Jaywalking is kind of a stupid law.

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If the road is clear to cross then why have an officer pass a ticket? I know, it's a stupid rule but it still isn't a very good one, imo. During the time the officer's spending passing a ticket to a jaywalker he/she could've taken care of a real crime.

Btw, I've always crossed the roads around UK, Spain, Portugal, France and other European countries and never had a problem doing so.
 

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In the small city my university is in: Lincoln, all roads are virtually empty by about 10:30 pm until near 6
I could fall asleep in the road and possibly wake up unharmed.

(England btw)
 

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That's the good thing about European countries. Police isn't doing this bs here, while in US.. they do. x_x
I'm not familiar with streets in other countries, but major metropolitan areas, even the suburbs of them, will have tons of cars going pretty much 24/7. I under the hyperbole from the people in the UK, but where I live, even in the middle of the night, there are cars going. Jaywalking is just dangerous, plain and simple. Have you ever been hit by a car? I have (I wasn't at fault, of course, some drunk bitch was) and it's not a pleasant experience.

Anyways, if you're stupid enough to jaywalk in front of a police officer, then you deserve a ticket. The fact that the officer saw you means that the streets weren't clear, or they were parked right next to you or in your view across the street. Either way, it's a stupid move.
 
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Yeah the US has some odd laws and approaches to "safety"*, or at least an approach that could be classified as schizophrenic. I always forget about jaywalking when I am over there, though it is perhaps not as bad as forgetting to look left first when crossing tram lines in Amsterdam, and it does get me odd looks/reminded by my relatives.

*the absolute oddest one for me is the dislike some seem to show for wearing seatbelts. Absolutely mind boggling to me and most people I speak to about it.
 

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Tho the German police will do stuff too.

Well, that's unneeded.

I'm not familiar with streets in other countries, but major metropolitan areas, even the suburbs of them, will have tons of cars going pretty much 24/7. I under the hyperbole from the people in the UK, but where I live, even in the middle of the night, there are cars going. Jaywalking is just dangerous, plain and simple. Have you ever been hit by a car? I have (I wasn't at fault, of course, some drunk bitch was) and it's not a pleasant experience.

Anyways, if you're stupid enough to jaywalk in front of a police officer, then you deserve a ticket. The fact that the officer saw you means that the streets weren't clear, or they were parked right next to you or in your view across the street. Either way, it's a stupid move.

Whenever I see a car, bus, truck, tractor or whatever I let it pass first, look both sides and then cross. I'm not some crazy guy in a rush to cross the street knowingly of the risks. :P

Yeah the US has some odd laws and approaches to "safety"*, or at least an approach that could be classified as schizophrenic. I always forget about jaywalking when I am over there, though it is perhaps not as bad as forgetting to look left first when crossing tram lines in Amsterdam, and it does get me odd looks/reminded by my relatives.

*the absolute oddest one for me is the dislike some seem to show for wearing seatbelts. Absolutely mind boggling to me and most people I speak to about it.

Even though train tracks are highly controlled I tend to look both sides so I'm absolutely sure there's not a train in sight.
 

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People jaywalk over here all the time. It's gonna be your fault if you get hit by a car.

the absolute oddest one for me is the dislike some seem to show for wearing seatbelts. Absolutely mind boggling to me and most people I speak to about it.
I see this too much. Wish people would wear their seatbelts.
 
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People jaywalk over here all the time. It's gonna be your fault if you get hit by a car.


I see this too much. Wish people would wear their seatbelts.

I know a store owner who drives without his seatbelt but if only that was the only issue. He's a menace to other drivers and just pretty much everyone surrounding him because he seems to be mentally dysfunctional and can't keep a precise eye on the road ahead.

I'll never take a ride with him again 'cause I was afraid he'd crash us both.
 

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I don't jaywalk, but I did once because my dog was too strong to redirect. No traffic at the time, so it was fine. I also did it as a kid, only once I think, and it was one of those things where you're with friends and you feel like breaking the law a bit. No police came or anything. With the shit police officers do in this country, I'm surprised it hasn't covered every city in the States. Mine over here aren't nationally known, so to speak. At least not yet. The beef I have with them is that they took my two external hard drives, laptop, and a desktop over as "evidence" when it had nothing to do with the crime in question. They didn't even take the power cords, I still have them. It's been almost 3 years, and I've contacted them before and never really got a proper response on whether or not I'll get the items back.
 
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Most laws and bylaws these days are just to generate revenue. The police are turning into another source of income.

Probably the dumbest around here (no idea if it's elsewhere) is being fined about $170 for not wearing a seatbelt. Completely retarded. If someone wants to risk their life at no real danger to anyone else, let them. Such a cash grab.

though i've never seen or heard of anyone fined for jaywalking (I mean i've heard of the law, just never it being imposed). I guess it depends how starved the police department is in that particular city.
 

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Most laws and bylaws these days are just to generate revenue. The police are turning into another source of income.

Probably the dumbest around here (no idea if it's elsewhere) is being fined about $170 for not wearing a seatbelt. Completely retarded. If someone wants to risk their life at no real danger to anyone else, let them. Such a cash grab.

though i've never seen or heard of anyone fined for jaywalking (I mean i've heard of the law, just never it being imposed). I guess it depends how starved the police department is in that particular city.
I have to agree with you, stupid cashgrab law everywhere I go, especially in big cities.
 

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Most laws and bylaws these days are just to generate revenue. The police are turning into another source of income.

Probably the dumbest around here (no idea if it's elsewhere) is being fined about $170 for not wearing a seatbelt. Completely retarded. If someone wants to risk their life at no real danger to anyone else, let them. Such a cash grab.

though i've never seen or heard of anyone fined for jaywalking (I mean i've heard of the law, just never it being imposed). I guess it depends how starved the police department is in that particular city.

I genuinely do not get the dislike of seatbelts thing that various North Americans have going on. Then again at least in the US the guns, no sex and no booze thing would feed back into that schizophrenic thing I was one about earlier.

Also you are a risk to others in the vehicle and seatbelt bruises vs a particularly good example of Newton's first law involving squishy faces and bodies does rather increase the medical costs faced by either the insurance company or the taxpayer depending upon where you find yourself, to say nothing of the unpleasantness of having to scrape/squirt the remains out of the vehicle.
 
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I've become very stingy when it comes to jaywalking when I was a child, and with good reason - I was jaywalking when a car I didn't see coming hit me and sent me flying. Mistake - should've waited for the green light. By the time I regained consciousness, I was surrounded by strangers and my father was came shortly to pick me up from the pavement, sick with worry. Not only I've flown a considerable distance, I've also been out for a substantial amount of time, or so I presume, as the place where I lived was on the other end of the street. I have little recollection of what happened, I don't even remember being hit, I just remember waking up. I've since moved to the UK and here nobody gives a flying duck and jaywalks non stop, so I seem far too careful to everyone around here.
I genuinely do not get the dislike of seatbelts thing that various North Americans have going on. Then again at least in the US the guns, no sex and no booze thing would feed back into that schizophrenic thing I was one about earlier.

Also you are a risk to others in the vehicle and seatbelt bruises vs a particularly good example of Newton's first law involving squishy faces and bodies does rather increase the medical costs faced by either the insurance company or the taxpayer depending upon where you find yourself, to say nothing of the unpleasantness of having to scrape/squirt the remains out of the vehicle.
I'm an opponent of mandatory seatbelt use simply because I believe that people should be allowed to do whatever they please as long as they do not create a hazard for others, even if it puts them in harm's way. Since not wearing a seatbelt only works to the driver's own detriment and possible demise in the event of an accident, it should be exclusively the driver's business whether he/she wear it or not. The same applies to motorcycle helmets - the helmet only protects the driver, not others, so it should be the driver's choice whether to wear it or not. Naturally both would have to be reflected in the level of insurance the driver pays - not using safety measures does equal a higher probability of death or injury, but nevertheless it should be an option available to the driver. As for other people in your vehicle, they all have free will and can make an educated decision on whether or not they want to be passengers of a driver who's not wearing a helmet or a seatbelt - simple.
 
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As someone who has walked most places their entire life, you get real tired of dealing with designated crossing points real quick. There are some places I've walked where there weren't sidewalks and I just walked in the middle of the road listening for traffic from behind, and watching for it from the front. There are some roads where I refuse to jaywalk, of course. I'm not into playing a game of real life Frogger across a busy highway like some people seem to be willing to do. At the same time, I've learned to be careful, and what it takes to make the most convenient moves for myself without greatly inconveniencing others. I've goofed a few times and have nearly gotten hit, but thankfully it hasn't been too often.

Funnily enough, the closest I've come to being hit was when I was crossing while the lights were in my favor. The walk symbol was up for me to go, and somebody thought they could round the corner faster than I could take two steps off the curb. They weren't correct, but lucky for both of us, I paid attention and pulled back before taking that second step so that they barely avoided connecting with me. That is the one time I've flipped a car the bird, and boy did they deserve more.

A small story as well: last year my roommate and I were returning to our dorm room after doing some shopping. We decided to jaywalk across the street from the parking lot, as we always did because the closest legal crossing was about a block away from the building entrance. As we're crossing (it was completely open), a cop that had passed us before we stepped off the curb actually did a u-turn at the nearest intersection, turned back around, and the last we saw of him, he had parked in front of our dorm building and was getting out of his car. All we can figure was that he was going to ticket us for jaywalking since he clearly wasn't in emergency mode and we were the only ones that did anything noticeably illegal. Thankfully, we were able to duck into a side door, go up a few floors to our room, and never heard anything more about it. I would have been so pissed if my first ticket for anything was because I jaywalked just because a cop needed to fill their quota.
 

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Did you go to the doctor, Foxi4?

I understand freedom, but safety needs to enter the picture too and I think seat belts and jaywalking, at least on a busy road, fits that. Fine prices are a whole different matter.
 

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