Homebrew TubeHax is able to change Fw?

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Smealum posted on Twitter showing the tubehax demonstration. On the bottom screen of the 3ds it says "Change Firmware Version". So well it be able to downgrade your 3ds?
 
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The way Smea typically makes his hacks, he separates each one for different firmwares. He could indeed make a universal version, one exploit works with all, but that would just leave a buggy mess. So he makes seperate ones based on different firmwares, based on his testing. That's why there's the firmware selection on the Ninjhax 2.0 site.

It's just for safety reasons.
 

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The "Change Firmware" button is probably just something that changes what payload to use. He's got a basic page/exploit that will work on all firmware, but the rest is loaded based on what firmware you have to keep things efficient and stable. So the "change firmware" button just loads a different set of ROP chains. Useful incase you updated firmware and need to change the payload TubeHaX is using.

Unlike Cubic Ninja where you chose the firmware version on your PC or other device to get the correct QR code payload, with TubeHaX that can all be done within the YouTube app. That's basically what that "Change Firmware" button does.
 
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Ok, It's basically Homebrew without any CIA installations, CFW's, ROM Loading, etc. Just basic user-end stuff that doesn't go beyond ARM11's area of accessability.
We might be able to work around that when we get the source of ironhax/tubehax though (hopefully).
 

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There's also different levels of kernel access. Arm11 kernel access would allow you to alter app permissions. (Thus enabling downgrading). However running unsigned apps at the system level requires Arm9 access. Of coarse having Arm9 access means you have the ability to gain control over the entire system. Arm9 is the boss of Arm11 and Arm11 is the boss of other apps. Arm9 tells Arm11 what it's allowed to do, then Arm11 tells games and apps what they are allowed to do within the parameters that Arm9 allows it to. Simple as that. :D

Userland is working within the confines of what access the system already has given you and you'd need a Arm11 exploit to gain full access to permissions and stuff. Though in some cases you can exploit other apps to get added access instead, but it's more limited then Arm11 access.

In most cases you need an Arm11 exploit to try and exploit Arm9 as normal games and such can't talk to Arm9 directly.

I don't think there is any exploits that could exploit Arm9 directly without Arm11 at the moment. The Arm9 exploit used more recently (firmlaunchhax) wasn't actually patched until 9.4 I believe (or 9.5. I don't recall exactly right now). But Arm11 (memchunkhax) exploit was patched in 9.3 closing off the path to Arm9 and full control.
 
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We might be able to work around that when we get the source of ironhax/tubehax though (hopefully).
I agree! Especially with it all working on 9.9.0 without any extra hardware.... (and with TDVS being able to access a few of the AM services.) Makes us wonder....:unsure:

EDIT: I like where this thread is going... Seriously! :D
 
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I agree! Especially with it all working on 9.9.0 without any extra hardware.... (and with TDVS being able to access a few of the AM services.) Makes us wonder....:unsure:

EDIT: I like where this thread is going... Seriously! :D
I really hope there will be a say to install cias... For ehm... "Learning purposes" :D
 

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So usigned CIAS are games right? (as in MM3D or Animal Crossing etc.)
If so I'm really hyped. Can't wait to ''backup'' games I ''already own''
 

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So usigned CIAS are games right? (as in MM3D or Animal Crossing etc.)
If so I'm really hyped. Can't wait to ''backup'' games I ''already own''
Well that and DLC, apps from the official SDK such as DevMenu and SaveDataFiler, and also Homebrew. Don't quite understand why you're so "hyped" though.
 
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Uhh, notice how the homebrew launcher on ninjhax 1 crashed when you pull the gamecard out... Makes me think, Is Ninjhax 2.0 sorta kinda running as it's own app? It may not say "Homebrew Launcher or whatever in the friends list", but, even region three/four/loader does the same thing, still says you're on cubic nina when youre not.
And to load gamecarts, you need kernal access, (from what I know). So, a CIA installer or even a cfw doesn't look THAT far.
Now, if the source code for Ninjhax 2.0 gets put out, it won't be that hard to maybe change some of the code for the regionfree launcher and turn it into a rom loader or even cfw.

(Made this post without making a different thread). I'm so proud of myself! XD
 

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@smealum just posted how to install tubehax
 

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