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Ok I have to say this is my first post to this forum so I am going to sound a bit noobish so please forgive me for that. I recently bought a 3DS off ebay for $120.50 (that's with shipping) and found out there were flash cards for it..

.. but the flash cards will only play DS roms. But there's 3ds roms dumped all over the place...

So my question is why is it taking so long to create a product to play roms off of a flash card? That or a custom firmware that allows people to play roms (just like with the Wii.. that got hacked and I play roms on that).

I have heard about the crown ds card but that was abandoned as far as I know and I am literally floored that NO other major company.. not R4, not ace, not dstwo , not ANYONE can come up with a flash card that can play roms.

Is there any way we can monitor the progress of the 3DS being hacked? How can we find out when it is indeed ready and we can play 3ds games off of a flash cart.

Let me know guys. I just bought mine and I want to play some games! :)
 

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For all intents and purposes it would not be difficult to create a very basic flashcart for the system - thing is, hackers aren't interested in that. Those guys want to "break" the system, get to know its in's and out's and facilitate homebrew creation without allowing piracy, you're going to wait quite a while before a ROM-capable device or custom firmware pops up. You might as well sell your system and buy another one cheap in 2-4 years from now.
 

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Piracy hurts the speculative market, which in turn directs interest away from said affected device. Instead I believe the devs here want to allow for the use of LEGAL application which is less likely to turn big time developers away from teh console. So as far as running roms goes, unless someone leaks from the scene devs, don't count on it any time soon
 

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I'm sure there's more than one instance where software developers have refused to publish games for the DS due to IP concerns. I never said it's the death of the console
 

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For all intents and purposes it would not be difficult to create a very basic flashcart for the system - thing is, hackers aren't interested in that. Those guys want to "break" the system, get to know its in's and out's and facilitate homebrew creation without allowing piracy, you're going to wait quite a while before a ROM-capable device or custom firmware pops up. You might as well sell your system and buy another one cheap in 2-4 years from now.

Or you could just buy games.
 

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Ok I have to say this is my first post to this forum so I am going to sound a bit noobish so please forgive me for that. I recently bought a 3DS off ebay for $120.50 (that's with shipping) and found out there were flash cards for it..

.. but the flash cards will only play DS roms. But there's 3ds roms dumped all over the place...

So my question is why is it taking so long to create a product to play roms off of a flash card? That or a custom firmware that allows people to play roms (just like with the Wii.. that got hacked and I play roms on that).

I have heard about the crown ds card but that was abandoned as far as I know and I am literally floored that NO other major company.. not R4, not ace, not dstwo , not ANYONE can come up with a flash card that can play roms.

Is there any way we can monitor the progress of the 3DS being hacked? How can we find out when it is indeed ready and we can play 3ds games off of a flash cart.

Let me know guys. I just bought mine and I want to play some games! :)
Why don't YOU do it then?
 

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It's not as simple as, "Hey let me put some file on my 3DS so I can play it already!!!"

They have to use REVERSE ENGINEERING to figure out EXACTLY how the 3DS works before they can even begin to create a flash cart to emulate the hardware.
 

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Because you already made a 3DS ROM Loader, so why would he bother?

Lol, I love how this kid thinks he or she is going to need a flash cart to do this. But anyways Rydian did make his ROM loader, and I've been ripping all of my games to my 3ds for weeks using my FPGA board. My friend friend has started creating an emulator (he was fuzzing his PS3 for fun, but he wanted to do something more fun). Rydian, when are you going to release the cheat engine so we can look for RAM values?
 

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Lol, I love how this kid thinks he or she is going to need a flash cart to do this. But anyways Rydian did make his ROM loader, and I've been ripping all of my games to my 3ds for weeks using my FPGA board. My friend friend has started creating an emulator (he was fuzzing his PS3 for fun, but he wanted to do something more fun). Rydian, when are you going to release the cheat engine so we can look for RAM values?
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You are aware these arent major companies doing this right? Most of these are small teams who (as far as I know) comunicate over the internet and have the cards manufactured in east asia. Its not like they have full on offices, its not like they have massive amounts of manpower behind it, its not even like they are doing the hacking. Its not going to happen just like that, in fact, I think the only reason the DS got hacked so fast was because they caught Nintendo off guard or something (I dont know, I wasnt into the scene back then)
 

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I don't understand what's wrong with flashcarts compared to a hacked firmware other then the flashcart costing money.
 

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I don't understand what's wrong with flashcarts compared to a hacked firmware other then the flashcart costing money.
Without the ability to modify the function of the original system, you cannot...
  • Stop the system from updating.
  • Downgrade the system, if physically possible.
  • Add new features to the base system such as cheat searching, MP3 playing in-game, and other such things that might not be supported.
  • Rewrite portions of the system permanently to remove annoyances, such as software limits (there's a 10 minute limit on video playing IIRC).
  • Modify/remove boot screens (removing the health/safety warning screen was commonly-done on the DS Lite, and the PSP's boot screen removal is appreciated by at least me).
  • Modify the unit's clock rate, downclocking to save battery or overclocking for better performance (removing framerate issues in actual 3DS games, better emulation, etc.).
  • Allow homebrew to run in a higher rights mode in order to use hardware in a different way such as data gathering and additional resource usage. Look at the limits of the Half-Byte loader on the PSP versus what a proper CFW offered. Many homebrews would not even run on HBL as they needed or assumed admin rights in order to gather hardware info and use things like the media engine for emulation.

And this is just off the top of my head.
 
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For all intents and purposes it would not be difficult to create a very basic flashcart for the system - thing is, hackers aren't interested in that. Those guys want to "break" the system, get to know its in's and out's and facilitate homebrew creation without allowing piracy, you're going to wait quite a while before a ROM-capable device or custom firmware pops up. You might as well sell your system and buy another one cheap in 2-4 years from now.

That's the only reason why I would ever buy a flashcard anymore. Piracy is gay. If they do manage to come out with cards that only allows homebrew and blocks pirated ROMs, all the power to them then.
 

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That's the only reason why I would ever buy a flashcard anymore. Piracy is gay. If they do manage to come out with cards that only allows homebrew and blocks pirated ROMs, all the power to them then.
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