EA Refuse to Refund SimCity - Possible account ban if you take action

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So if unless you've been living under a rock for the past few days, you may have noticed (it's hard to miss) the recent debacle regarding EA's new reboot of SimCity. Always-online DRM even for a single-player game already had gamers raising their clenched fists; but coupled with extreme under-estimates of server load on EA's part, launch adopters of the game have faced persistent problems ranging from disconnects and loss of save data to simply being unable to access their game.


While the server stress appeared to be improving as it released in Europe this wasn't to last and it seems for those who are unhappy with their purchase things have just taken a turn for the worse. Tom Reiertsen, a reader of Eurogamer, has reported that EA are refusing to refund his purchase regardless of his claims of the game being "broken" and "unplayable". Under EU law this is normally grounds to demand a full refund of your purchase, no matter what the product is and this should still be the case here. However, EA state that they are "unable to offer a refund on digital downloads" and, to make matters worse, any attempt to claim a refund charge through your bank account will result in your entire Origin account having "action taken against it". Read the full conversation below:


info: You are now ready to chat with Brian.
you: Hi
you: I would like to request a refund for the game SimCity that I bought on Origin. I cannot play the game because of consistent server issues. I deem the Product not working and by Norwegian Consumer laws I request a full refund and that the game is removed from my Origin Account.
you: Hello?
Brian: Hi. Thank you for contacting EA help, how may I help you?
you: I would like to request a refund for the game SimCity that I bought on Origin. I cannot play the game because of consistent server issues. I deem the Product not working and by Norwegian Consumer laws I request a full refund and that the game is removed from my Origin Account.
Brian: I am very sorry to hear that, do you have a digital or physical copy?
you: I have a digital copy
Brian: And you have already downloaded the game?
you: Yes, I preordered the game on 06.03.2013 and it was preloaded yesterday
you: I have been unable to play it because of server issues.
Brian: I apologize but we are unable to offer a refund on digital downloads. This is part of the terms of service found at the following link http://www.ea.com/terms-of-service Section 5, 9 discusses the refunds. You can find specific details by pressing CONTROL + F and searching for the key word "Refund". We are working on the servers and they are getting more stable. The game just released so I appreciate your patience. am sorry that we can not issue this refund. Is there anything else I could help you with today?
you: I am sorry, but this is unacceptable. Are you aware that you are in Clear violations of Norwegian Consumer laws? It is illegal to sell or advertise a defective Product Norway and not offer refunds if it is broken
you: What is the address and phone number of Your Norwegian Offices? I am going to report this to the consumer affairs Office, and would like this information for my report.
Brian: Norway 21 08 17 06 +47 21 08 17 06 Norwegian: 8AM-5PM GMT, Monday through Friday. That is all of the information I have for you at this time.
Brian: Because you have already downloaded the game we are not able to refund you for the product. But the servers will be fixed soon. I can promise you that.
you: Also, I will claim the charge on my credit card as fraud and have my bank follow through on this.
you: Your assurance of the server issues is of no concern to me, I have zero tolerance for issues like this.
Brian: If you do that it is possible that action will be taken against your origin account.
you: You have taken my Money an not delivered the promised Product.
Brian: I am very sorry, but the product will be fixed.
you: Is that a threat? What kind of action, I have other games there that is not affected.
you: Are you actually saying that you will Block my other games If i report this sale as fraud?
you: I want to be assured that my other Origin games will not be affected
Brian: If you claim a fraud charge against origin you face a chance of your account having action taking against it. I am very sorry, but you can not claim a charge back against that.
you: Of course I can, if you sell me a Product that is not working, it is clearly fraud. I will let this rest for a week, if the Product is yet not delivered to me in working order, I will claim that this is a fraudulent transaction.
Brian: If you do that your account will face action. Please have patience and give it sometime.
Brian: Thank you for contacting EA. Is there anything else I can help you with today?
you: No, thank you for nothing. I am disgusted that you can even think of threatening to Block my Origin account over this when it is you who are clearly in the wrong. Appalling.

:arrow: Via Eurogamer.net
 

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Wow.

It just goes to show that these companies are only kept afloat by a few flagship juggernaut franchises. If there was any kind of 'justice' in this sort of stuff, EA would go under bloody soon.

Oh, and for those thinking that perhaps Brian was just a prick and the rest of tech support might be less bad (naive, but possible)

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Season 15 Episode 5: Crack Baby Athletic Association. About a minute and a half before the episode is over.
Just finished watching the whole episode. It had so many lulz! I especially loved the part where they rib EA for making all this money off the NCAA games yet, never paying the players.
 

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It simply needs to be said at this point, that Amazon have even halted sale of SimCity because the game is basically broken at the moment.
And Origin will actually threaten to ban your account if you want a refund for your defective product? That's just galling.
 

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It simply needs to be said at this point, that Amazon have even halted sale of SimCity because the game is basically broken at the moment.
And Origin will actually threaten to ban your account if you want a refund for your defective product? That's just galling.
I foresee lawsuits
 

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