We need to start warning rude members and giving out suspensions

[funnystory]

It is absolutely disrespectful when a new member posts on this community and instead of getting welcomed they are bombarded with smart aleck responses to their very simple question. If 9.3+ can't be hacked for example, it takes the same amount of time to type. "Unfortunately,there is no release date on when the hack will be available."As opposed to writing "You fucking moron why don't you read the stickies you fucking idiot" This is completely unprofessional and shys people away from posting on this forum which in turn slows down the website traffic and ends up costing the website owner money.

You are NOT a special cookie because you read the tutorials and someone else didn't, You are NOT an expert hacker so please quit acting with the elitist attitude that you yourself developed the exploit. We need enforcement of these guidelines to assure that we have a welcoming and friendly community. Those are just my two cents.

 

[DinohScene]

It's something that can't really be stopped.
Noobs will always post that kind of question and idiots will always bait on them.

Best is just to report it to the staff and let them deal with it.

 

[funnystory]

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Ive been here since 2008, there is absolutely no benefit to the community to being rude to members like the video you just posted. It has no comedic value to the discussion and I find it disrespectful that you are trying to derail my thread with that nonsense video. What does it contribute to the point at large?

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It's something that can't really be stopped.
Noobs will always post that kind of question and idiots will always bait on them.

Best is just to report it to the staff and let them deal with it.

"Noobs" need nothing more than to be pointed in the right direction. The rudeness/mockery is downright insulting and unnecessary. Nobody gains absolutely anything out of insulting new members,all it causes is flamewars and an overall lack of cohesion within the community.

 

[Blaze163]

While I agree with the general principle, on a practical level there's really not much you can do about it. The internet will always be a digital Mos Eisley; a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Something I wish modern 'feminists' and 'social justice warriors' would understand. You'll never stop the tidal wave of bile that people spew onto the net every second of every day, so you have two choices;

- Either develop a taste for said bile and recognise it's not so much about you as it is about the lack of proper attention in the abuser's own life necessitating said acting out in the hope that Senpai will notice them, because in the modern world any attention is good attention, apparently.

- Or just switch the internet off and have proper conversations with people in which chances are they're probably thinking the same things you see on the net, they're just hiding them better because insulting people at point blank range always carries an inherent risk of getting punched in the face.

 

[bowser]

Meh, some people deserve it. They read the stickies and still ask anyway. As if that will magically solve their problem.

 

[yuyuyup]

The problem is new people that don't understand how a forum works. For example, oh look a new topic, "NEW FIRMEWARE EXPLOITED ALREADY!!!" and you click in the topic, "hey guys, wondering if there is a new exploit for the brand new firmware yet?" Which gets a million people excited and then immediately let down.

 

[funnystory]

While I agree with the general principle, on a practical level there's really not much you can do about it. The internet will always be a digital Mos Eisley; a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Something I wish modern 'feminists' and 'social justice warriors' would understand. You'll never stop the tidal wave of bile that people spew onto the net every second of every day, so you have two choices;

- Either develop a taste for said bile and recognise it's not so much about you as it is about the lack of proper attention in the abuser's own life necessitating said acting out in the hope that Senpai will notice them, because in the modern world any attention is good attention, apparently.

- Or just switch the internet off and have proper conversations with people in which chances are they're probably thinking the same things you see on the net, they're just hiding them better because insulting people at point blank range always carries an inherent risk of getting punched in the face.

What you said is completely irrelevant to the point I am making. Not even on the other "ISO" site do people get mercilessly bullied like they do on here because they don't know a simple step. People on here get made fun of when they brick their nintendos for example. I post on some pretty vile forums but when new members of the community get bashed, it just screams utter immaturity and a complete lack of respect for GBAtemp and the foundations in which it stands for. If you didn't create the hack the ELITIST attitude is completely unfounded. Anyone with an IQ of 90 or less could successfully install any of the hacks on this site. The immaturity only sets a future precedent that being rude is an acceptable behavior on these forums. I am not a feminist by the way, I am just saying that it comes off as insecure and immature when members get trolled for bricking their hardware. This is one of the only gaming forums where I see this type of reprehensible behavior on a day in and day out basis. If you don't want to help someone do NOT comment on their post. Do you really need to stoop so low as to get a small EGO boost over an anonymous person's shortcomings?

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The problem is new people that don't understand how a forum works. For example, oh look a new topic, "NEW FIRMWARE EXPLOITED ALREADY!!!" and you click in the topic, "hey guys, wondering if there is a new exploit for the brand new firmware yet?" Which gets a million people excited and then immediately let down.

In that particular instance it is completely justifiable that people would be angry, however I think it is disrespectful that people get made fun of when they brick their console. I've been modding consoles since the original xbox, and when I was modding my 3ds 4 months ago I had people ALMOST praying I would brick my console telling me I didn't know what I was doing. I still to this day in 10+ years haven't bricked a single console,so what I am saying is why can't we be a tad bit more friendly at pointing the new users in the right direction and hopefully integrating them into our community. This makes the website owner more money and in turn provides a better quality service for the community.

 

[Margen67]

It is absolutely disrespectful when a new member posts on this community and instead of getting welcomed they are bombarded with smart aleck responses to their very simply question. If 9.3+ can't be hacked for example, it takes the same amount of time to type. "Unfortunately,there is no release date on when the hack will be available."As opposed to writing "You fucking moron why don't you read the stickies you fucking idiot" This is completely unprofessional and shys people away from posting on this forum which in turn slows down the website traffic and ends up costing the website owner money.

Then good riddence to the idiots that can't read.

You are NOT a special cookie because you read the tutorials and someone else didn't, You are NOT an expert hacker so please quit acting with the elitist attitude that you yourself developed the exploit. We need enforcement of these guidelines to assure that we have a welcoming and friendly community. Those are just my two cents.

What you said is completely irrelevant to the point I am making. Not even on the other "ISO" site do people get mercilessly bullied like they do on here because they don't know a simple step.

The only reason newbs get called out like this is because they don't read. Solution? Simple. Read the stickies.
Questions should only be posted if it's not an easily found answer.

 

[NightsOwl]

I completely agree, honestly. A lot of people have a bad attitude towards newbies not knowing something. Instead of replying with a smart-ass remark, why not take the easier and less dickish route and just give them a link to the Hacking FAQ that's usually stickied. Nothing else, just paste that link and move on.

I've been on GBATemp for a while, only posting about a hundred-ish times because quite frankly, It seems a bit unwelcoming nowadays.. I don't remember it being like this when I first joined and was active.

That's my two cents on it.

 

[funnystory]

Then good riddence to the idiots that can't read.



The only reason newbs get called out like this is because they don't read. Solution? Simple. Read the stickies.
Questions should only be posted if it's not an easily found answer.

You are completely missing the point,even if other people do not read why do you feel the omnipotent need to reprimand them? Next time you trip and fall maybe the whole store should start laughing at you for being too "stupid" to watch where you are walking. Or maybe when you were a child you should have been better at catching the football. Solution? Simple. Catch the football next time you butter fingers nerd. You can use the same allegory for absolutely anything. Maybe when you make mistakes in life someone will call you out on it and ridicule you and you will understand why this kind of behavior is detrimental to society or in this case the community, the likeliness of that happening though is nil because in the real world most people possess the manners to keep their negative thoughts to themselves. Humility is a virtue, and quite frankly you are in no position to feel superior to anyone here since you did not create any of the exploits, you merely installed them.

 

[Margen67]

You are completely missing the point,even if other people do not read why do you feel the omnipotent to reprimand them?

Because they're too lazy to read the stickies and by association waste people's time with useless posts.

Next time you trip and fall maybe the whole store should start laughing at you for being too "stupid" to watch where you are walking. Or maybe when you were a child you should have been better at catching the football. Solution? Simple. Catch the football next time you butter fingers nerd. You can use the same allegory for absolutely anything. Maybe, when you make mistakes in life someone will call you out on it and ridicule you and you will understand why this kind of behavior is detrimental to society or in this case the community, the likeliness of that happening though is nil because in the real world most people possess the manners to keep their negative thoughts to themselves. Humility is a virtue, and quite frankly you are in no position to feel superior to anyone here since you did not create any of the exploits, you merely installed them.

Posting isn't something you can do on accident.
It's not about elitism, or a superiority complex. A (hypothetical) noob was lazy and people are calling him out for it. End of story.
Also, the internet isn't a hugbox. People aren't always going to say positive things.

 

[funnystory]

Because they're too lazy to read the stickies and by association waste people's time with useless posts.

Posting isn't something you can do on accident.
It's not about elitism, or a superiority complex. A (hypothetical) noob was lazy and people are calling him out for it. End of story.
Also, the internet isn't a hugbox. People aren't always going to say positive things.

You were too lazy to exercise and therefore failed to catch the football/learn the proper technique and in return you got bullied because of it throughout your formative years(hypothetically speaking) . The internet isn't a hugbox but this is a GAMING forum,and at that even some of the most vile places on the internet don't come close to the constant bickering/insults that get hurled around day in and day out on here. I post on many different forums and it isn't comparable how much people get torn apart here over nothing. Why do you feel like you need to call out someone you don't even know? Simple,to feel better about yourself.

There is no reward other than that. Because in your mind your worth as a person is greater than the person that bricked their 3DS,you gain ABSOLUTELY nothing from insulting/berating them. So why do you do it? To feel better about yourself plain and simple. This is a GAMING forum.You don't even see this kind of behavior on bodybuilding forums or weight loss forums,legit YOUR behavior is reprehensible and PETTY. Insulting someone's character over bricking a 3DS is about as petty as you can get.The worst thing is that the people that do this, if they posted a picture of themselves, they would get torn a new one and any sense of omnipotence or sense of superiority would vanish faster than the speed of light. Go on the reddit/rateme section and you will quickly realize that this conduct is absolutely disgusting that you will insult someone over something as miniscule as what they do with their gaming console.

 

[Margen67]

Why do you feel like you need to call out someone you don't even know? Simple,to feel better about yourself.

No, it's to make them (potentially) stop.
You're also calling out people you don't know. Hypocrite much?

 

[Pedeadstrian]

What a surprise. A thread about flamewars has turned into a flamewar.

 

[Minox]

No, it's to make them (potentially) stop.
You're also calling out people you don't know. Hypocrite much?

There's a huge difference between calling people out and insulting them. Nobody deserves being abused - not even people that didn't act in the manner some regulars would want them to.

 

[gamesquest1]

honestly i think part of it is to actually teach these people that reading is a good thing....in your example of someone bricking their 3DS........i there was a guide freely available and stickied and they still bricked......lets be honest they deserve a bit of stick....not pure insults, but enough to make them feel a bit more cautious next time and do the research, otherwise you will just get the same people bricking over and over again....which is worse than light hearted mockery, i can agree some people take it way too far i.e "read the stickies" vs " fucking read the stickies you moron or fuck off"

basically if i stood at a lampost waiting for a bus and someone laughed at me i am big enough to see i did something dumb and can accept their advise even if they laugh as they give it......i would be upset if they called me a douch bag and told me to go fuck myself

 

[Minox]

honestly i think part of it is to actually teach these people that reading is a good thing....in your example of someone bricking their 3DS........i there was a guide freely available and stickied and they still bricked......lets be honest they deserve a bit of stick....not pure insults, but enough to make them feel a bit more cautious next time and do the research, otherwise you will just get the same people bricking over and over again....which is worse than light hearted mockery, i can agree some people take it way too far i.e "read the stickies" vs " fucking read the stickies you moron or fuck off"

Telling someone to read and/or look at the FAQs can be done without any insulting. There's little teaching to be done by insulting people.

 

[gamesquest1]

Telling someone to read and/or look at the FAQs can be done without any insulting. There's little teaching to be done by insulting people.

yeah thats the point i was making, the OP seems to be suggesting simply telling people to read is insulting, its not....adding abusive comments is, which is where it goes to far

 

[bowser]

Yes, the forum has become a bit more intolerant these days.

Laughing at people that bricked their consoles is disheartening. I think such posts should be removed. Leaving them up makes others think it's ok and encourages more people to follow suit.

Insulting people that have a different opinion than yours is immature. But then, some people state their opinions in a way that just begs to start a flame war. Just look at Guild's posts.

Finally, not all noobs that post without reading first get lambasted. If they're polite and acknowledge their noobness they get helpful replies. It's the ones that just post one-liners who come across as arrogant and get whipped.

 

[funnystory]

No, it's to make them (potentially) stop.
You're also calling out people you don't know. Hypocrite much?

You aren't this person's parent tell them that bricking their 3ds was wrong. That is your superiority complex talking. How does it personally affect you that someone else ruined their 130$ gaming console, read the post? Don't like it? Let it be. The person is already going through enough grief and they do not need anymore from you.

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honestly i think part of it is to actually teach these people that reading is a good thing....in your example of someone bricking their 3DS........i there was a guide freely available and stickied and they still bricked......lets be honest they deserve a bit of stick....not pure insults, but enough to make them feel a bit more cautious next time and do the research, otherwise you will just get the same people bricking over and over again....which is worse than light hearted mockery, i can agree some people take it way too far i.e "read the stickies" vs " fucking read the stickies you moron or fuck off"

basically if i stood at a lampost waiting for a bus and someone laughed at me i am big enough to see i did something dumb and can accept their advise even if they laugh as they give it......i would be upset if they called me a douch bag and told me to go fuck myself

Who are you to judge to say they deserve a bit of "stick" their stick is that they are out 200$.