State of the 'Temp; Summer 2016

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Vulpes Abnocto

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Hello everyone,
Many of you know me already, and I'm pleased to see you again.
Many others do not and I'm glad to meet you all.
I've been back among the 'Temp for a week now, since hearing about the loss of our dear friend, Densetsu.
And in that time I've been getting to know some new names and personalities,
but most of all I've been observing.
Watching to see how our site operates these days.

A few words come to mind in describing how I feel about the current state of the 'Temp.
Disgusted.
Mortified.
Appalled.
Disappointed.
And these observations have caused a major shift in how I would normally recommend we act and react toward our populace.

Some of you will recall that I've always tried to be the sort of person to forgive transgressions.
I've argued for leniency and clemency while others howled for blood.
I've called for understanding when faced with 'tempers who are just too weird for words to describe.
I've asked for second or even third chances to be given to some who clearly didn't deserve them.

And now when I come back home
I find the forums overrun with idiocy.
Blogs describing one's masturbation habits,
newcomers making new threads every few seconds out of boredom,
meaningless petitions being shoved down our throats for no reason more than to make the participants feel like they're doing something noteworthy.

That's not to say that it's any more idiocy than there was before I left.
The problem is that there are so few good people to balance these others out, and give them an example of how to be decent members of our society. It no longer does much good to tell these newcomers to Lurk Moar, if everyone else is acting the same way.

For the longest time I thought it was a good thing that gamers had a less strict forum to frequent when they have questions that the ban-happy sites don't allow or when they want to mess around and have fun that other groups won't stand for, but I have to wonder if, by taking in these dregs of society, we've brought ourselves down to their level. And it seems to me that perhaps I was wrong for all that time to be so lenient and to ask for such mercy.

Perhaps we should be banning people for stupid questions.
Perhaps somewhere else would be a better environment for their shenanigans.
Perhaps it's time to begin weeding our garden properly.

If I'm wrong to think this, somebody tell me why.
 
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meaningless petitions...... for no reason more than to make the participants feel like they're doing something noteworthy.
If you are referring to the petition made by another user in my blog post (the one to save me from being deleted from the Temp), then all I can say is that I highly disagree with the above statement.

To be quite honest, we don't really ever have anyone make an outside petition on this site that often anyway... In my opinion, the petition made in my blog was showing how many people actually have a strong respect for one-another, not to be daft and immature about the situation and just making petitions for the sake of it.

Honestly, I completely do agree with the rest of your queries,
But I guess it just all comes down to how you look at things...
 

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Current state with all the shitposting is not really suprising.

Moderation has always been fairly lenient here and early days of the site (02-06ish) when the community was far smaller, it was fine. Add to that, GBA cards and then the slot-2 DS cards were expensive and harder to use, pushed to the forum base to only dedicated player who would put up with all the shit that went with them. Once everything got easier with the slot 1 cards and softmodding etc and the community grew, that kind of soft moderating was never going to work.

Also doesn't help that the shitposting in threads, when it is dealt with, is not done fairly. With one side of whatever the current issue is, being allowed to shit up threads, while the other side gets their posts deleted when doing the same, which just leads to more arguments.
 

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Honestly, I hate what the Temp has become. Seriously, look at the CFW section in the 3DS. 90% of the threads are the same thread, asking the same question, often an hour apart from each other. No attempts to search or even just ask the question the official thread.
Then the official CFW threads are often spammed with random disrespect for no reason other than to shitpost. Projects are discouraged to the point were most devs have started to avoid our site and projects go into private development.
This was not always the case for the Temp and it's saddens me to see the site in such a horrible state.
 

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its something that is happening with a lot forums as of late with the influx of the instagram kids who wants that quick info and who post info before thinking twice.


forums members used to be less fast paced.
 
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Hello everyone,
Many of you know me already, and I'm pleased to see you again.
Many others do not and I'm glad to meet you all.
I've been back among the 'Temp for a week now, since hearing about the loss of our dear friend, Densetsu.
And in that time I've been getting to know some new names and personalities,
but most of all I've been observing.
Watching to see how our site operates these days.

A few words come to mind in describing how I feel about the current state of the 'Temp.
Disgusted.
Mortified.
Appalled.
Disappointed.
And these observations have caused a major shift in how I would normally recommend we act and react toward our populace.

Some of you will recall that I've always tried to be the sort of person to forgive transgressions.
I've argued for leniency and clemency while others howled for blood.
I've called for understanding when faced with 'tempers who are just too weird for words to describe.
I've asked for second or even third chances to be given to some who clearly didn't deserve them.

And now when I come back home
I find the forums overrun with idiocy.
Blogs describing one's masturbation habits,
newcomers making new threads every few seconds out of boredom,
meaningless petitions being shoved down our throats for no reason more than to make the participants feel like they're doing something noteworthy.

That's not to say that it's any more idiocy than there was before I left.
The problem is that there are so few good people to balance these others out, and give them an example of how to be decent members of our society. It no longer does much good to tell these newcomers to Lurk Moar, if everyone else is acting the same way.

For the longest time I thought it was a good thing that gamers had a less strict forum to frequent when they have questions that the ban-happy sites don't allow or when they want to mess around and have fun that other groups won't stand for, but I have to wonder if, by taking in these dregs of society, we've brought ourselves down to their level. And it seems to me that perhaps I was wrong for all that time to be so lenient and to ask for such mercy.

Perhaps we should be banning people for stupid questions.
Perhaps somewhere else would be a better environment for their shenanigans.
Perhaps it's time to begin weeding our garden properly.

If I'm wrong to think this, somebody tell me why.
I agree with most of this, but I think this nonsense should be allowed in the edge of the forum, b/c that's the whole point of edge of form. Sadly, this randomness on normal forums that aren't the eof is gonna get worse b/c its almost summer and people are gonna have more free time.
 

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I agree with most of this, but I think this nonsense should be allowed in the edge of the forum, b/c that's the whole point of edge of form. Sadly, this randomness on normal forums that aren't the eof is gonna get worse b/c its almost summer and people are gonna have more free time.

Somebody's found the point of why I posted.
 

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I blame the chans leaking into the forums once the memchunkhax2 got released.
This is exactly what happened with the 3ds section, that disgusts me.
this and /r/3dshacks cancer
 
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Hello everyone,
Many of you know me already, and I'm pleased to see you again.
Many others do not and I'm glad to meet you all.
I've been back among the 'Temp for a week now, since hearing about the loss of our dear friend, Densetsu.
And in that time I've been getting to know some new names and personalities,
but most of all I've been observing.
Watching to see how our site operates these days.

A few words come to mind in describing how I feel about the current state of the 'Temp.
Disgusted.
Mortified.
Appalled.
Disappointed.
And these observations have caused a major shift in how I would normally recommend we act and react toward our populace.

Some of you will recall that I've always tried to be the sort of person to forgive transgressions.
I've argued for leniency and clemency while others howled for blood.
I've called for understanding when faced with 'tempers who are just too weird for words to describe.
I've asked for second or even third chances to be given to some who clearly didn't deserve them.

And now when I come back home
I find the forums overrun with idiocy.
Blogs describing one's masturbation habits,
newcomers making new threads every few seconds out of boredom,
meaningless petitions being shoved down our throats for no reason more than to make the participants feel like they're doing something noteworthy.

That's not to say that it's any more idiocy than there was before I left.
The problem is that there are so few good people to balance these others out, and give them an example of how to be decent members of our society. It no longer does much good to tell these newcomers to Lurk Moar, if everyone else is acting the same way.

For the longest time I thought it was a good thing that gamers had a less strict forum to frequent when they have questions that the ban-happy sites don't allow or when they want to mess around and have fun that other groups won't stand for, but I have to wonder if, by taking in these dregs of society, we've brought ourselves down to their level. And it seems to me that perhaps I was wrong for all that time to be so lenient and to ask for such mercy.

Perhaps we should be banning people for stupid questions.
Perhaps somewhere else would be a better environment for their shenanigans.
Perhaps it's time to begin weeding our garden properly.

If I'm wrong to think this, somebody tell me why.
We're long overdue for a purge.
 

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If you're ever in the market for finding a couple people to help clean up and moderate specific sections (e.g. Wii U & 3DS, especially the 3DS homebrew dev forum, since those are by far the worst), I'm sure you can find some volunteers as well (and no, I'm not suddenly asking people to spam this thread to "volunteer".. :P).
 

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Guess it was just the influx of nintenyearolds once the 3ds and wiiu had free hack solutions, its gotten pretty bad.
There was just an 80 page gateway thread closed which was filled with 90% shitposting (img posts/memes), 5% cfw vs gw war, 5% legitimate on topic posts.
Once that was closed within a few mins, three more were opened in its place.

Alot of the users seem to have the idea that this is an image board/4 chan/reddit, and they can post eof tier shitposts all over the place. I do like your suggestion to start banning these users but the site does keep running off of ad revenue.
There is also the problem of alt accounts which was a recent problem until p1ng started dropping the ban hammer and sent a message. Maybe that is what is needed here too...
 

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You picked a somewhat unfortunate time to return, many of the greater issues are also within the last week or three.

Still
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Makes life far easier.
 
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