The "Start" Button - Replaced for the Newest Consoles

[urbanman2004]

"START" I wouldn't have gone this far without u [while sarcastically shedding a tear]

 

[Arras]

I won't miss the button itself, but I'll miss screens with a nice animated background and a "Press START" message.

 

[Dork]

What's the point in getting rid of them? Who the fuck thinks less input is good in anyway?

 

[Veho]

What's the point in getting rid of them? How the fuck thinks less input is good in anyway?

They have been renamed, not removed. There's a same amount of input.

 

[codezer0]

My problem with them being removed is in no small part to the fact that then there's no clear-cut way to pause/resume the game besides maybe using the home button, if the game in particular is compatible with it.

Using the home/guide button on older games might do the same thing essentially, but what about those kinds of games that actually did use a start button? And/or required it for entering cheats? Removing it seems silly then.

 

[Tom Bombadildo]

My problem with them being removed is in no small part to the fact that then there's no clear-cut way to pause/resume the game besides maybe using the home button, if the game in particular is compatible with it.

Using the home/guide button on older games might do the same thing essentially, but what about those kinds of games that actually did use a start button? And/or required it for entering cheats? Removing it seems silly then.

That's nice and all, except they're not being removed. They've been replaced by the Options button on the PS4, and the Menu icon-y thing button on the XBone.

 

[codezer0]

Yea, see... given the placement of it on the PS4, Options does not translate into Start for me. It is in the location I expect the select button to be. The problem I have with the default layout of the PS4 controller is that the start button's location was replaced by share your most recent inane event to [insert social media network here]" button.

At the least the menu icon on the Xbox one controller at least appears to be in the correct location for me to adjust to.

 

[Tom Bombadildo]

Yea, see... given the placement of it on the PS4, Options does not translate into Start for me. It is in the location I expect the select button to be. The problem I have with the default layout of the PS4 controller is that the start button's location was replaced by share your most recent inane event to [insert social media network here]" button.

At the least the menu icon on the Xbox one controller at least appears to be in the correct location for me to adjust to.

Uhh...sorry wut? It's on the right, the same place every other Start button has ever been.

Spoiler

 

[Deleted-236924]

R.I.P Konami code.....

up up down down left right left right b a

Yup, can still use it.

Well have you ever tried using just your phone's touch screen to play Super Mario Brothers or Pilotwings? After all, as long as functionality is retained who actually cares about the number of buttons, right?

Because functionality is definitely retained, right?

 

[codezer0]

Uhh...sorry wut? It's on the right, the same place every other Start button has ever been.

Spoiler

Huh... every other preview of the controller showed it on the opposite side. Then again, I'm just still mad at someone thought it was a bright idea to make that into an actual function on the controller, like their market is the same kind of people that take like 500 selfies a day and upload them to fakebook and tweeter and myface and all that nonsense. Nobody I know of ever wanted that feature on their gaming console... so I'd like to know what numbskull at sony thought we did?

 

[Ryukouki]

I do admit that it was my fault as well. I should have done more research on the matter and claim the responsibility for the problems in the discussion thus far. That error of being completely removed has since been rectified. And to be clear, they have not been removed completely.

 

[Foxi4]

Huh... every other preview of the controller showed it on the opposite side. Then again, I'm just still mad at someone thought it was a bright idea to make that into an actual function on the controller, like their market is the same kind of people that take like 500 selfies a day and upload them to fakebook and tweeter and myface and all that nonsense. Nobody I know of ever wanted that feature on their gaming console... so I'd like to know what numbskull at sony thought we did?

You're saying it as if you've never done something you found extraordinary in a video game or encountered a funny glitch or easter egg that you wanted to share with your friends but couldn't because hey, nobody records their gameplay footage 24/7. Now you can, and at a single press of a button too, a couple presses if you want to edit the footage.

There's literally a couple of seconds between "you laughing your pants off at a contorted, mangled body in Fallout 4 clipping through the walls and looking morbidly funny" and your friend "doing the exact same thing", I think the feature's cool and in the age of "Let's Play's" and other such shows it sort of begged to be implemented.

 

[vayanui8]

RIP Start and Select. I will miss you as many will

 

[Gahars]

Nobody I know of ever wanted that feature on their gaming console... so I'd like to know what numbskull at sony thought we did?

"None of my friends want it, therefore absolutely no one wants it."

Wow, what a compelling sample size.

 

[codezer0]

You're saying it as if you've never done something you found extraordinary in a video game or encountered a funny glitch or easter egg that you wanted to share with your friends but couldn't because hey, nobody records their gameplay footage 24/7. Now you can, and at a single press of a button too, a couple presses if you want to edit the footage.

There's literally a couple of seconds between "you laughing your pants off at a contorted, mangled body in Fallout 4 clipping through the walls and looking morbidly funny" and your friend "doing the exact same thing", I think the feature's cool and in the age of "Let's Play's" and other such shows it sort of begged to be implemented.

The problem is that of course it won't actually be there for any of the legitimately cool and funny stuff, but it'll be used for all the stupid and obnoxious stuff.

It's just like with all the times that hollywood has tried to make 3D a thing. Every example they ever showed was with stuff basically flying at you in the most obnoxious and immersion-breaking manner ever.

In this case, the share button will only work for some inane trophy that you earned, rather than because you saw something really cool or discovered an easter egg in the game (assuming that the creators even bother to put them in anymore ).

 

[codezer0]

"None of my friends want it, therefore absolutely no one wants it."

Wow, what a compelling sample size.

The only thing I can forsee out of the "share to [social network]" button sony put on the PS4 are the same things that have been done in facebook games... in other words, your friends lists will end up being filled with obnoxious game invites and status updates about "OH LOOK I COLLECTED A THING!" and "PAY NOW SO [FRIEND] CAN HAVE [STUPID OBJECT]!"

Social networks screwed the pooch on social games so hard for a reason.

 

[The Milkman]

The only thing I can forsee out of the "share to [social network]" button sony put on the PS4 are the same things that have been done in facebook games... in other words, your friends lists will end up being filled with obnoxious game invites and status updates about "OH LOOK I COLLECTED A THING!" and "PAY NOW SO [FRIEND] CAN HAVE [STUPID OBJECT]!"

Social networks screwed the pooch on social games so hard for a reason.

To be fair, look at Steam. Its been featuring multiple methods of sharing content from within its community for quite a while now, and it hasn't broken down into this. And they have an actual web-browser built into it, so it would actually be much easier to implement.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

The new names aren't mentioned at all in the first post, might be worth adding that as well as some of the info from the source like the screenshots so people don't have to click the source link.
I always thought "Press Start" was rather iconic. "Press Menu" or "Press Options" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Menu makes more sense than Start when it comes to pausing a game, but why couldn't it be called Start/Pause or something like that, that would've been the best.

 

[Foxi4]

The problem is that of course it won't actually be there for any of the legitimately cool and funny stuff, but it'll be used for all the stupid and obnoxious stuff.

It's just like with all the times that hollywood has tried to make 3D a thing. Every example they ever showed was with stuff basically flying at you in the most obnoxious and immersion-breaking manner ever.

In this case, the share button will only work for some inane trophy that you earned, rather than because you saw something really cool or discovered an easter egg in the game (assuming that the creators even bother to put them in anymore ).

I don't see this as a problem - you use the button for whatever you want to record and if your friends annoy you then it's time to find new friends. That being said, I get your point.

 

[chartube12]

Ouch, you really got me there, dude. Sorry helping a guy learn to spell Xbox is somehow worthy of sarcastic replies from a kid behind a keyboard.




No idea why you're being rude, but if this quote is any reflection fo your age, I'll just take it that you haven't learned the differences yet.


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