Hacking LET'S SPECULATE - Which exploit will GW Team use in next release(10.3 support)?

[Mazamin]

Ok, so I created this thread basically for the poll.
If you want explain your choice with a reply.

 

[Flame]

i think they use Soon Trademarked exploit... thats what

 

[Mrrraou]

They will use memchunkhax2 for sure. And they have the choice next:

• giving downgrading method
• using ntrcardhax

 

[Mazamin]

They will use memchunkhax2 for sure. And they have the choice next:

• giving downgrading method
• using ntrcardhax

So you should select multiple exploit I think

 

[yacepi15]

Without any doubt,memchunkhax2.

 

[Mazamin]

Without any doubt,memchunkhax2.

Please explain why you don't have any doubt

 

[Intronaut]

Without any doubt,memchunkhax2.

Yeh, but mchx2 only gives access to arm11 and gateway needs arm9 so they need an arm9 exploit

 

[TheZoroark007]

I think they will use memchunkhax 2.
What I'm sure about is that they won't use SNSHax since it only supports firmwares up to 10.1 and they claimed to have an exploid for everything up to 10.3 !

 

[NeoSlyde]

Yeh, but mchx2 only gives access to arm11 and gateway needs arm9 so they need an arm9 exploit

Dumbass!
They need just need arm11 kernel for downgrade

 

[yacepi15]

Please explain why you don't have any doubt

SNSHax: Only for NEW 3DS and does less things that memchunkhax.
A similar exploit/2 exploits/a different exploit: With memchunkhax they afaik have all they want,and if they had a much different exploit,they would announce it for xmas.
NTRCardHax: afaik,it needs a PassMe and i dont look gateway selling them.
ARM9LoaderHax: I don't know what's this,can anyone explain? Thanks.

Sorry for my trash of english
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EDIT: SNSHax only works on 10.2 or less and they promise 10.3.

 

[Mazamin]

SNSHax: Only for NEW 3DS and does less things that memchunkhax.
A similar exploit/2 exploits/a different exploit: With memchunkhax they have afaik they have all they want,and if they had a much different exploit,they would announce it for xmas.
NTRCardHax: afaik,it needs a PassMe and i dont look gateway selling them.
ARM9LoaderHax: I don't know what's this,can anyone explain? Thanks.

Sorry for my trash of english​

This makes sense, I only think that the GW card can be used as a PassMe

ARM9LOADERhax allows one to gain complete control over the system very early in the boot process on the N3DS (and probably O3DS). In other words, anything with kernel access can downgrade, use CFW, use emunand (even emulating the newest N3DS firmware), etc. And it's completely impossible for nintendo to patch. It also weans you could probably add an emergency console like the Wii's BootMii
-It's possible to directly hijack the ARM9 without getting kernel access first by using a custom-made DS gamecard. (source reddit)

 

[yacepi15]

This makes sense, I only think that the GW card can be used as a PassMe

ARM9LOADERhax allows one to gain complete control over the system very early in the boot process on the N3DS (and probably O3DS). In other words, anything with kernel access can downgrade, use CFW, use emunand (even emulating the newest N3DS firmware), etc. And it's completely impossible for nintendo to patch. It also weans you could probably add an emergency console like the Wii's BootMii
-It's possible to directly hijack the ARM9 without getting kernel access first by using a custom-made DS gamecard. (source reddit)

If they can,even if its unnecessary,they will use the Red Card as a part of the exploit to avoid the CFWs. (And not only like a DRM in the "Boot GW mode" button.)

 

[The Real Jdbye]

I voted more than one exploit, because it sounds to me like they intend on full support for 10.3 and not just downgrading, which means it either uses memchunkhax2 combined with ntrcardhax (the Gateway cart FPGA is upgradable and could possibly emulate a DS cart) or memchunkhax2 combined with some other ARM9 exploit. They could have had an ARM9 exploit all along but with no way to exploit it on newer firmwares as they had no ARM11 exploit. ARM11 kernel is needed to gain access to ARM9, therefore more than one exploit.

This makes sense, I only think that the GW card can be used as a PassMe

ARM9LOADERhax allows one to gain complete control over the system very early in the boot process on the N3DS (and probably O3DS). In other words, anything with kernel access can downgrade, use CFW, use emunand (even emulating the newest N3DS firmware), etc. And it's completely impossible for nintendo to patch. It also weans you could probably add an emergency console like the Wii's BootMii
-It's possible to directly hijack the ARM9 without getting kernel access first by using a custom-made DS gamecard. (source reddit)

arm9loaderhax is n3DS only because arm9loader doesn't exist on o3DS. It's an additional layer of security added on the n3DS, that ended up not being so secure at all and actually making the system less secure.

 

[Mazamin]

arm9loaderhax is n3DS only because arm9loader doesn't exist on o3DS. It's an additional layer of security added on the n3DS, that ended up not being so secure at all and actually making the system less secure.

Please read: "and probably O3ds"

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Please read: "and probably O3ds"

And I'm telling you it will definitely not work on O3DS.

 

[nero99]

Dumbass!
They need just need arm11 kernel for downgrade

There's no need to be a jerk, NeoSlyde.

 

[Mazamin]

And I'm telling you it will definitely not work on O3DS.

Let's hope that a workaround will be found

 

[yacepi15]

Let's hope that a workaround will be found

The last time,in the 9.2 update,a few people bought their GW carts before the launch for avoid stock problems. If its incompatible with O3DS/N3DS,they must say it in the message.

 

[Intronaut]

Dumbass!
They need just need arm11 kernel for downgrade

And do you think gw will allow us to downgrade again after all the CFW stuff?

 

[Deleted User]

And I'm telling you it will definitely not work on O3DS.

I would not be so sure.
Placing a new3ds firm0 partition in the old3ds one will just not boot becouse of the different hardware, but look that the arm9loader is prior from kernel9 booting, and as long as it's signed it still is safe.
So yeah it's a messed up solution, but it *could* be exploited on old3ds too.