Hacking Is it possible to downgrade from 9.7 on o3DS?

[Kionea]

Not expecting a positive answer, but is it in any way possible? I'm not afraid to open it and mess around if I have to. Got a new one and migrated so this one is pretty much useless.

And if I can't, is there anything else cool I can do with it?

 

[MeisterFenster]

Yes if you have a nand backup. No if not.

 

[marksteele]

mmmm if your not interested in picking up a sky cart then a 9.7 O3DS makes a great paperweight, that's about it right now

 

[Deleted User]

Can't you do it by screwing around with the motherboard?
http://3dbrew.org/wiki/Hardware

 

[Kionea]

S'what I thought. What could I do with Sky on 9.7? To my understanding >9.2 is where all the funs at andany higher is pretty limited.

Can't you do it by screwing around with the motherboard?
http://3dbrew.org/wiki/Hardware

Thats what I was thinking, and I don't know anything about the 3ds, but it would make sense that I can't do it without a nand backup to revert to.

 

[Deleted User]

Thats what I was thinking, and I don't know anything about the 3ds, but it would make sense that I can't do it without a nand backup to revert to.

I don't know anything about the 3DS either, tbh.
Maybe if you got a NAND backup from someone else and then unencrypted it, and then encrypted it to work with your 3DS, if that's even how the encryption on NAND dumps works.

 

[Kionea]

I don't know anything about the 3DS either, tbh.
Maybe if you got a NAND backup from someone else and then unencrypted it, and then encrypted it to work with your 3DS, if that's even how the encryption on NAND dumps works.

From what I understand, every nand image is unique. Works on a console by console basis so one consoles nand image won't work on another. As for the encryption...I don't know much about encryption in general much less 3ds encryption, but I am pretty sure that isn't how it works.

 

[Deleted User]

From what I understand, every nand image is unique. Works on a console by console basis so one consoles nand image won't work on another. As for the encryption...I don't know much about encryption in general much less 3ds encryption, but I am pretty sure that isn't how it works.

Yeah, I kinda thought maybe it'd be somewhat like that.

 

[marksteele]

if YOU made a nand backup of YOUR system at 9.2 the hardmod will restore it. Otherwise there's nothing you can do with a hardmod

 

[Kionea]

That's what I figured. If I may ask to those more knowledgeable than me, there's obviously some big hurdle to cross on OFW past 9.2. What exactly is it? What was changed? I know that the current "hacking" method is a kind of exploit and not actually a hack per se, so is it just that it got patched and there was really nothing there to begin with?

 

[Typhin]

I don't know anything about the 3DS either, tbh.
Maybe if you got a NAND backup from someone else and then unencrypted it, and then encrypted it to work with your 3DS, if that's even how the encryption on NAND dumps works.

If we had the ability to break Nintendo's encryption and to encrypt things with their keys, we would have the ability to do a LOT more than we currently can. We wouldn't have to mess with emuNands or exploits or anything else, we could just create bootloaders and install CFWs directly to sysNand and everything else.

That's what I figured. If I may ask to those more knowledgeable than me, there's obviously some big hurdle to cross on OFW past 9.2. What exactly is it? What was changed? I know that the current "hacking" method is a kind of exploit and not actually a hack per se, so is it just that it got patched and there was really nothing there to begin with?

There was a bug that was fixed after 9.2. The current exploits rely on that bug to get inside the system. (I don't know the exact details of the 9.2 bug, though. I know the one in 4.x was in System Settings, in the part that handles the DS Profile.) Until another exploitable bug is found in the newer versions, we're stuck with 9.2 being the latest exploitable version. Unfortunately, finding the bugs is a combination of luck and skill, as well as being a race against time (as each time a new version is released, there's the question of whether to keep looking or to start over on the new version), so there's no telling when or even if one will be discovered.

 

[Kionea]

Interesting. I assume cracking the encryption is near impossible unless the keys get leaked like with ps3?
If that's the case, what are the chances that we could one day have freedom and support on the level of the wii?
Seems like much tighter of a system than that was.