Hardware 3DS XL and 2DS kiosk units.. Can anyone tell me anything about kiosk units?

[impulseADH]

Hi,

I came into two kiosk units. One is a 3DS XL and one is a 2DS. They are on 7.1.0-6E (the 3ds xl) and 7.1.0-12E for the 2DS. What is it that stops them from running without the A/C adapter? Is it internal hardware that is different? (Also, not that I plan to do it but can this update from a standard system update?)

Obviously if I do update them it'll be to whatever E game updates to 9.0-9.2... any tips on those taken, as I am of course a U and not an E, these were just so interesting to me I nabbed them.

Any info whatsoever about kiosk units, turning them into normal units via using a gateway to set something, etc would be greatly appreciated.

Are these retail units and only act diff with a NFR cart in them? Can one use this and a GW card to run backups of games one owns?

Anything else to know about Kiosk units?

Kind Regards,

npt

 

[SockNaste]

Hi,

I came into two kiosk units. One is a 3DS XL and one is a 2DS. They are on 7.1.0-6E (the 3ds xl) and 7.1.0-12E for the 2DS. What is it that stops them from running without the A/C adapter? Is it internal hardware that is different? (Also, not that I plan to do it but can this update from a standard system update?)

Obviously if I do update them it'll be to whatever E game updates to 9.0-9.2... any tips on those taken, as I am of course a U and not an E, these were just so interesting to me I nabbed them.

Any info whatsoever about kiosk units, turning them into normal units via using a gateway to set something, etc would be greatly appreciated.

Are these retail units and only act diff with a NFR cart in them? Can one use this and a GW card to run backups of games one owns?

Anything else to know about Kiosk units?

Kind Regards,

npt

There is a warning saying it won't run without the main power unit. No matter what you do you will always need the A/C. (They weren't made for user-friendly playing)

 

[Ryccardo]

Are these retail units and only act diff with a NFR cart in them?

Nailed it, the vast majority of them are not dev consoles or the like, the magic comes from the game (autoboot enabled + home menu permanently blocked ingame or it would power off when trying display the launcher).

As for ignoring the battery, nobody tried to compare the hardware differences AFAIK!

 

[izy]

Nailed it, the vast majority of them are not dev consoles or the like, the magic comes from the game (autoboot enabled + home menu permanently blocked ingame or it would power off when trying display the launcher).

As for ignoring the battery, nobody tried to compare the hardware differences AFAIK!

mostly likely this is mainly due to the device being on permanent charge that the battery is dead

 

[YamiHoshi.nl]

Nailed it, the vast majority of them are not dev consoles or the like, the magic comes from the game (autoboot enabled + home menu permanently blocked ingame or it would power off when trying display the launcher).

As for ignoring the battery, nobody tried to compare the hardware differences AFAIK!

Well, it appears that many Wii U Demo Units out there are CAT-I Units (Wii U Test Units, suitable for public view).
CAT-I Units also come with System Config Tool, which is basically the DevMenu for Wii U.

However, in case of the 3DS, it's different.
These are just retail 3DS Units with a demo cartridge in them.
Demo cartridges often have the Home Button disabled, and normally autoboot, as long as the cartridge is inside the 3DS.
I have an MK7 Demo Cartridge myself, so I know how it works.

 

[NekoMichi]

Kiosk units are generally almost identical to retail units. Earlier models at game events didn't have the Home Button disabled and had things like DevMenu installed but that's been changed, now kiosk units don't have internal software installed and you won't be able to use the Home Menu when a demo is playing.

The unit itself has been re-wired so that it won't run without being connected to the stand. This is for two reasons; firstly it's so that the units constantly have power and won't run out of battery, and secondly it acts as a theft deterrent as stolen kiosk units won't function properly and have no resale value (except to collectors).

The demos you see are actually from special "Not for Resale" cartridges that cause the 3DS to autoboot them which is why you can't enter the Home Menu without ejecting the cartridge.

However, in case of the 3DS, it's different.
These are just retail 3DS Units with a demo cartridge in them.
Demo cartridges often have the Home Button disabled, and normally autoboot, as long as the cartridge is inside the 3DS.
I have an MK7 Demo Cartridge myself, so I know how it works.

I've seen a couple of those floating around on EBay, would you say it's safe to buy online?

 

[Potato hoarder]

Kiosk units are generally almost identical to retail units. Earlier models at game events didn't have the Home Button disabled and had things like DevMenu installed but that's been changed, now kiosk units don't have internal software installed and you won't be able to use the Home Menu when a demo is playing.

The unit itself has been re-wired so that it won't run without being connected to the stand. This is for two reasons; firstly it's so that the units constantly have power and won't run out of battery, and secondly it acts as a theft deterrent as stolen kiosk units won't function properly and have no resale value (except to collectors).

The demos you see are actually from special "Not for Resale" cartridges that cause the 3DS to autoboot them which is why you can't enter the Home Menu without ejecting the cartridge.

I've seen a couple of those floating around on EBay, would you say it's safe to buy online?

It would be safe if you wanted to get a 3ds that you need to have in constant charge. I don't see the value in having one besides it being a collectable. I haven't seen anyone who was able to hard mod it so it didn't need a constant charger. If you want to get one, go for it! Just know what you are spending money on.

 

[NekoMichi]

It would be safe if you wanted to get a 3ds that you need to have in constant charge. I don't see the value in having one besides it being a collectable. I haven't seen anyone who was able to hard mod it so it didn't need a constant charger. If you want to get one, go for it! Just know what you are spending money on.

I was thinking about NFR cartridges, though it would be cool to have a connected kiosk unit on my desk purely for decorative and collection purposes.

 

[Ryccardo]

With the metal, perfectly rectangular antitheft case?

 

[Potato hoarder]

I was thinking about NFR cartridges, though it would be cool to have a connected kiosk unit on my desk purely for decorative and collection purposes.

What's the price for those things? I wouldn't pay much more when I could get a fully functional one. If I got one, it would be for spare parts. If you have a decorative setup in mind, it could be pretty cool.

 

[Ryccardo]

Pretty high even for demos, never mind non-games like local Pokemon event server cards...

...I still wonder how a friend of mine got in 2005 (we were 9 back then) a demo cart of MKDS for that matter!

 

[Potato hoarder]

Pretty high even for demos, never mind non-games like local Pokemon event server cards...

...I still wonder how a friend of mine got in 2005 (we were 9 back then) a demo cart of MKDS for that matter!

I was wondering but are event Pokemon cards on the market!!! I was wondering about that back when I was a kid.

 

[Ryccardo]

"Market", they're not worth the price given there's save editing (and some of those cards have even been dumped)

 

[Potato hoarder]

"Market", they're not worth the price given there's save editing (and some of those cards have even been dumped)

Are the roms on the card on the Internet? If so, any idea where to download them? I've had no luck in my search (but haven't looked very hard)

 

[Ryccardo]

"[NDS]Deoxys_Distribution_2008[USA].zip" is the easiest to find

 

[duwen]

Are the roms on the card on the Internet? If so, any idea where to download them? I've had no luck in my search (but haven't looked very hard)

I've got dumps of quite a few of the pokemon nds distro carts.

 

[NekoMichi]

What's the price for those things? I wouldn't pay much more when I could get a fully functional one. If I got one, it would be for spare parts. If you have a decorative setup in mind, it could be pretty cool.

Between £25-100 per cartridge. Actually, I saw a listing for a kiosk under £500, it included a 3DS, 3DS XL, and the entire kiosk intact. Looks tempting but there's not enough room here to set it up

 

[Potato hoarder]

Between £25-100 per cartridge. Actually, I saw a listing for a kiosk under £500, it included a 3DS, 3DS XL, and the entire kiosk intact. Looks tempting but there's not enough room here to set it up

I saw some Pokemon shelfs from a GameStop for sale a while ago. Did the kiosk come with the stands as well?

 

[NekoMichi]

I saw some Pokemon shelfs from a GameStop for sale a while ago. Did the kiosk come with the stands as well?

It's the entire display kiosk:

 

[Potato hoarder]

It's the entire display kiosk:
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Holy shit
I thought it was just two consoles and thought you were being ripped off but wow, that looks cool. I'd buy it if I have room but I don't.