UAC Prompt Conditions On EXE Launch

[Rydian]

So outside of a file stating that it'll need admin rights in the manifest, I learned that having "Patch" in the filename will make Windows assume it needs admin rights.

 

[chrisrlink]

is there a way to "unpatch requiring no auth (UAC)

 

[Rydian]

is there a way to "unpatch requiring no auth (UAC)

Include a manifest that states it doesn't need admin rights.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb756929.aspx
asInvoker looks like the setting you want.

 

[Lacius]

I learned that having "Patch" in the filename will make Windows assume it needs admin rights.

Whoa, you're right. Interesting find.

Edit: Same for the words "update" "install" and "setup" apparently.

 

[The Milkman]

whoa wait really? THIS is how that Admin rights window works?

 

[Rydian]

whoa wait really? THIS is how that Admin rights window works?

Not at the core, no. This is just a fallback method Microsoft added for Pre-XP programs (or programs made without consideration to user rights levels at all) so they could still prompt for admin rights if they were obviously mean to, such as a program installer or patcher.

 

[The Milkman]

Not at the core, no. This is just a fallback method Microsoft added for Pre-XP programs (or programs made without consideration to user rights levels at all) so they could still prompt for admin rights if they were obviously mean to, such as a program installer or patcher.

That still is interesting. Thanks for sharing.

 

[chrisrlink]

Include a manifest that states it doesn't need admin rights.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb756929.aspx
asInvoker looks like the setting you want.

can you modify most windows setup programs (virtualbox ex) to not use UAC?

 

[LoloLakitu]

can you modify most windows setup programs (virtualbox ex) to not use UAC?

You turn off UAC, I don't see a reason to have to modify it.

 

[Rydian]

can you modify most windows setup programs (virtualbox ex) to not use UAC?

The programs themselves, not in this case. UAC is used to launch a program with admin rights, if the program needs to modify protected area of Windows. Virtualbox needs to modify protected area of Windows (system settings, install virtual drivers, etc.) in order to run. If you removed all the admin-needing stuff, it wouldn't be useful.

UAC disabled means every program you run has admin rights, which will bypass the need for a prompt in the first place, like LLL said.

 

[Minox]

UAC disabled means every program you run has admin rights, which will bypass the need for a prompt in the first place, like LLL said.

That's not the experience I've had. Despite having UAC disabled I've periodically had to force certain applications to run with admin rights.

 

[Rydian]

That's not the experience I've had. Despite having UAC disabled I've periodically had to force certain applications to run with admin rights.

Which programs, and how did you need to fix it? Right-as admin or something?

 

[Sly 3 4 me]

I have my UAC off and have it set to run all programs as 'Run as Administrator'.

 

[Fishaman P]

I think it's more for people who want to bypass Parental Controls.
The only place I could see a manifest being useful for that is for the odd app that doesn't need admin rights yet requests them, like the Project64 2.0 installer or the Firefox installers (at least in the past, around 3.6's era)

 

[The Milkman]

I think it's more for people who want to bypass Parental Controls.
The only place I could see a manifest being useful for that is for the odd app that doesn't need admin rights yet requests them, like the Project64 2.0 installer or the Firefox installers (at least in the past, around 3.6's era)

Or for people who dont want to confirm with a small window that mimizes everything anytime they want to start a program.

 

[Fishaman P]

Or for people who dont want to confirm with a small window that mimizes everything anytime they want to start a program.

As already stated, it's laughably easy to disable the dimming or even UAC entirely.

 

[chrisrlink]

I think it's more for people who want to bypass Parental Controls.
The only place I could see a manifest being useful for that is for the odd app that doesn't need admin rights yet requests them, like the Project64 2.0 installer or the Firefox installers (at least in the past, around 3.6's era)

right on the money fisher my parents are treating me like a $%#@ing kid im sick of it

 

[Rydian]

The Project 64 installer needs admin rights because Program Files is a protected directory.

If you take a program that needs admin rights and edit it to no request them, it won't work properly because it won't be given permission to write to whatever or do whatever it needs. The manifest and prompting at start is so programs that KNOW they need admin rights can request it on launch automatically instead of the user having to run it once, notice it broke, then run it again with admin rights like they sometimes have to do.

 

[Fishaman P]

The Project 64 installer needs admin rights because Program Files is a protected directory.

If you take a program that needs admin rights and edit it to no request them, it won't work properly because it won't be given permission to write to whatever or do whatever it needs. The manifest and prompting at start is so programs that KNOW they need admin rights can request it on launch automatically instead of the user having to run it once, notice it broke, then run it again with admin rights like they sometimes have to do.

That's precisely the point: Project64 2.0 can run entirely from a removable drive, which is exactly what I was trying to do.
However, the computer I was using wouldn't let me even run the installer.

 

[The Milkman]

As already stated, it's laughably easy to disable the dimming or even UAC entirely.

Yeah, wasnt that what you were referring to?