XBone: Microsoft releases information on what goes.

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Though much of this was kind of available and speculated upon for weeks now it seems Microsoft have released some hard information on what the state of play is and the online components. For those more used to the traditional "online is but a nice perk" and "get a cart/disc by any way you like and swap it with your friends" type arrangements with the previous consoles it makes for some grim reading.

As speculated online is a major focus of the console and it plays out as follows
  • The games on demand service is being expanded to allow and seemingly mandate simultaneous releases of games as physical discs and online games.
  • Discs will be available but for the most part they are the "boot-load of hard drives"* approach to bandwidth.
  • The steam approach of everything everywhere is being adopted.
  • For your actual xbone any local user/guest has access to everything. How this will play out with xbox live remains to be seen (as it stands the 360 has some interesting things for some games).
  • Family play -- up to 10 people can use games remotely from a single account.
  • "game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers" -- MS does not charge but presumably the publishers can.
  • However there does seem to be the option to give games to your friends (friends = being on your friends list for 30 days) though it is limited to one trade for a given licence/instance of a game.
  • Loaning or renting games won’t be available at launch

    Online requirements.
    The one most people were hugely concerned with was the online requirement
  • "With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library. Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies."

A whole lot of downsides for a few kind of perks, by and large the reaction of GBAtemp's user's has been quite negative to this as it seems like a very unwelcome power grab. Some of the features might be kind of useful but most of it was solved years ago by lending a disc or tottering off to a friend's with disc in hand.

*for those unaware it is a phrase that has been attributed to various computer oriented people over the years concerning the transfer of data and runs something like "the latency sucks but never underestimate the bandwidth of a trunkload of hard drives/discs barreling down the freeway".

Thanks to sjones900 and ShadowSoldier (we co-opted his original post for this article) for the news.
 
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Here comes the mob of angry fans and Microsoft trying their best to clarify it.

Well... in Microsoft's defense:

At Xbox, we’ve always believed in a connected world of games and entertainment. With Xbox One, we are planning for a connected future. We can’t wait to show you what’s to come.
 
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Well I hope it either gets hacked or it looks like I will be finding a way to put the Playstation controller into a nice shell when I finally decide to get a new console (not a surefire thing at present).
 

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So, you soldiers over in the middle east in the desert? Go fuck yourselves! You can't have any of dat sweet sweet Xbone juice you fuckers! What are you doing over there? Protecting America or something?

...who told you that soldiers over in the middle east don't have internet connections? They do, in fact they are allowed to use them periodically to talk with their families over communicators like Skype.
 

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...who told you that soldiers over in the middle east don't have internet connections? They do, in fact they are allowed to use them periodically to talk with their families over communicators like Skype.
I didn't say they don't have internet connections. Of course they do. But as you said, it's for talking with families on a very shotty connection, it's not used for gaming.
 

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I do have to wonder where the hell this decision is coming from. I get it, they want to prevent piracy, and the major publishers have looked for a way around used game sales for quite some time. But is completely alienating a huge chunk of your audience right out the gate really the best way to do it?

Internet access can be more inconsistent than Nicholas Cage's filmography, even (or rather, especially) in the United States, the main market for this thing. How many returns are there going to be when people find out that they can't play games on the game machine they paid for?

I have to know. Is there some kind of "Springtime for Hitler" scheme going on here or did they make a colossal mistake and just decide to roll with it?
 

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I didn't say they don't have internet connections. Of course they do. But as you said, it's for talking with families on a very shotty connection, it's not used for gaming.

Oh, I was just bickering anyways. :P My point was, it's likely that the system would be connected anyways since the soldiers could use the "I use the Kinect as a chatting tool" argument... somehow... :P
 

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Microsoft finally publicly elaborates on the details of buying/selling used, borrowing and renting games. It seems that you will be able to borrow games from friends, however you must be on their friends list to do so. And as far as there being a fee for buying used, that is at the discretion of the publisher.

With our modern architecture, Xbox One games will load more quickly, will be always accessible from the cloud, and there is no physical limit to the size or scope of the content provided.

Here are our platform policies and capabilities for game licensing – all of which will be made available when Xbox One launches later this year:

  • Buy the way you want—disc or digital—on the same day: You’ll be able to buy disc-based games at traditional retailers or online through Xbox Live, on day of release. Discs will continue to be a great way to install your games quickly.

  • Access your entire games library from any Xbox One—no discs required: After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud. So, for example, while you are logged in at your friend’s house, you can play your games.

  • Share access to your games with everyone inside your home: Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games. Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.

  • Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.

  • Trade-in and resell your disc-based games: Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games.

  • Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.
In our role as a game publisher, Microsoft Studios will enable you to give your games to friends or trade in your Xbox One games at participating retailers. Third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers. Microsoft does not receive any compensation as part of this. In addition, third party publishers can enable you to give games to friends. Loaning or renting games won’t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners.
As we move into this new generation of games and entertainment, from time to time, Microsoft may change its policies, terms, products and services to reflect modifications and improvements to our services, feedback from customers and our business partners or changes in our business priorities and business models or for other reasons. We may also cease to offer certain services or products for similar reasons.
In the months ahead, we will continue to listen to your feedback as we meet with our partners in the ecosystem to bring additional detail about our policies.
We are excited about this new generation of games and entertainment and look forward to sharing more news with our fans.

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