US agrees to pay $50m after 'piracy' of software
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Technically not piracy, more of a case of using licensed software more than originally planned. Piracy would (in my opinion) include getting the software from illegal (=not the original seller/owner) sources and using it.
I can't wait until we can pirate things with 3D printers--and then some corporate entity claims what was printed is theirs.
So for every 18 users, only 1 had an official license? Wow...that's...freakin' HUGE.
I have no idea why there are brackets around piracy in the article. It can't get much more piraty that this.
It amazes me that apptricity only found out because a US official accidentally said the words "thousands" on a presentation. Don't they have a way of activating their software that keeps a record somewhere?
back in the day i worked in many places that shared one OS , till they got busted and just bought multiple machines with bundled OS's as it was cheaper than the license.
Piracy would (in my opinion) include using a boat to hijack a shipment of software discs via force or threat of force. No boat? Then it's not piracy!
finally the shoe is on the other foot i thought i'd never see the day the US Government get slammed by their own legislation DMCA at it's finest but i bet capital hill will make an amendment to it now crooked bastards
I am sad that we live in a world where a "License to Install" is a thing but a "License to Kill" remains limited to fiction.
Thanks, Obama.
Thanks, Obama.
Poor US military, can not handle the pirate life.
You need to think outside the box. There are all those hot air balloons, space ships and aeroplanes going unmolested.
after all the US tried to do to stop piracy and they were doing it themselves. oh the irony!
Probably should have worded that out better. Sure this is software piracy, but not the same as in a case of using BitTorrent or another form of p2p software to download the stuff from "unofficial sources". i.e. Not the "traditional" piracy touted around.
Still good to see the people getting paid for the software as it's kinda focused on military uses only. Technically anyone can use it, but it's not really the most useful application for the average Joe.
"Apptricity called for $224m (£137m) to be paid to cover costs."
"The settlement of $50m falls some way short - but in a statement the company said Apptricity would spend the sum on expanding the company."
Guess they wanted to charge 224m but 50m was more then enough, I know you normally ask for more when bargaining, but think of it this way:
$244,000,000/9000 = $24888.88 - Who charges that for a program? (other then autodesk, Epic Games, and Crytek)
$50,000,000/9000 = $5555.55 - more understandable for a government program but even this for a program is waaaay too much.
but since the government paid them for 500 licenses, going by the price they wanted it means the government probably already gave them $12,444,000, this bring up the question: Just because the person you are dealing with can afford it, should you charge them the most you possibly can? And when are you just asking for more then your program can ever be worth? Also remember that they cant say they gotta adjust the price due to piracy if it has no use by anyone but the buyer. (Tho in this case they could have lol.)
(I would have done the same thing, but thats not the point )
"The settlement of $50m falls some way short - but in a statement the company said Apptricity would spend the sum on expanding the company."
Guess they wanted to charge 224m but 50m was more then enough, I know you normally ask for more when bargaining, but think of it this way:
$244,000,000/9000 = $24888.88 - Who charges that for a program? (other then autodesk, Epic Games, and Crytek)
$50,000,000/9000 = $5555.55 - more understandable for a government program but even this for a program is waaaay too much.
but since the government paid them for 500 licenses, going by the price they wanted it means the government probably already gave them $12,444,000, this bring up the question: Just because the person you are dealing with can afford it, should you charge them the most you possibly can? And when are you just asking for more then your program can ever be worth? Also remember that they cant say they gotta adjust the price due to piracy if it has no use by anyone but the buyer. (Tho in this case they could have lol.)
(I would have done the same thing, but thats not the point
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At first, I thought you were vastly exagerating... One billion a day?!
But I checked on wikipedia and it turns out you under-estimated the US military expenses. I saw 682 billions per year. That's 1.86 billion a day. So you're right, 50 millions is just spare change.No wonder USA has such a huge debt.
It's standard practice in lawsuits, it's what you do, you ask for a ridiculously huge amount of money and then haggle and settle down for the actual amount you are hoping to get. They know it, the government's lawyers knew it, the judge knew it, it's common practice. $50 million was maybe even more than what the company was going for, but if they had sued for that amount in the first place they would have ended up with way less.
At first, I thought you were vastly exagerating... One billion a day?!
No wonder USA has such a huge debt.
Seeing that I live halfway across the world from the US, I'd say me estimate was pretty okay ;p
Still nearly 2 billion a day is outrageous.
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