Kanye West is one of the greatest music artists of ALL TIME

[1stClassZackFair]

What artist is ABLE to release music that resonates with the people?

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Every person I've seen at school who listens to Kanye are idiots. I'm not exaggerating or trying to make Kanye's fans look bad. I'm just telling it like it is. I listen to Deftones on a daily basis and I do like rap, but I'm not a fan of Kanye at all.

 

[assassinz]

If he was a great artist I would buy one of his albums for sure. But I see no reason for spending money on his music.

 

[PolloDiablo]

No, it's not.

 

[Domination]

I'm actually really really in love with Kanye's music right now, although I haven't actually gotten very deep into his discography. Some of you might remember me as being a bit of a hipster oddball in music taste, but I find Kanye's stuff amazing. I didn't really listen to rap (because of the much dreaded "DAE rap more like (c)rap right lmao XDDD" defener phase), and I absolutely hate the big classic rap artists like Tupac and Wu Tang Clan, I've tried listening to them multiple times but I still hate their music, but I absolutely love Kanye. One of my biggest peeves in music is the production of the album, and holy shit does Kanye have great production. MDBTF had shitloads of amazing production. He also reinvents himself every single album - from early Kanye to 808s then to MBDTF and Yeezus - and that is something that is very worthy of praise.

I also don't really care about lyrics (well most rap artists don't really mean anything in the face of the vocabulary king Aesop Rock) and the whole "struggling gangsta hood life" troupe seemed so trite and overused. But Kanye has some pretty cool lyrics like Monster that talks about the media's portrayal of him and stuff like New Slaves. That said, I don't really care about the lyrics unless they are really good so whatever.

And not only that, Ye actually has a very broad taste in music and knows how to use his broad taste. I mean, who would have thought to get fucking Bon Iver on a rap album and pull it off so well. He's pretty respected and people like Bon Iver and Jack White are actually excited to work with him, Bon Iver even talked about how great of a guy Kanye was when they were working together. He's a pretty cool guy really, despite his whole over-inflate ego persona.

 

[VMM]

"Rap is crap" is indeed an opinion, but so is "Justin Beiber is the best singer ever" - you have to realize that just because it's an opinion doesn't mean that it's legitimate, some opinions are "crap".

There are good rap songs out there, lots of good hip-hop artists/rappers popped up over the years and you not liking the genre because it's "crap" is a personal preference, not objective fact.

We're talking about tastes, there is no such thing as objective facts.

 

[PJM]

I haven't read the entire thread, I will just assume it's a bunch of Kanye hate.
As unpopular as my opinion will be, I would have to agree with soulx. I've been a fan since his first album.
His second album released when I was living on my own in Europe, and it was just mesmerizing to listen to - had a very different sound to it thanks -in part- to Jon Brion helping on production.
More recently with 808s & Heartbreak, and My Beautiful Dark Twisted fantasy, I've been loving the more introspective and vulnerable side of him, but even without that, the production on the tracks are enough to carry the albums.
As for Yeezus, I think it's garbage and I just can't listen to it, but hey, he had a good run, and artistically it is hard to top him, at least in similar genres, I won't claim to know much about music outside rap/hip hop, but I think there really is something special about his music

 

[Ericthegreat]

I'll just leave these here.

 

[The Catboy]

Opinions are not facts.

 

[Hells Malice]

The fact this thread is made by Soulx just makes it so much funnier to me.

Soulx of the past was way better than this soulx.

They both suck equally imo. At least this version doesn't spam the USN forum.

 

[Thirty3Three]

The fact this thread is made by Soulx just makes it so much funnier to me.



They both suck equally imo. At least this version doesn't spam the USN forum.

Hating on his opinion is one thing, but hating on him is another. Let's keep things clean. (Or at least as clean as it can be when rap's involved )

 

[1stClassZackFair]

This is music.

 

[Rise]

Todays Rap:


Atleast they told a good story in the early days.

 

[w0dash]

If you dont know it yet, the first Freshmen Adjustment mixtape is worth a listen, especially My Way, Home and Hey Mama.

 

[FAST6191]

This is not the first time I have heard someone claim a commercial rapper to be the best in the game, and probably not the last.

Commercial as in out for fame, glory, and attention. The man never stood for a thing, and never innovated a thing. As far as I see, he's another johnny come lately riding on the coat tales of those who came before him, and who most have forgotten. Then again, what's shocking? The world glorifies shallow posers does it not?

None of that would seem to preclude being good, or possibly even lessen the probabilities of being good enough to note it.

As for Mr West there are far worse options, however I doubt I will remember him in ten years. That said when it comes to rap/hip hop I am probably only slightly less specific in my tastes than I am when it comes to electronic music. Mainly that I do not care for bragging about riches and that does seem to be a rather popular theme.


Also thanks Mr Thirty3Three for the giggles.

For some reason I feel like linking up

 

[XDel]

None of that would seem to preclude being good, or possibly even lessen the probabilities of being good enough to note it.

As for Mr West there are far worse options, however I doubt I will remember him in ten years. That said when it comes to rap/hip hop I am probably only slightly less specific in my tastes than I am when it comes to electronic music. Mainly that I do not care for bragging about riches and that does seem to be a rather popular theme.


Also thanks Mr Thirty3Three for the giggles.

For some reason I feel like linking up

I dunno, being a seasoned musick lover, that covering the classics such as Mozart, old Folk songs, old blues, jazz, Sinatra, on up to Pink Floyd, The Legendary Pink Dots, Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, Psychic TV, Ministry, Skinny Puppy, Circulatory System, Pizzicato Five, and on and on and on, I guess I've just became kind of anal about music in general. What it is singing about, what it is being used to promote and so on and so forth. I love musick for the sake of musick, and aside of the image created for stage shows (ala operas, rock operas, Alice Cooper, and the like), it really gets under my skin when musick merely become a vehicle to elevate one's self ego, shallow image, liberal politics, or to keep the youth and adults alike arrested in psychological, mental, and spiritual development.

 

[FAST6191]

it really gets under my skin when musick merely become a vehicle to elevate one's self ego, shallow image, liberal politics, or to keep the youth and adults alike arrested in psychological, mental, and spiritual development.

Other than it probably defying Sturgeon's law by having even less favourable percentages is there something in particular about espousing liberal points of view in a song that does not apply to all the many other various political mindsets?

 

[gman666]

Kanye West stopped being good a while ago, and especially now that he isn't producing as much. Also, those who are hating on rap as a whole just haven't heard GOOD rap music.

 

[BORTZ]

I cant help but laugh at the opinions in this thread as a whole. But then again, most of the music I find tolerable is either metalcore or the kind of dubstep that peels paint from walls.

 

[Thirty3Three]

Don't tell me this isn't amazing. He just goes out to play some guitar on Christmas Eve with his good pal, Glen Hansard, and he gets everyone to crowd around him. Damo's a legend.

 

[osirisjem]

I like almost every kind of music.
I really like Iron Maiden and Jewel.
I'll listen to anything and like almost any kind of music other than country.

soulx - I think he's an interesting artist.

Most people only like their type of music ... so *automatically* hate Kanye West.

I like Black Skinhead:



Is he one of the greatest of his time ? Probably too early to say. I'll say he has lots of staying power in an era it's tough to be anything other than a flash in the pan.