Hacking Restore Retail Cartridge Card2 saves

[Thornhill33]

Hi,

Do you know if it is possible with GW menu to restore retail cartridge card2 saves (.3DZ format) ?

My son have a 4.5 3DSXL with 7.0 emunand, but don't have a GW red card.

My goal is to let him play retail PokemonX (Card2 + 6.x KeyY saves) with 7.0 Emunand (in order to keep 4.5 Sysnand).

But, as Emunand saves won't be compatible with 6.x+ Sysnand saves due to 6.x KeyY, I would like to be able to backup (-> .3DZ) and restore emunand saves with GW menu, just in case my son shares his cartidge with a friend with 6.x+ sysnand 3DS (which will erase emunand saves due to 6.x KeyY).

I found many tutorials for Card2/3DZ saves, but no tutorial or confirmation for 3DZ restore, so I wonder if GW restore is just for Card1/.SAV or is able to handle Card2/.3DZ also.

 

[gamesquest1]

nope you cant restore card2 saves, just have to tell him not to lend it to anyone

 

[piratesephiroth]

Emunand saves? Doesn't Pokemon XY use a .sav file on the SD card when played on Gateway?

 

[gamesquest1]

Emunand saves? Doesn't Pokemon XY use a .sav file on the SD card when played on Gateway?

nope he is playing a retail card in classic mode....so has broken 6.x save encryption on his cart....if its used on a proper updated console it will prompt him to delete the save....all retail cards save to the card its playing from in classic mode even card1 games

 

[piratesephiroth]

nope he is playing a retail card in classic mode....so has broken 6.x save encryption on his cart....if its used on a proper updated console it will prompt him to delete the save

ah yeah...
I guess he can extract the save from the dumped rom but there's no way to put it back there.

 

[Thornhill33]

Thank you all, that's what I feared

 

[piratesephiroth]

Thank you all, that's what I feared

Actually there's a way for your son to play Pokemon XY, if you use the CFW.

It's a bit complicated to get it working, and has that minor annoyiance of not booting sucessfully everytime ( that will be fixed sooner or later) but you can install the game + updates and it will work fine on his 4.5 system without needing a Gateway.

The only requirements apart from the 4.5 3DS are a DS flashcart that works on the system, a SD card at least 4GB big (the NAND copy takes almost 1GB and Pokemon XY takes nearly 2GB) and of course a wifi connection.

 

[Thornhill33]

Actually there's a way for your son to play Pokemon XY, if you use the CFW. It's a bit complicated to get it working.

I guess you mean with CFW + CIA files, but currently it's way too complicated and unstable for a kid.
But, yes, it elmininates the risk of save erase on retail cartridge.

 

[DryTaste]

The gateway save backup/restore utility doesn't work with card2?

 

[DRWS]

You can't use the Gateway tools to backup\restore card2 saves, but Powersaves can. It will work fine for backup\restoring your emunand cart save. It just won't be able to apply cheats since Datel's servers can't read the save.

 

[drfsupercenter]

It would actually be useful to see some homebrew made for this purpose, I've been interested in doing this sort of thing as well (but I don't know how to code, haha)

Dumping CARD1 saves and restoring them is easy, but CARD2 is another story. I've used the ROM dump feature to backup the entire cartridge, including the save data, and I'm able to extract the save using the cart2sav tools, I can even play the dumped ROM as a 3DZ and let it overwrite the saves as I progress in the game... but then of course there's no way to get that data back to my real cartridge.

Theoretically it should be possible for someone to make a tool that uses the MSET exploit to restore saves, similar to how the ROM decrypter works, just open DS profile and it'll read your CARD2 game and ask for a file to backup/restore

Any coders want to make this happen?

 

[gamesquest1]

It would actually be useful to see some homebrew made for this purpose, I've been interested in doing this sort of thing as well (but I don't know how to code, haha)

Dumping CARD1 saves and restoring them is easy, but CARD2 is another story. I've used the ROM dump feature to backup the entire cartridge, including the save data, and I'm able to extract the save using the cart2sav tools, I can even play the dumped ROM as a 3DZ and let it overwrite the saves as I progress in the game... but then of course there's no way to get that data back to my real cartridge.

Theoretically it should be possible for someone to make a tool that uses the MSET exploit to restore saves, similar to how the ROM decrypter works, just open DS profile and it'll read your CARD2 game and ask for a file to backup/restore

Any coders want to make this happen?

if gateway allowed people to use .cia files in classic mode save data filer could be used to restore the save......you could probably use the CFW to run save data filer to restore card2 saves actually....but it would mean pissing about setting that up just to restore a save to a cart if you dont already have it set up

 

[drfsupercenter]

if gateway allowed people to use .cia files in classic mode save data filer could be used to restore the save......you could probably use the CFW to run save data filer to restore card2 saves actually....but it would mean pissing about setting that up just to restore a save to a cart if you dont already have it set up

Ah, I haven't actually done anything with save data filer yet since my GW-compatible 3DS is in limbo at the moment, the post office is being slow to deliver it back

The nice thing about having a launcher.dat version though is that it doesn't need to modify your data at all, it's basically "portable"

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm a bit anal about what shows up in my play history

 

[gamesquest1]

Ah, I haven't actually done anything with save data filer yet since my GW-compatible 3DS is in limbo at the moment, the post office is being slow to deliver it back

The nice thing about having a launcher.dat version though is that it doesn't need to modify your data at all, it's basically "portable"

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm a bit anal about what shows up in my play history

use a different SD with no wifi settings set up on it

or you could actually just build a spoofed version that shows up as a legit game

 

[drfsupercenter]

That would be interesting... the only custom thing that shows up in mine right now is PlayCoinSetter and I'm hoping for a way to erase that from my play history, since my primary 3DS is still under warranty and Nintendo would freak if they saw that LOL

(I just do system transfers between the warrantied one and my emunand, that way I can hack the play coins, play some ROMs and then transfer back)

 

[gamesquest1]

That would be interesting... the only custom thing that shows up in mine right now is PlayCoinSetter and I'm hoping for a way to erase that from my play history, since my primary 3DS is still under warranty and Nintendo would freak if they saw that LOL

(I just do system transfers between the warrantied one and my emunand, that way I can hack the play coins, play some ROMs and then transfer back)

yeah you should be able to just use the banner and icon etc from a different game and change the unique ID to match, then any logs would just be tied to that game instead of logging dev apps

but really i dont think people with a 4.x console would want to send it in for warranty as from what i have read they just send back refurbed consoles most of the time and update the FW even if they don't swap the console itself

 

[drfsupercenter]

Someone want to make a version of PlayCoinSetter that shows up as Mii Maker or something?

Anyway, having a launcher.dat version means it's usable by more people, the .cia stuff only works if you have Gateway hardware

 

[hippy dave]

if gateway allowed people to use .cia files in classic mode save data filer could be used to restore the save......you could probably use the CFW to run save data filer to restore card2 saves actually....but it would mean pissing about setting that up just to restore a save to a cart if you dont already have it set up

Hmm hadn't thought about using SaveDataFiler from CFW, maybe that could let me transfer the (Card1) save from Luigi's Mansion.... :strokes chin: Guess trying it would give me something to do while we wait to see if GW do enable CIA in classic mode.

 

[quantumboy]

Is there any reason why gateway is preventing cia files from being installed in classic mode, or is it simply a matter of them not working in classic mode?

 

[piratesephiroth]

Is there any reason why gateway is preventing cia files from being installed in classic mode, or is it simply a matter of them not working in classic mode?

Maybe they forgot to add support, or simply didn't care to.