Homebrew Attention: Looking for Volunteers to Help Tantric with his emulators

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Yeah, no sense in rising to his bait. He can't help being a self-entitled twit. The name-calling and tell me to f**k off sure brightened my day!

OK, here is what the 'self-entitled twit' tells you then - for you, the 'self-entitled twit', to stop using my software then.

I think that is only fair since I am at least producing something for free for your ungrateful ass to consume.

BTW - this is what happens when you and nintygaming push developers to the edge - you and nintygaming have brought this on to yourself. It's about time you two realize just how borderline insane both of you are acting half of the time. I've tried to be nice about this but there is just no end to it and I no longer feel like pretending there is no issue when there is.

BTW - I don't really feel like posting on this board anymore - so whatever. If ToadKing still wants to stay around in this forsaken wasteland - he can choose to do so.

Congratulations - you just drove away yet another dev. No wonder people are reaching for the exit.
 

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OK, here is what the 'self-entitled twit' tells you then - for you, the 'self-entitled twit', to stop using my software then.

I think that is only fair since I am at least producing something for free for your ungrateful ass to consume.

BTW - this is what happens when you and nintygaming push developers to the edge - you and nintygaming have brought this on to yourself. It's about time you two realize just how borderline insane both of you are acting half of the time. I've tried to be nice about this but there is just no end to it and I no longer feel like pretending there is no issue when there is.

BTW - I don't really feel like posting on this board anymore - so whatever. If ToadKing still wants to stay around in this forsaken wasteland - he can choose to do so.

Rage-quitting? Really? I said that I would take a look at the source code of Tantric's emulators, learn the programming languages and experiment with it, but if me stating that pushes over the edge, so be it. Long gone are the days when simply ignoring seemingly grating or otherwise defamatory comments was the best solution. Look, I obviously can't undo anything I've said, but I can tell you that RetroArch Wii is my emulator of choice and will be preferred over Snes9x GX due to various reasons. That is all I am saying at this point. You want to rage-quit, fine, I can respect the fact our being on here is a hindrance and of no worth. I will take it upon myself to learn programming, but not for the sake of placating anyone, but for future reference.

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Yeah, no sense in rising to his bait. He can't help being a self-entitled twit. The name-calling and tell me to f**k off sure brightened my day!

Its so much easier to just request help if your a coder. I mean, you and I are essentially bug testers, but, if a coder is feeling overwhelmed with bug reports, then a simple "For this particular bug, would you mind helping me with the code?" would be all that's needed. Its so much easier on the nerves to just ask NICELY. I mean, if you are a coder, and you ask for help in a nice manor and the bug tester or non-coder declines, then its easy to just say "Ok, thanks anyway, hope you reconsider". That's all that needs to be said. All this fussing and hating just makes things worse. I've been nice virtually 100% of the time. A lesser person would have stomped his face in a long time ago. Thank God I'm not that kind of person anymore. Kindness is always the best approach. Even if someone physically beats him down, it won't change his attitude, it will probably make him worse later on.

Well at least ToadKing is a kind individual.
 

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Its so much easier to just request help if your a coder. I mean, you and I are essentially bug testers, but, if a coder is feeling overwhelmed with bug reports, then a simple "For this particular bug, would you mind helping me with the code?" would be all that's needed. Its so much easier on the nerves to just ask NICELY. I mean, if you are a coder, and you ask for help in a nice manor and the bug tester or non-coder declines, then its easy to just say "Ok, thanks anyway, hope you reconsider". That's all that needs to be said. All this fussing and hating just makes things worse. I've been nice virtually 100% of the time. A lesser person would have stomped his face in a long time ago. Thank God I'm not that kind of person anymore. Kindness is always the best approach. Even if someone physically beats him down, it won't change his attitude, it will probably make him worse later on.

Well at least ToadKing is a kind individual.

And the saddest part is, a developer decided to quit and I can't say as I blame him for deciding. ToadKing is still around and that's good, but I hope Libretro's deciding to leave doesn't influence his future. I want to program emulators or at least tweak the source code, the trouble is, I don't even know where to begin.

I'll start here https://code.google.com/p/snes9x-gx/wiki/Compiling

BTW - ToadKing thinks you're just as nutty as I do (and selfish) - sorry but it's the honest to God truth - one thing about me is that I never, ever lie.
Well, I don't blame either of you for thinking that way, we treated you like crap and there's nary a thing we can do to reverse said damage, but I can tell you this, I will learn how to program and eventually I can contribute to the emulation scene. I said my piece, my job here is done. *Sigh* There ya have it. I don't expect to be forgiven for my stupidity and incessant nagging, but it is what it is I guess.
 

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Rage-quitting? Really? I said that I would take a look at the source code of Tantric's emulators, learn the programming languages and experiment with it, but if me stating that pushes over the edge, so be it. Long gone are the days when simply ignoring seemingly grating or otherwise defamatory comments was the best solution. Look, I obviously can't undo anything I've said, but I can tell you that RetroArch Wii is my emulator of choice and will be preferred over Snes9x GX due to various reasons. That is all I am saying at this point. You want to rage-quit, fine, I can respect the fact our being on here is a hindrance and of no worth. I will take it upon myself to learn programming, but not for the sake of placating anyone, but for future reference.

- さらば

Why let myself get treated like shit by the people who I am supposedly coding this software for when I could be doing better things with my time? You guys apparently 'value your time' and don't want to waste it - well then, perhaps I should be thinking about not 'wasting my time' as well- especially when that time is being spent on people who seem to be taking my 'time' for granted.
 

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Why let myself get treated like shit by the people who I am supposedly coding this software for when I could be doing better things with my time? You guys apparently 'value your time' and don't want to waste it - well then, perhaps I should be thinking about not 'wasting my time' as well- especially when that time is being spent on people who don't seem to deserve it.

Perhaps, but the sad thing is, I can't turn the clock back, I can't undo the disparaging remarks and foul language I said; I may not have used the f-bomb, but it may as well been. I don't know what will happen from here on out. What will be, will be. It's ironic, many users hate to see developers quit and try to do everything they can to ensure they stay a good while only to be self-entitled pricks and end up upsetting said developers. Sad, but true.:unsure:
 

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BTW - ToadKing thinks you're just as nutty as I do - sorry but it's the honest to God truth - one thing about me is that I never, ever lie.

I don't care what ether one of you think. I - like the_randomizer - still love these emulators regardless if fool(s) are coding it. Heck look at me, I'm a fool once again for responding. No surprise there.

I'd highly suggest closing your issues page and/or deleting the Wii Retroarch thread altogether because its obvious that you (and possibly your buddies) don't want to hear about issues altogether and want all of us users to magically turn into God-like coders.
 

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BTW - ToadKing thinks you're just as nutty as I do (and selfish) - sorry but it's the honest to God truth - one thing about me is that I never, ever lie.

Lier's are always the one's who claim they never, ever lie - as evidenced by your erroneous claims regarding my non-existent requests and/or badgering.
 
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I don't care what ether one of you think. I - like the_randomizer - still love these emulators regardless if fool(s) are coding it. Heck look at me, I'm a fool once again for responding. No surprise there.

I'd highly suggest closing your issues page and/or deleting the Wii Retroarch thread altogether because its obvious that you (and possibly your buddies) don't want to hear about issues altogether and want all of us users to magically turn into God-like coders.

Calling the guy who butters your bread a 'liar' and a 'fool' while you are too lazy to do anything except exercise your end-user right to 'file enhancement issues' - hey I love you too (but not very much or at all right now).

Keep it up - you're making my decision all the easier. You're illustrating my point perfectly.
 

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Why let myself get treated like shit by the people who I am supposedly coding this software for when I could be doing better things with my time? You guys apparently 'value your time' and don't want to waste it - well then, perhaps I should be thinking about not 'wasting my time' as well- especially when that time is being spent on people who seem to be taking my 'time' for granted.


Ignore those guys, and keep the motivation ahead on what makes you "code". I'm looking to see what you guys at libretro team can do, and have done. For I, am very grateful and keep up the great work...- and motivation. There will be always pests around, so ... that's it.

Now, you've been way too nice by listening to every damn opinion/improvements the emu should have from users. I suggest an overall weekly/monthly poll to gather the best ideas around end users, to be included on the software / framework you're developing.
 

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Let's cease this argument, it's getting nowhere and making my head hurt.

No need to get worked up over this. Its obvious that LibretroRetroarc cannot fix the stuff that we mentioned (hence taking out his frustration on us instead) so there's no need to mention it anymore. Perhaps we can figure it out, but that's a big "perhaps".
 
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Calling the guy who butters your bread a 'liar' and a 'fool' while you are too lazy to do anything except exercise your end-user right to 'file enhancement issues' - hey I love you too (but not very much or at all right now).

Keep it up - you're making my decision all the easier. You're illustrating my point perfectly.

Look, we all need to put our heads together and find a way to stop this needless argument; it has gone out of hand and is making sick to my stomach. It solves nothing, it only makes the situation worse. We all three need to agree on an armistice.
 

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Ignore those guys, and keep the motivation ahead on what makes you "code". I'm looking to see what you guys at libretro team can do, and have done. For I, am very grateful and keep up the great work...- and motivation. There will be always pests around, so ... that's it.

Now, you've been way too nice by listening to every damn opinion/improvements the emu should have from users. I suggest an overall weekly/monthly poll to gather the best ideas around end users, to be included on the software / framework you're developing.

I tried my best to NOT be a pest, but I suppose I'm still learning in that area. But don't get me wrong, just because I report an issue here and there doesn't mean I'm ungrateful, because I'm totally grateful for Retroarch and Tantrics work thusfar, otherwise I wouldn't use them so frequently. Its not like I'm saying "these emulators suck"! Far from it.
 

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No need to get worked up over this. Its obvious that LibretroRetroarc cannot fix the stuff that we mentioned (hence taking out his frustration on us instead) so there's no need to mention it anymore. Perhaps we can figure it out, but that's a big "perhaps".

Nah son, it's more like it's stupid stuff that we don't want to include.

I have been very considerate given your requests for these display options (that all centre around some niche '240p video mode' that even Nintendo no longer gives a crap about) - if you had asked maister the same questions, he would have laughed straight in your face - I at least tried to consider it [the auto VI mode changing], but it is really not something we want to do or something that would be 'scaleable' across the various cores we have.
 

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it's nice that people are still caring about old emualtors on the wii. but still senseless bitching is going get anyone no where. hell all of the wii emualtors i used i loved it was such a shame i could not have a fix for getting konami arcade classics to work on the latest one before i left the wii screen.
 

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Nah son, it's more like it's stupid stuff that we don't want to include.

I have been very considerate given your requests for these display options (that all centre around some niche '240p video mode' that even Nintendo no longer gives a crap about) - if you had asked maister the same questions, he would have laughed straight in your face - I at least tried to consider it [the auto VI mode changing], but it is really not something we want to do or something that would be 'scaleable' across the various cores we have.

I was referring mostly to a standalone SNES9x. For a standalone emulator, it makes more sense. For multicore emulators, its makes less sense. Your last sentence " it is really not something we want to do" is good enough for me. That's all you need to say. A simple "no" is best answer you can give us. Heck you already said in the retroarch thread that you were going to take out all those resolutions anyway and go back to the way it was before (640x480), unless you changed your mind for whatever reason.
 

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i wonder how hard it would be to add online play to these Emulators? it would be a dream come true for me if i could play online with these bad boys but i know it's not going happen so why bother of what i said.
 
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