About the overheated 3DS homebrew & emulators forum

[SLiV3R]

I read that some of the greatest developers at gbatemp dislike the situation in the 3ds homebrew & emulators section. The "real" threads go down to second page in less than one hour. And there are 100s of threads about downgrading, cfw, hacks etc. Most of those stuff should really be in the cfw & flashcart section imo.


Personally I want to read about new homebrew and/or emulators in that forum. And I dont want to browse through 100+ of cfw threads.

What can be done with this problem? Or should something be done with all those"spam" threads?

 

[SLiV3R]

I came up with a possible solution. Why don't we start a new subforum. Called something like "CFW, hacks, entrypoints, downgrading etc."

By doing that we can also remove CFW from the flashcart & CFW section.


Then there would be 3 subforums instead of 2.

- Homebrew & emulators
- CFW, hacks, entrypoints, downgrading etc
- Flashcarts

That would help everyone involved! Or what do you think?

Edit: There are 25 threads on the first page in the homebrew & emulators section. Guess how many contains mainly homebrew & emulators? 25? 21? 15? 3?

This is written January 5th. It may change a little if you look tomorrow or next week. But the answer will still be obvious to anyone

 

[Reo]

There also needs to be a little more strictness about what goes where. Threads about downgrading and other questions shouldn't go into the "Homebrew Development & Emulators" subforum. Tutorials shouldn't be in the "Flashcards & Custom Firmwares" subforum.
I like your idea of having another subforum but it sounds like a general discussion forum so maybe it should have a simpler name.

 

[BORTZ]

I dont know what the rest of the staff thinks, but my personal opinion is that its already too much of a burden for people to post their topics in the right place as it is, and another subforum would only confuse the masses even more. However, I am not the end all for decisions like this.

 

[Plochan]

it is already winding down, give it a week-two and cfw downgrade threads will be few and far between.

 

[DinohScene]

Problem with Nintendo sections here is that it's filled with noobs and fools that flame and spam.
Not to mention people that want to pirate at all costs and want to have it done for them.

Tho having a subforum called "CFW & hacks & downgrading" would clear up a lot.

I can't imagine the horrors the staff has to undergo just moderating that section.
Saw an entire page of deleted replies the other day...

 

[p1ngpong]

This thread is a few days old and in the last few days I have moved dozens and dozens of threads out of the homebrew section into the CFW/tutorial/etc sections they should be in. The problem is n00bs being n00bs and not caring what section they post in and not having a clue where the appropriate place to post is. As Bortz said you could create as many new sections as you want these n00bs will still post in the wrong places. I even considered making a thread telling people to be more careful in what sections they post in but I didn't bother because I know the people at the heart of the problem would never bother reading it so it would just be a waste of my time.

Anyway the current flood of new users should hopefully calm down soon, there has already been a reduction in the craziness. Moving a thread only takes a couple of seconds so if you see something in the wrong place just report it and we will take care of it.

 

[SLiV3R]

This thread is a few days old and in the last few days I have moved dozens and dozens of threads out of the homebrew section into the CFW/tutorial/etc sections they should be in. The problem is n00bs being n00bs and not caring what section they post in and not having a clue where the appropriate place to post is. As Bortz said you could create as many new sections as you want these n00bs will still post in the wrong places. I even considered making a thread telling people to be more careful in what sections they post in but I didn't bother because I know the people at the heart of the problem would never bother reading it so it would just be a waste of my time.

Anyway the current flood of new users should hopefully calm down soon, there has already been a reduction in the craziness. Moving a thread only takes a couple of seconds so if you see something in the wrong place just report it and we will take care of it.

Ok. That sounds fair. I hope it will calm down, so my former favourite subforum (homebrew & emulators) will be something like it was during the last half of 2015. As it is today, I see only disorder and chaos

But, perhaps this problem is made up by me. Perhaps Homebrew hasn't the same definition as during the nds/psp days. Words do change their meaning/content over time..

 

[[Truth]]

It´s good to hear that moderators are doing their job by moving threads, often it looks like the forums are not moderated at all.

I´m also interested to know if there are any internal discussions about making moderation more strict, hand out warnings because of spamming and posting crap threads, delete threads and ban users.
I know it´s more work for you moderators, but in the long term i think it would make the forums much more enjoyable and useful information can be found quicker.
It´s a pain to read threads, that contain a catching headline, an uninformed and not up-to-date first post and 150 pages of spam, just to find a useful post on page 148.
I think being more strict helps a forum to teach their community some discipline, especially when their users are so young like on this forum.

 

[BORTZ]

There are multiple facets to the problem at hand, Truth. The forums are huge, and we cant sit here and read 147 pages of useless info, nor is it that easy to remove all of the off topic chatter at the same time. As for being more strict, I think that what we are going to have to be, but there is still the issue of some of the new members are young, rebellious, and simply dont care about the rules. Trust me, we are working on it. If something needs modded, report it, please.

 

[Jim~]

I would like to see a separate forum category specifically for help/support/questions. This would cut down on the clutter in the homebrew and flashcard/cfw forums considerably.

 

[Deleted User]

I would like to see a separate forum category specifically for help/support/questions. This would cut down on the clutter in the homebrew and flashcard/cfw forums considerably.

We have an Ask gbatemp section for all of the questions and stuff.

 

[Jim~]

We have an Ask gbatemp section for all of the questions and stuff.

Uhm... no we don't?

A forum specifically for user support and questions related to 3DS homebrew/hacks/flashcarts/cfw/downgrading/piracy would free up the main forums for actual content.

 

[Deleted User]

Uhm... no we don't?

A forum specifically for user support and questions related to 3DS homebrew/hacks/flashcarts/cfw/downgrading/piracy would free up the main forums for actual content.

Uhm... Yeah we pretty much do?
https://gbatemp.net/ask/3ds-hacking-questions/

 

[Jim~]

Uhm... Yeah we pretty much do?
https://gbatemp.net/ask/3ds-hacking-questions/

I had no idea this section of the site existed (and judging by the severe lack of questions, I don't think anyone else does either)

 

[Deleted User]

I had no idea this section of the site existed (and judging by the severe lack of questions, I don't think anyone else does either)

Yeah. I wish it was used a little more often so the main forum isn't flooded with clutter.

 

[Jim~]

I bet if it was a forum category, people would know about it and use it

 

[Ruby Gloom]

Problem with Nintendo sections here is that it's filled with noobs and fools that flame and spam.
Not to mention people that want to pirate at all costs and want to have it done for them.

Tho having a subforum called "CFW & hacks & downgrading" would clear up a lot.

I can't imagine the horrors the staff has to undergo just moderating that section.
Saw an entire page of deleted replies the other day...

I'm a regular in the 3DS hacking scene and I don't see a lot of spam. I especially don't see a lot of flame. ( Unless it gets deleted, obviously. ) But, I think there should be stickies for that stuff because it's an endless cycle of people posting their own threads for popularity. Like, " 1 thread is enough, shut the hell up." But, you can't just say that here. But, I wish they'd get the point.

 

[FAST6191]

I had no idea this section of the site existed (and judging by the severe lack of questions, I don't think anyone else does either)

It was fairly well used when it originally hit, following a hack the site was pared back and ask was lost (not that I really minded). It then became one of the more asked for features after that and it was brought back somewhat recently, seemingly to become one of the "asked for but ultimately not very used" forum features we see.

If http://gbatemp.net/new/ is to become the replacement for new threads ( http://gbatemp.net/find-new/threads?recent=1 ) search then I imagine it will become more travelled. Bonus is you can disable certain forums in that search so right now I am having a great time as I can keep up with the rest of the forums* and leave the non ROM hacking 3ds forums to fester.

*post C3 the thing seemed to explode and 8 hours was enough to render the new threads thing not able to go back far enough (and at times the first page of new threads spanned only some 20 minutes) and I had to resort to browsing forum sections, with this I can still see Monday morning.

 

[Deleted User]

I bet if it was a forum category, people would know about it and use it

Glad you found it anyway.