Citizens from 20 U.S. States File Petitions to Secede

[retKHAAAN]

As blogged in The Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ates-petition-obama-administration-to-secede/

Post-election, there are now petitions on the White House's "We the People" website for 20 (possibly more by now) states to peacefully secede from the union.

Thoughts?

 

[Gahars]

Where's Grant and Sherman when you need them?

 

[DaggerV]

Online petition tend to be useless, but how many have actual people of positions backing it?


And on top of that, how many are red/blue states?

 

[retKHAAAN]

Online petition tend to be useless, but how many have actually people of positions backing it?


And on top of that, how many are red/blue states?

Follow the link?
The White House has to issue a response once a petition reaches 30,000 signatures within 30 days. Two petitions are nearly there...


*edit
Apparently dickfour has voted...

 

[DCG]

Lol, only first name and the initials of the last name?
I can has many many "signatures".... Here in Holland, you need: First name, Last name and Postal code. (and yes, they have denied signatures here, because they only had first and last name)

But seriously, why the hell would they quit?
Don't they have to pay their debt in an instant ( to the government), or something like that?

 

[The Catboy]

Seriously?
Dividing the nation again won't solve it's problem, in fact it might actually make them worse.
I think people need to grow up instead of ragequitting on America the moment something doesn't go according to their plan.

 

[stinkoman]

Texas is a shithole, let 'em leave.

 

[Foxi4]

Seriously?
Dividing the nation again won't solve it's problem, in fact it might actually make them worse.
I think people need to grow up instead of ragequitting on America the moment something doesn't go according to their plan.

...why?

Y'know what happened last time when America was divided into two vastly different fronts with completely different ideals? A civil war.

They should organize a public vote - if the states want to leave, let them leave - they have a right to do so. The U.S is a federal state, the states have a right to self-govern themselves to an extent.

 

[Sterling]

Yeah no. It was dumb the first time, but they actually had a "valid" reason to leave. This isn't just dumb, it's without a cause. I'd also rather not have a slew of uneducated bigots entering my State, so fuck the second option. >.> >.< <.> <.<

Though, Texas would be the best off as their own country. No large debt to pay off, pretty well governed and we have some pretty educated people here. When I say this, I mean among the states with a petition.

 

[retKHAAAN]

lol at the idea of any state surviving as a sovereign entity...

what could half of these places even offer for trade?

 

[chyyran]

Go ahead and secede, it's their choice let it be, unless you guys want another civil war. I'm not even American.

 

[AeroblitzR]

are people that freakin butthurt over obama getting re elected?!

Republican ultraconservative weirdos: get over it!
maybe if you were against rape like EVERYONE ELSE you'd be in the white house.

p.s. there's ALOT more stuff that they're screwing up on, but i don't have all day to type it up.

 

[Foxi4]

Yeah no. It was dumb the first time, but they actually had a "valid" reason to leave. This isn't just dumb, it's without a cause. I'd also rather not have a slew of uneducated bigots entering my State, so fuck the second option. >.> >.< <.> <.<

So I take it you don't believe that the entirety of the 20 states in question would vote "No!" if they were to vote, and not just in a majority vote, but in a public "60% or more of the population has cast their vote or it doesn't count" kinda vote?

Because I believe they would vote "No!", but at the same time, they'd put those 30,000 idiots in their place. Why are we always so afraid to let democracy run its course?

maybe if you were against rape like EVERYONE ELSE you'd be in the white house.

Way to misinterpret someone's statement. No Republicans support rape, I think that's pretty safe to assume.

 

[KingVamp]

Seriously?
Dividing the nation again won't solve it's problem, in fact it might actually make them worse.
I think people need to grow up instead of ragequitting on America the moment something doesn't go according to their plan.

Would you feel that way if Romney would have won?


How 'bout they leave and we keep the state.

It's kind of funny that people in Puerto Rico wants to join as soon as people in these states
want to leave.

 

[Sterling]

So I take it you don't believe that the entirety of the 20 states in question would vote "No!" if they were to vote, and not just in a majority vote, but in a public "60% or more of the population has cast their vote or it doesn't count" kinda vote?

Because I believe they would vote "No!", but at the same time, they'd put those 30,000 idiots in their place. Why are we always so afraid to let democracy run its course?
Way to misinterpret someone's statement. No Republicans support rape, I think that's pretty safe to assume.

I'm not allowed an opinion? Even if the state secedes, I won't be leaving. I love this place way too much. I'd be one of those people that votes a big fat no.

 

[The Catboy]

...why?

Y'know what happened last time when America was divided into two vastly different fronts with completely different ideals? A civil war.

They should organize a public vote - if the states want to leave, let them leave - they have a right to do so. The U.S is a federal state, the states have a right to self-govern themselves to an extent.

On paper it sounds like a pretty good idea to just let them go, but I see several issues. One big issue being that a good number of them are right in the middle of America. This will cause conflict with people trying to travel. This will also cut off part of America like New England because you have to pass through New York and New Jersey to get there.
This plan will only cause greater conflict and just lead to anther Civil war and cost the country more money to fix it. This doesn't solve anything, it only causes more problems.

Would you feel that way if Romney would have won?


How 'bout they leave and we keep the state.

It's kind of funny that people in Puerto Rico wants to join as soon as people in these states
want to leave.

Even though I wanted nothing to do with Romney's plans for America, I would still not leave America if he won.
I see no reason to just give up because I lost.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

Oh noez, a president that doesn't run this country based on what's said in a magical book handed down from some immortal bearded guy in the sky! Better leave now!

 

[Sterling]

lol at the idea of any state surviving as a sovereign entity...

what could half of these places even offer for trade?

Texas did it before (albeit with more debt). There's a reason that Texas' flag is the only one in the Union that can fly at the same height.

Texas has huge reserves of natural gas and oil. Texas also has huge tourism benefits with several ports and a very large access to the Mexican border.

 

[KingVamp]

A Civil war with a war still going on outside the USA? No, just no.

Although, I wish we could all just get along altogether.

 

[Foxi4]

I'm not saying "let them go", I'm saying that the states should vote. This is just some petition signed by (so-far) less than 30,000 people - it's a fraction of the population. Unless "retard" is strong in those knights of valour and freedom, I'd sleep safetly and soundly.