Nintendo filed patent for gaming console without disc reader

[stomp_442]

Something don't seem right about that, why the EU rules allow the resale of digital downloads? Does that work with all digital software including that on disc? I remember reading once that somebody bought AutoCAD at a garage sale and couldn't register it because it was already registered by somebody else, would that fly in the EU?

 

[FAST6191]

Right now most of the laws are a mish mash of court rulings, specific country laws and other things. Most places seem to be more about a token offering (think the various free means of filing your taxes over there -- they offer them but they are not that nice) and it not being the basis for suing somebody.
It had kind of existed for years anyway -- some accountants I know used to do quite a bit with bankruptcy in companies where they would buy out a portion of the company, make it a paper company and allow the licenses to exist on in a new company's building.

Autodesk were actually involved in one of the bigger legal cases in the US on the matter http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/10/06/software_ownership_ruling/ , more recently in the US there was also http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/19/supreme_court_protects_first_sale_doctrine/

Or if you actually meant why allow resale I would ask why not allow it.

 

[XDel]

I'd crap is they beat the Retro VGS to the punch and released a cart based system before them...
...that could also support digital if people were into that.


Me personally, I like to either have a cart that won't likely go bad and I can hold in my hand and drool over along with the Box art and included paper work...
...or at least have something on Disc that I can back up...

But wait, we still have not fully hacked the WiiU so cart it is. If my WiiU games go bad, I have to buy another to replace it, I can't just send my old scratched disc to Nintendo.
Or like digital, if your system goes bad and you buy a replacement... after the system has eached the end of it's life cycle, then all those old titles are no longer available for download on your old system.

 

[Online]

The new3ds hasn't even begun it's life cycle though and I'm pretty sure nintendo has a line of n3ds exclusives in development which is pretty crafty on nintendo part and it shows they're playing the long game by slowly rendering the old3ds obsolete despite the lack of disparity in hardware capability and power between the models.

The nx(name subject to change) is more than likely a home console. I would have loved if it was a smartphone hybrid called Smartboy like the ones in those concept art pictures. That would bode well with the consumers in japan where things have gone full pachinko and mobile but I also doubt people would be prepared to buy a second inferior version of a smartphone they already own.

A nitty smartphone would be cool as hell though especially if they took full advantage of design to give it an edge, in comparison to the streamline luxury adult tailored smartphones that dominate the market today, a nitty smartphone with beloved retro design elements would be nice. I'd support it.

 

[TecXero]

The new3ds hasn't even begun it's life cycle though and I'm pretty sure nintendo has a line of n3ds exclusives in development. The nx(name subject to change) is more than likely a home console. I would have loved if it was a smartphone hybrid called Smartboy like the ones in those concept art pictures. That would bode well with the consumers in japan where things have gone full pachinko and mobile but I also doubt people would be prepared to buy a second inferior version of a smartphone they already own.

A nitty smartphone would be cool as hell though especially if they took full advantage of design to give it an edge, in comparison to the streamline luxury adult tailored smartphones that dominate the market today, a nitty smartphone with beloved retro design elements would be nice. I'd support it.

The N3DS is just a new model of 3DS, similar to the DSi to the DS. The DSi was only around for a short time before the 3DS. As for the NX, who knows. I wouldn't mind a 3DS console, I kind of miss being able to easily play my handheld games via my home theater at home. I still have my Super Game Boy.

 

[Online]

The N3DS is just a new model of 3DS, similar to the DSi to the DS. The DSi was only around for a short time before the 3DS. As for the NX, who knows. I wouldn't mind a 3DS console, I kind of miss being able to easily play my handheld games via my home theater at home. I still have my Super Game Boy.

The wiiU's gamepad would've been great if it had 3ds game support but that ship has long set sail! But maybe a cheaper and more better alternative is in the works, we'll just have to see! Handheld/home console crossover gaming is the dream.

 

[TecXero]

The wiiU's gamepad would've been great if it had 3ds game support but that ship has long set sail! But maybe a cheaper and more better alternative is in the works, we'll just have to see! Handheld/home console crossover gaming is the dream.

I don't think they would have done something like that with the Wii or Wii U. The Super Game Boy and Game Boy Player both connected through proprietary ports. If they would have had a DS player for the Wii or a 3DS player for the Wii U, they would have had to connect through USB, Bluetooth, or WiFi. All three of those are quite common and wouldn't be too hard for people to create a driver or program that could possibly allow dumping of their cartridges, modifying save files, or even playing their games through things other than their systems (considering they always include the handheld's respective hardware to play the game). At this point, where digital has become more prominent, it makes sense for it to be a full system, anyway.

 

[Deleted User]

What if this isn't a next gen Nintendo Console. What if this is simply a 3DS player or a Wii U mini with a 3DS slot?

3DS player is impossible when USB2.0 is the Wii U's only form of physical addon ports.
Massive oversight on both the Wii and Wii U's designs.

 

[LightyKD]

3DS player is impossible when USB2.0 is the Wii U's only form of physical addon ports.
Massive oversight on both the Wii and Wii U's designs.

I don't see how that's impossible. The diagram clearly shows a console with a game card slot. Nothing in the diagram rules out 3DS gaming. This isn't a add-on for the Wii U but a totally new machine. Also, the Wii U wouldn't need a add-on for 3DS gaming. Proper emulation, he's add-on, no.

 

[FAST6191]

3DS player is impossible when USB2.0 is the Wii U's only form of physical addon ports.
Massive oversight on both the Wii and Wii U's designs.

Wonder if they could abuse the same thing that provides wireless video for the tablet.

....Wait I just suggested wireless as an option. I will show myself out.

 

[TecXero]

Wonder if they could abuse the same thing that provides wireless video for the tablet.

....Wait I just suggested wireless as an option. I will show myself out.

Knowing Nintendo, I wouldn't dismiss them choosing to use wireless for some addon. Let's not forget the Wii U still didn't have a built in wired ethernet port, expecting consumers to use WiFi for gaming.

 

[Sakitoshi]

Halo lags way more than Splatoon. I've rarely encountered lag in Splatoon. Oceanic gamer BTW.

Have you even been killed by the played you killed a second ago?? or inksploded by only one or two shoots of a weapon that needs 4 or 5 shoots to kill?? if you haven't the you are playing a different game. in one occasion I even heard how I splatted a player only to see him revive from his ink as a kraken. in other occasion it took me like 10 direct hits of the Aerospray MG(with 4 you splat anything even with defense up) to splat an specific player, of course after I splatted him I died by him.

Lagtoon should be the proper name, specially around japanese players(they seem to generate lag on purpose to take advantage). I'm sure isn't my connection as I can play other games no problem(even smash).

I don't understand why the cost of a digital download is so high. Disc manufacturing and the packaging, shipping the disc, and retail store expenses. Cut out all those expenses and the cost of the game should be a lot lower. Not to mention second hand resale would be eliminated forcing anybody that wants have the game to buy the game. Just lowering the cost of a digital copy of a game would go a long way to promoting digital purchases.

Maybe because the money you spend manufacturing discs goes to maintain servers instead??
you have to buy lots of Terabytes, generate redundant data(RAID 5 is a rule of thumb, which reduces the space available by 1/5 per array aprox.) and keep everything running 24/7 in optimal conditions(this includes specialized personnel and refrigeration of the servers which is very expensive).
But I'm not defending why they keep the prices up even after years of the game launch date.

 

[LightyKD]

MORE PATENTS!!

MORE NINTENDO PATENTS - IN-GAME CHAT, LOW-POWER MODES, SOUND SAMPLING & MORE

27 August, 2015 by rawmeatcowboy | Comments: 5
In-game chat

- makes use of an external device
- includes off-screen chat interface

An exemplary game system includes a monitor for displaying a game image or a television program, and a terminal device having a camera, a microphone, and a loudspeaker. When a user is playing a game or viewing a television program by using the monitor, another user can have chat by using the terminal device.

Hardware system with multiple operating modes

- depends on the amount of power the user wants to consume
- includes a full-power mode, an eco-friendly mode, and a very low-power mode that disables all network features

An information processing system is capable of communicating with an external apparatus via a network. The information processing system is capable of operating in at least three operation modes including: a first mode; a second mode, which consumes less power than the first mode; and a third mode, which consumes less power than the second mode and where the communication via the network is not performed.

Real-time changes to the environment

- based on players' interactions with in-game hindrances
- shared over a network
- could involve scaling the difficulty of certain segments of a game based on how well/poorly the general playerbase is doing

Using sound as a sampling mechanism for reading compressed data

- particular data sequence could correspond to a particular audio signal
- small sampling of that audio signal would be enough to identify the data

Source: http://gonintendo.com/stories/241388-more-nintendo-patents-in-game-chat-low-power-modes-sound-samp

 

[WiiCube_2013]

Also, what if it is a Wii U revision with no disc drive and more storage space?

Nintendo is not that stupid.

 

[LightyKD]

Nintendo is not that stupid.

Can we say, Game Boy Micro???

 

[WiiCube_2013]

Can we say, Game Boy Micro???

That was like a farewell to Game Boy. And the Wii Mini.. 'cause they thought people would've been interested in yet another Wii model

 

[LightyKD]

That was like a farewell to Game Boy. And the Wii Mini.. 'cause they thought people would've been interested in yet another Wii model

YES! The Wii Mini was absolutely horrid!. It wasnt the mini factor but the fact that almost every good feature was ripped out of that console. I still want to burn every last one of them in a fire!!!!

 

[Zeriel]

I need to own my stuff, so if this is a digital only system I will not support it.
The only benefit to digital would be if we get amazing sales like with steam,
then we could do a compromise, but knowing Nintendo that's sure not to
happen.

 

[LightyKD]

I need to own my stuff, so if this is a digital only system I will not support it.
The only benefit to digital would be if we get amazing sales like with steam,
then we could do a compromise, but knowing Nintendo that's sure not to
happen.

That's a fair statement. It's one of the major reasons why I supported OUYA a ton. It's easier to buy games on a all digital console when the games are less than 25 dollars. This new Nintendo console needs a massive price drop like somewhere in the 40 dollar range for major titles, 35 for some third parties and most games around 25 or less.

 

[KingVamp]

I hope scale difficulty is an option. Anyway, I don't think A Wii U mini/slim marketed as a budget console/stream console is a bad idea.