Almost All Flash Kits Blocked Permanently

[VMM]

I bought a DSTwo about two months and it didn't arrive yet
The way it's going, I just hope it arrive until the end of the year

 

[ShadowSoldier]

I still do not see how you are mad at Nintendo for blocking third party, unlicensed add-ons. They blocked illegal flashcarts, and ONE actual peripheral (that refuses to pay Nintendo a licensing fee) that is sold in stores. All Datel has to do is license their product with Nintendo. They probably refuse to pay the licensing fee, so you no longer get to use it. Nintendo waited years before implementing this method. Most likely on purpose. A bit funny how it gets updated close to the release of Pokemon Black/White 2.

This is one of the many reasons I kept my DSLite (that and for GBA). This is just like how Playstation keeps on changing their passphrases for PSN so that the hackers do not get on with modded consoles. If you want to use Nintendo's services (which include firmware and OS updates) then you have to follow Nintendo's rules. It could not be any simpler. Next time, don't blindly update.

you know what mate, please don't reply to my posts any more, I will ignore you, I don't have time for bigots replying to me about mindless rubbish, replying to your posts will get nowhere, if you are so against piracy and lick Nintendo ass why are you at gbatemp? go back to gamefaqs or something, I have better things to do than waste my time with idiots like you.

this is my last post to you, please don't quote me or reply you will be ignored.

You got some mr. krabs in your bikini bottom?

if you are so against piracy and lick Nintendo ass why are you at gbatemp?

Really dude? You're a bigger "idiot" than he is. You do realize that there are crap tons of different sections on this site other than the hacking stuff right? I'm against piracy and flashcards, I enjoy the community and discussions that happen here. Don't be so stuck up.

 

[smf]

Either that or they might actually start buying games. The more of a hassle Nintendo makes it to be a pirate the less likely people are to actually bother with it.

No, this is the only thing you can guarantee won't happen. Pirates won't start buying DS games just so they can play them on a 3DS. They'll either stop buying 3DS games, they'll buy a second hand DS/DSlite/DSI/DSIXL or they'll buy a new flashcart.

There is no outcome where Nintendo will make more money.

 

[machmandp]

Either that or they might actually start buying games. The more of a hassle Nintendo makes it to be a pirate the less likely people are to actually bother with it.

No, this is the only thing you can guarantee won't happen. Pirates won't start buying DS games just so they can play them on a 3DS. They'll either stop buying 3DS games, they'll buy a second hand DS/DSlite/DSI/DSIXL or they'll buy a new flashcart.

There is no outcome where Nintendo will make more money.

I have posted about this before but i totally agree with the above and here's why

Think about why we have the Flashcards for the 3DS , 2 reasons
1. Emulators and Homebrew
2. DS games we still want to play
If nintendo block the carts then the only options really is to get a DS or DSI and use the card on that but that means money on 2nd hand stuff that Nintendo will not get or get a new card which again Nintendo will not get anything from.

As regards to DS games i do not want to carry around all my DS games or another System when i just about have the room to carry my 3DS XL around , so users will most likely buy another Flashcard thats not blocked, this again as people do not have unlimited funds will divert money away from nintendo as the choice may be a new 3DS game or a new FlashCard.

and finally there will be those who will not update so their existing flashcard will work so yet again no money for nintendo as they will not be able to buy from the E-Shop.

in all Nintendos persistence in constantly blocking the cards i believe is actually Harming them and giving more and more money to the companies that make and sell the cards
just think that if all of the companies now came out with new cards (or even just a few) thats loads of users worldwide that would have to buy new cards again and thats a hell of a lot of money that could have gone Nintendos way.

 

[exangel]

Although I disagree that Nintendo would make no money from blocking flashcarts, it's more because it can't be proven, rationale is not as good as numbers--
nevertheless, I think Nintendo is stupid for investing the effort into doing this and not doing anything about* providing DS titles in the eShop. If they want to block flashcarts and actually make a profit in doing so, they need to provide an alternative to people who WOULD pay for the ability to keep their games all-in-one. (However, I have DStwo and r4ids.cn carts, so I can still have pirated games, alongside games I still own physical copies of and dumped with my DS Lite for my own more-convenient use.)

*I realize there are a couple DSiWare titles that are duplicates of the DS games, but come on. A large number of those DS games are less than 128MBytes, they should at least start trickling AAA titles in. There are a few DS titles so good I'd buy them again just to load them from the Home screen instead of a flashcart.

 

[Foxi4]

So by blocking flashcarts, the pirates will stop using the eShop or buying new games. At least until they get hold of a new flashcart.

So by blocking flashcarts, they will have a practically useless 3DS - a 3DS that only plays DS games. They'll eventually crack.

 

[indask8]

I'm sure this new feature will soon come to the DSi, so don't update your DSi if you still want to use your flashcarts (outside the DSTWO/R4igold).

 

[ascension7]

Glad I got my DSTwo. Sad that the latch broke so now my SD will shoot out of it unless I tape it in. But it's not so bad.

 

[Pong20302000]

Glad I got my DSTwo. Sad that the latch broke so now my SD will shoot out of it unless I tape it in. But it's not so bad.

if you undo the screw you can take the spring out you know, then it will be just a push/pull slot

 

[ascension7]

Glad I got my DSTwo. Sad that the latch broke so now my SD will shoot out of it unless I tape it in. But it's not so bad.

if you undo the screw you can take the spring out you know, then it will be just a push/pull slot

Sweet mother of florida summer lemonade, that's awesome, thanks for letting me know! I've been hesitant to take the card out because it's such a hassle to put back in.

 

[VMM]

Although I disagree that Nintendo would make no money from blocking flashcarts, it's more because it can't be proven, rationale is not as good as numbers--
nevertheless, I think Nintendo is stupid for investing the effort into doing this and not doing anything about* providing DS titles in the eShop. If they want to block flashcarts and actually make a profit in doing so, they need to provide an alternative to people who WOULD pay for the ability to keep their games all-in-one. (However, I have DStwo and r4ids.cn carts, so I can still have pirated games, alongside games I still own physical copies of and dumped with my DS Lite for my own more-convenient use.)

*I realize there are a couple DSiWare titles that are duplicates of the DS games, but come on. A large number of those DS games are less than 128MBytes, they should at least start trickling AAA titles in. There are a few DS titles so good I'd buy them again just to load them from the Home screen instead of a flashcart.

I always tought the same.
If Nintendo released their games on DSi Ware and E-Shop,
and stimulated developers into putting their titles on e-shop,
with descent prices,
the blocking flashcards would have a real purpose.

I would buy a lot of DS games if they were avaiable at e-shop.

 

[smf]

So by blocking flashcarts, they will have a practically useless 3DS - a 3DS that only plays DS games. They'll eventually crack.

For a pirate who never buys any games then a 3DS only ever does play DS games. There are other reasons to buy a 3DS over a DSlite that aren't related to 3DS games at all. In the meantime anyone who does pirate DS games but buys 3DS games is either going to wait, buy a better flashcart or buy a second hand console. A very small percentage might give up on their current flashcart in the short term and update, but they can always buy one in the future again when they want to play an old DS game.

There really is no benefit to Nintendo. They'd be better off investing in in-game copy protection for any new DS games. Protecting old DS games has no real benefit to Nintendo, you could just buy them second hand anyway & they don't get anything from that.

 

[exangel]

There are other reasons to buy a 3DS over a DSlite that aren't related to 3DS games at all.

Can you explain such reasons? The only thing that comes to mind is Swapnote and the 3D Camera/Gallery. With Swapnote you'd still have to get from the eShop. 3DS games aside, otherwise DSi XL is superior.

I think investing in more copy protection for future physical DS cartridge releases would be pretty misguided when they can focus on the fact people really want full downloadable games and are willing to pay: as people do with PSN, and the reason XBL has expanded their download on demand library.

 

[Foxi4]

For a pirate who never buys any games then a 3DS only ever does play DS games. There are other reasons to buy a 3DS over a DSlite that aren't related to 3DS games at all.

Reasons like what?

You cannot access DSiMode, you cannot access the eShop if you don't update, you cannot play 3DS games if you don't update. Everything about the 3DS that's not available on the DS is by proxy blocked to you, because it requires the latest firmware revision. By not updating, you cripple the system, by updating you cripple the flashcart.

Nintendo doesn't care whether the "pirates" will buy more games or not - they already bought the system and Nintendo knows that they will cave in, eventually. It's really that simple, and expecting them to do anything else is pure fantasy.

Pirates gonna pirate, and Nintendo knows that. This is why it's making the life of a pirate quite unpleasant and limited. It's damage control.

 

[jimmyemunoz]

"you cannot play 3DS games if you don't update"

Please explain what you meant by this? I'm confused.

 

[Foxi4]

"you cannot play 3DS games if you don't update"

Please explain what you meant by this? I'm confused.

Certain 3DS games require you to update the system. By not updating, you restrict yourself to only those games that work on your firmware version. Newer games may (and likely will) fail to boot and request an update, much like in the case of the Wii.

 

[machmandp]

well to prove one point , have not updated as yet and not sure what to do
but i have been enjoying NSMB2 and i see that there are new coin rush levels just released and i was think of getting them
but as i cant access the eshop ive sat back and thought about it and realised that i cant be bothered as i have just ordered the dstwo
so at least i can say that's some cash that nintendo wont be getting

 

[rashmatt]

"you cannot play 3DS games if you don't update"

Please explain what you meant by this? I'm confused.

Certain 3DS games require you to update the system. By not updating, you restrict yourself to only those games that work on your firmware version. Newer games may (and likely will) fail to boot and request an update, much like in the case of the Wii.

I've just received my 3DS XL and it came with 4.1.0. Is there a way to update to 4.3.0 instead of 4.4.0? Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[Minox]

"you cannot play 3DS games if you don't update"

Please explain what you meant by this? I'm confused.

Certain 3DS games require you to update the system. By not updating, you restrict yourself to only those games that work on your firmware version. Newer games may (and likely will) fail to boot and request an update, much like in the case of the Wii.

I've just received my 3DS XL and it came with 4.1.0. Is there a way to update to 4.3.0 instead of 4.4.0? Thanks in advance for your help.

To my understanding you do not need to update to 4.3.0 since they haven't introduced any really important features during these smaller updates.

 

[VMM]

"you cannot play 3DS games if you don't update"

Please explain what you meant by this? I'm confused.

Certain 3DS games require you to update the system. By not updating, you restrict yourself to only those games that work on your firmware version. Newer games may (and likely will) fail to boot and request an update, much like in the case of the Wii.

I've just received my 3DS XL and it came with 4.1.0. Is there a way to update to 4.3.0 instead of 4.4.0? Thanks in advance for your help.

No it isn't. If you use a flashcard on 3DS, unless you want to buy something on e-shop
I do not recommend you into updating