Hacking 3DS Custom Firmware by Smealum

[McHaggis]

Imo this is the same situation as with the PS3. The device can be hacked on <4.5 firmware versions but not above because the exploit has been fixed. And there won't be a CFW or flashcard for later FW versions for awhile or perhaps never. Gateway and those cheap clone makers promising working on later FW versions is just marketing. Imagine they tell you anything above 4.5 will never work.

IIRC, Gateway didn't even find the 4.1-4.5 exploit, so I'd be hard-pressed to believe they'll find a 5.x-6.x exploit either anyway. At least with the PS3, I can downgrade my firmware without a NAND backup of an older firmware, though. That seems unlikely as far as the 3DS is concerned.

I wonder, though... is anyone even looking for an exploit for 5.x-6.x? Those that successfully hacked their older firmwares seem content with just documenting everything for now. I remember talks of other exploits that might still work back when the 4.1-4.5 exploit was patched, but nothing more was ever said about it.

 

[the_randomizer]

That's surely an alternative. But what about when the games require a firmware that can't be NAND emulated? That's when people are starting to get out of luck.

Then the Gateway team will work on those games via GW update.

 

[Arizato]

Then the Gateway team will work on those games via GW update.

Which might not be possible without new hardware. No one will know what Nintendo will do to stop piracy.

 

[osm70]

Which might not be possible without new hardware. No one will know what Nintendo will do to stop piracy.

Nothing?

 

[McHaggis]

Nothing?

They've never done nothing, but they have been known to do less than the bare minimum.

 

[landmasta]

Smealum asking for money for showing us mega evolutions and stuff early.

lol.

 

[stanleyopar2000]

I hope this Custom Firmware won't require a gateway...too expensive....

 

[kyogre123]

I hope this Custom Firmware won't require a gateway...too expensive....

Why would it require a Gateway? Even the Gateway hack doesn't need the Gateway cart inserted to be installed, lol.

 

[stanleyopar2000]

Why would it require a Gateway? Even the Gateway hack doesn't need the Gateway cart inserted to be installed, lol.

But this will require Bangai-O-Spirits DS though right??

 

[kyogre123]

But this will require Bangai-O-Spirits DS though right??

I don't know, I only know that both hacks require a DSi Flashcard and an altered ROM (Gateway provides it on their downloads section).

 

[stanleyopar2000]

I don't know, I only know that both hacks require a DSi Flashcard and an altered ROM (Gateway provides it on their downloads section).

so my DSTWO along with a hacked ROM on that DSTWO will be enough on my 4.5 3DS?..sweet..

it's the "testrom" 3DS one right?

 

[kyogre123]

so my DSTWO along with a hacked ROM on that DSTWO will be enough on my 4.5 3DS?..sweet..

it's the "testrom" 3DS one right?

No, the ROM is where the "Blue Cart Files" are. The other file is the Launch.dat, that goes into the SD card. Anyways, the 2.0 update hasn't been released yet so don't rush.

 

[Coto]

Pretty sure they both use exact same method, using a shitty old flashcart to install the exploit, then same ds profile hack to execute code, 1 tp point to a launcher on sd and 1 to launch directly to the redNAND probably via a launcher of some sort too

but it involves editing the SDIO module (4.5fw), so when the launch at 6.x happens, the default SD handler calls (fw) are mapped between those areas.

a module must be added, so virtual nand can co-exist from a physical block, and be kept on memory.

 

[Snailface]

We need a homebrew bounty so bad it isn't funny.

I think it would address the 'when is this going to be released' pleas much better that just hoping for a release.

 

[Chaos]

It will be like this:

Have 3DS on 4.5 firmware. Make Nand BACKUP via soldering card reader or by using a flashcard (gateway blue card/dstwo/r4 with gateway 2.0 or other moded stuff)
Copy of 6.3 firmware.
DS back on 4.5 firmware with the 6.3 firmware backed up on SD card.
The DStwo,R4,Gateway blue etc etc with loader that loads 6.3 firmware you backed up from SD card.
Once this is done you could load games from normal slot or load another loader that loads games from SD card. (small homebrew app installed on 6.3 on SD card that loads roms from SD card)

So should be easy to do this as long as you have a DS on 4.5 and card that works on 4.5/6.3 might need to wait for someone to Mod the gateway 2.0 files once released or create own loaders.

 

[Xexyz]

It will be like this:

Have 3DS on 4.5 firmware. Make Nand BACKUP via soldering card reader or by using a flashcard (gateway blue card/dstwo/r4 with gateway 2.0 or other moded stuff)
Copy of 6.3 firmware.
DS back on 4.5 firmware with the 6.3 firmware backed up on SD card.
The DStwo,R4,Gateway blue etc etc with loader that loads 6.3 firmware you backed up from SD card.
Once this is done you could load games from normal slot or load another loader that loads games from SD card. (small homebrew app installed on 6.3 on SD card that loads roms from SD card)

So should be easy to do this as long as you have a DS on 4.5 and card that works on 4.5/6.3 might need to wait for someone to Mod the gateway 2.0 files once released or create own loaders.

NAND extracting i think is from the gateway ui. (not on flashcard or r4 or dstwo)

 

[xyzmanas]

Most people over here should realize that the Gateway team didn't discover their own exploit, it was mentioned on the 3dbrew homepage even before the gateway was announced and everybody was asked not to update to 5.1. So nobody has a copyright to anything, what smealum is doing and had done is unique in its own kind, no need to say that gateway showed this last week( yeah they showed it last week and would have earned a lot of money by now ) but smealum on the other hand is doing this for his passion and there is a big difference. I see few skiddies over here posting like a bullet train and spreading noobness al over the thread. Watch what is happening, no need to speculate bullshit on this thread.

 

[migles]

Most people over here should realize that the Gateway team didn't discover their own exploit, it was mentioned on the 3dbrew homepage even before the gateway was announced and everybody was asked not to update to 5.1. So nobody has a copyright to anything...

is there any copyright on modders\hackers world?

 

[how_do_i_do_that]

Most people over here should realize that the Gateway team didn't discover their own exploit, it was mentioned on the 3dbrew homepage even before the gateway was announced and everybody was asked not to update to 5.1. So nobody has a copyright to anything, what smealum is doing and had done is unique in its own kind, no need to say that gateway showed this last week( yeah they showed it last week and would have earned a lot of money by now ) but smealum on the other hand is doing this for his passion and there is a big difference. I see few skiddies over here posting like a bullet train and spreading noobness al over the thread. Watch what is happening, no need to speculate bullshit on this thread.

You are looking at this incorrectly. Because of "pirates" that used this exploit, smealum was going to become a irrelevant footnote like most academic hackers if he didn't do anything with this exploit himself.

 

[ground]

as i can see it now we can seperate gateway and smea now, because they have different goals.

gateway: earn as much money as possible
smea: learning, having fun and achieve things which couldn't be done before

and dont get me wrong, they both achieved great things, but in fact they are doing it out of different aspects( and maybe they are using each others work or ideas, and maybe they dont) but keep those 2 seperated, and if people are willing to pay more for it and want to enjoy the exploits early, just deal with it. but please keep on topic and dont bitch around within different topics about it, because they are both doing the work they are promising