four of my other gamecube controllers and still no success. The native control support, which was previously OFF, was under nintendont in settings and was turned on. But, isn't nintendont for gamecube backups? The wii backups are the ones that are not working properly.

An exception to the problem I'm having is New Super Mario brothers. Wii remotes work fine on the this backup. Its the other Wii backups that no controller works on.

hope this i don't bother anyone, but what mios (cmios/dios mios/mios v..) have you got installed and what cios (with base ios number and version please and cios version number) do you use for those games? cause i've had some problems before with dios mios and cmios... wireless gc controllers are not all working with all cios...
usb loader might not be the real problem (could be the settings in usb loader or the installed cios/mios)...

 

[Cyan]

You mentioned that it doesn't happen with gamecube backup, so I talked about it too.
Do you have official or unofficial wiimotes? if it happens only in some games, I think it's related to the wiimote and not the loaders or hack.
could you try another (official) wiimote? maybe borrow one from a friend if you don't have another one.

If your wiimote is a wiimote+ (bundled with the motion+) try an old wiimote without motion+

 

[Jack Daniels]

not all wii games support gc controllers... what i read is gc controllers on wii games... it can't be the loader since the game itself does the calls, loader just assigns the right iso to the right cios... therefore i thought it be the cios/mios... most likely the cios... all wireless gc controllers i tried worked normal official and non official, the wireless ones however gave me a lot of bugs... those did so when using official discs too so it wasn't the loader.

 

[bluebocat]

Maybe something is happening that is causing the wiimotes to desync. Try loading up the game again and once loaded, press the rec sync buttons on both your Wii and your Wiimote and see if they connect.

The Wiimotes sync back up and the player 1 light lights up, but still no success with controllers working. I also tried your advice to resync controllers after loading but still no success with controllers working.

You mentioned that it doesn't happen with gamecube backup, so I talked about it too.
Do you have official or unofficial wiimotes? if it happens only in some games, I think it's related to the wiimote and not the loaders or hack.
could you try another (official) wiimote? maybe borrow one from a friend if you don't have another one.

If your wiimote is a wiimote+ (bundled with the motion+) try an old wiimote without motion+

Using an official wiimote with no motion plus bundled. I'll see if I can borrow another wiimote from a friend and see if that can make a difference. But what if i want to use gamecube controllers for certain games like DBZ tenkaichi 3 or SSB Brawl?

 

[Cyan]

if you are using an official without motion+, then I don't know what your issue is, sorry. same for gamecube controllers, if they are official (not wireless).
I based it off the issue that unofficial ones can encounter.

Sometime it's something really easy to fix and we don't think about it.
I hope someone else will have an idea.

 

[bluebocat]

not all wii games support gc controllers... what i read is gc controllers on wii games... it can't be the loader since the game itself does the calls, loader just assigns the right iso to the right cios... therefore i thought it be the cios/mios... most likely the cios... all wireless gc controllers i tried worked normal official and non official, the wireless ones however gave me a lot of bugs... those did so when using official discs too so it wasn't the loader.

Im aware that some wii games have no gamecube controller support, but the ones that do have gamecube controller support (Sonic Colors, DBZ Tenkaichi 3, Super Smash Bros Brawl) aren't working for gamecube controllers. These are also all official controllers. For the cIOS I only dont really know. I only installed the ones I was supposed to to get the loader running properly.

 

[petethepug]

This one guy had a similar problem with the Wii. Somehow it had gotten fixed.

I will link back to it
http://forums.afterdawn.com/threads/cant-get-wii-remotes-to-sync.700599/

He fixed it using Bootmii somehow. But I believe completely moving to a completely new loader MAY work. CFG Loader, or WiiFlow may be best to solving the issue. For the Wii remote issue it may be a problem with the actual Wiimote,

Some newer models of the Wiimote, and wiimotion plus may not work as well on the Wii as well.

 

[GreyWolf]

Do the remotes work if you use the retail discs for the games? If they work on the system menu and disc-booted games your custom IOS may have gotten screwed up.

 

[bluebocat]

Do the remotes work if you use the retail discs for the games? If they work on the system menu and disc-booted games your custom IOS may have gotten screwed up.

The remotes work fine on disc mounted games. I assume that it could quite possibly the cIOS's that I installed, or it could be that I have to install more tho get the remotes working on these games properly. I have d2x cios already installed. Which cIOS should I install?

 

[GreyWolf]

The remotes work fine on disc mounted games. I assume that it could quite possibly the cIOS's that I installed, or it could be that I have to install more tho get the remotes working on these games properly. I have d2x cios already installed. Which cIOS should I install?

You might just need to reinstall them. I missed it if you posted one, but a SysCheck report might help.

Another thing that could matter... are you using SNEEK or UNEEK? Their preferences are not synced with the real NAND's.

 

[bluebocat]

You might just need to reinstall them. I missed it if you posted one, but a SysCheck report might help.

Another thing that could matter... are you using SNEEK or UNEEK? Their preferences are not synced with the real NAND's.

Here's my SysCheck:

Spoiler

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)

Drive date: 02.13.2007
Homebrew Channel 1.1.0 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 54264017
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: United States (49)
Boot2 v4
Found 108 titles.
Found 50 IOS on this console. 4 of them are stubs.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS80 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[37] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10 (DIOS MIOS 2.10)
Report generated on 02/23/1989.

 

[GreyWolf]

That looks fine other than that it says it was generated in 1989.

You could always try reinstalling IOS249/250 and see if that helps.

 

[bluebocat]

That looks fine other than that it says it was generated in 1989.

You could always try reinstalling IOS249/250 and see if that helps.

Ok I'm gonna reinstall those IOS's. Now what about this SNEEK and UNEEK?

 

[GreyWolf]

Ok I'm gonna reinstall those IOS's. Now what about this SNEEK and UNEEK?

If you didn't set that up then it's not the problem. NEEK is a method to run your Wii from SD/HDD instead of using the console's NAND memory. It's neat but we should figure out what's wrong with your controllers first.

 

[bluebocat]

If you didn't set that up then it's not the problem. NEEK is a method to run your Wii from SD/HDD instead of using the console's NAND memory. It's neat but we should figure out what's wrong with your controllers first.

I tried to reinstall the IOS's but I couldn't figure out how. I tried using Wiimod first, but it said that these ios's are stubs and could brick my Wii so i got a little scared. I then switched over to d2xcios and tried to install but still nothing worked. I just want to play Tenkaichi 3

 

[KJ1]

Are you using Nunchuck with the Wiimote?