Gaming do you feel that homebrew access on a system makes Nintendo want to move on sooner?

[RemixDeluxe]

Just asking this question for fun and personal curiosity. There's rumors of Nintendo coming out with a new handheld codenamed MH (Miku Hatsune?) and will release sometime next year. It's a given that a new handheld is going to be released but what strikes me as odd is how soon it's coming. Normally Nintendo handhelds last a bit longer on the market than their consoles but I'm wondering if homebrew has any impact on when they decide it's time to move on. Maybe if too many people are homebrewing their systems they would want to cut support so no games can get pirated and move on to another system that hasn't been cracked.

What do you guys think?

 

[zoogie]

No, it just makes them (they think) more careful on the next platform and learn from their mistakes. Their business plan doesn't revolve around piracy, the same way walmart doesn't plan their marketing, logistics, personel, etc to combat shoplifting.

 

[Sumsquat]

NDS -> 2004/5
3DS -> 2011
6-7 years lifespan. The 3DS is next year 6 years old. Nothing odd to me

 

[Rockhoundhigh]

Even when hacking/piracy seems rampant only a small subset of users really ever take advantage. The average consumer just really doesn't know about Cubic Ninja or A9LH. In the case of the 3DS it's had a good run and is nearing the end of its life gracefully. The Wii U while I enjoy mine has a been a commercial disaster, piracy or no. Nintedo is trying to move on to meet a fiscal bottom line rather than try to patch a sunken ship. The Wii for example was hacked to pieces fairly early on in its life but it lived on due to strong consumer adoption and sales. At the end of the day, it's just business.

 

[astrangeone]

I hope Nintendo listens to their hard core fanbase and doesn't go back to region locking (but given that it's Nintendo, nope, that's still going to be a thing). I enjoyed playing out of region games on my PSP, NDS without installing custom firmware. I mean, it's a global age, where I can go buy all the shit I want from China/Hong Kong/Japan, and having to rebuy a console just so I can get their games on it? No thanks.

Personally, I think it's time for Nintendo to move on, and perhaps build better infrastructre (Hi, FC's, and clumsy NNIDs).

 

[RemixDeluxe]

I really dont understand how region locking benefits either party involved. I mean Sony and Microsoft have had their systems region free and they arent losing business from it, in fact they are in the lead this generation so Nintendo should take note.

Another thing that bothers me is the censorship policies, not sure if its just coincidence but Nintendo seems to have been more aggressive with their censoring ever since Iwata has passed away and every game that has been affected since I've just imported for myself and I'll continue to import all my games that are being hit with this agenda that NoA is pushing. I'm grateful for homebrew devs from both the Wii U and 3DS scene to allow me to play my imported games.

 

[Vondosaurusrex]

I hope Nintendo listens to their hard core fanbase and doesn't go back to region locking (but given that it's Nintendo, nope, that's still going to be a thing). I enjoyed playing out of region games on my PSP, NDS without installing custom firmware. I mean, it's a global age, where I can go buy all the shit I want from China/Hong Kong/Japan, and having to rebuy a console just so I can get their games on it? No thanks.

Personally, I think it's time for Nintendo to move on, and perhaps build better infrastructre (Hi, FC's, and clumsy NNIDs).

The thing I don't understand about region locking is that it's a very deliberate choice on the software side (nowadays anyways) that has hardly any real benefit to the producer? I mean most consumers just are not willing to pay for a second console, but if they let software be imported, they may be able to get money from out-of-region consumers more easily. Instead they have to take the time to implement software checks on the regions of the game and console and block them, even though the hardware supports the game just fine.

 

[astrangeone]

The thing I don't understand about region locking is that it's a very deliberate choice on the software side (nowadays anyways) that has hardly any real benefit to the producer? I mean most consumers just are not willing to pay for a second console, but if they let software be imported, they may be able to get money from out-of-region consumers more easily. Instead they have to take the time to implement software checks on the regions of the game and console and block them, even though the hardware supports the game just fine.

Exactly. It costs them money and good will with the customers as well. So I have no idea why they still implement it!

 

[EmperorOfCanada]

What pisses me off if paying for the same games over and over and over again. Its no wonder many people resort to piracy.

 

[RemixDeluxe]

What pisses me off if paying for the same games over and over and over again. Its no wonder many people resort to piracy.

Give some examples? Everything from this gen has been pretty fresh. I'd say it was last gen with the Wii where games were too casualized and played "too safe" that made things stale.

 

[EmperorOfCanada]

Give some examples? Everything from this gen has been pretty fresh. I'd say it was last gen with the Wii where games were too casualized and played "too safe" that made things stale.

Actually I meant paying for 'literally' the same games over and over again. Super mario bros 1,2,3,World. I guess maybe I exaggerated the point a little but I dont want to buy a game on VC for wii, again for 3ds, again for whatever systems come next. Let me buy once and add it to my collection.

 

[RemixDeluxe]

Actually I meant paying for 'literally' the same games over and over again. Super mario bros 1,2,3,World. I guess maybe I exaggerated the point a little but I dont want to buy a game on VC for wii, again for 3ds, again for whatever systems come next. Let me buy once and add it to my collection.

Virtual console is suppose to serve to those that want to play retro games without paying for the 2nd hand market which is great for those that want to pay just $10 for Earthbound rather than the $160-200 for the original SNES cartridge.

I dont know why you would single out a single service on the Wii U when you should be focusing on its original library of games (actual Wii U games.) Thats like saying you hate your new car because it doesnt play your favorite radio station rather than focusing on the MPG or how well it can handle terrain and weather, you know the features of the product that should matter?

 

[EmperorOfCanada]

Virtual console is suppose to serve to those that want to play retro games without paying for the 2nd hand market which is great for those that want to pay just $10 for Earthbound rather than the $160-200 for the original SNES cartridge.

I dont know why you would single out a single service on the Wii U when you should be focusing on its original library of games (actual Wii U games.) Thats like saying you hate your new car because it doesnt play your favorite radio station rather than focusing on the MPG or how well it can handle terrain and weather, you know the features of the product that should matter?

Easy partner, I can like or dislike whatever features I want.And I never owned a Wii U, just the Wii, and the DS before it. There is a lot to like about the 3DS, that just wasnt the point I was trying to make. In fact I only posted one sentance its not like I was ranting about it for pages and pages. Dont read so much into it.

 

[RemixDeluxe]

Easy partner, I can like or dislike whatever features I want.And I never owned a Wii U, just the Wii, and the DS before it. There is a lot to like about the 3DS, that just wasnt the point I was trying to make. In fact I only posted one sentance its not like I was ranting about it for pages and pages. Dont read so much into it.

I wasnt personally attacking you if thats how you interpreted my response. I'm just suggesting its silly to get upset over a service thats intended for an audience of gamers who prefer older generations of gaming or never had the chance to play them before.

Call me crazy but I just think the original games for a system should be the most important feature in a video game console, your welcome to dislike the virtual console all you want.

P.S. From a retro enthusiast standpoint its much better to just get the original system + everdrive + a CRT for the accuracy and authentic experience that emulators cant match.

 

[MarioFanatic64]

No. If that was Nintendo's concern, the DS wouldn't have been supported for eight years.

 

[HaloEliteLegend]

Reading all of this, I have to say that the 3DS had a very good life. Yeah, while we all love homebrew and all, flash cards were nowhere near as rampant as the old DS. Modding the ol' DS was fun, and those were the good 'ol days, but Nintendo really stepped up their security with the 3DS and locked out flash cards to only the most dedicated modders. While modding the 3DS was fun, too, normal consumers couldn't take advantage of them like the old cards because of all the added measures and hoops to jump through.

Now the ol' 3DS is 5, going on 6 years of age. I remember going out and buying one of the launch models at the ol' $260 price. Funny enough, I bought a Wii U a few years later for $250 -- $10 cheaper than my 3DS! I would welcome a new handheld, which may come in the form of the NX. My ol' 3DS has had a good run. Time for it to live out its last few years like a king and pass the crown to its successor.