Rape and pregnancy: the ignorance of the GOP

[yuyuyup]

(the word [censored] is censored)

copypasta from Huffpo:
"From what I understand from doctors, that's really rare," said Akin said of pregnancy caused by [censored]. "If it's a legitimate [censored], the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let's assume maybe that didn't work or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist."

I'm still trying to hunt down the root of this [censored] rejection theory due to google clouded with reports of Akin's recent comments. A blog "balloonjuice" found this earlier quote from another GOP leader, with analysis from doctors from 1988:

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HARRISBURG — The odds that a woman who is raped will get pregnant are “one in millions and millions and millions,” said state Rep. Stephen Freind, R-Delaware County, the Legislature’s leading abortion foe. The reason, Freind said, is that the traumatic experience of [censored] causes a woman to “secrete a certain secretion” that tends to kill sperm.
Two Philadelphia doctors specializing in human reproduction characterized Freind’s contention as scientifically baseless.
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My uneducated guess is that many more [censored] victims DO become pregnant, and privately seek abortions. This would certainly stunt the numbers. To what degree ? Who could possibly know ? The demonetization of abortions certainly creates a stigma which would perpetuate such hidden statistics.

http://www.huffingto..._n_1807381.html
http://www.balloon-j...kins-pregnancy-[censored]-theory/



thanks costello

 

[Costello]

lol, yeah at some point people were using the r-word for every situation. so we had to calm people down and banned the word.
i will see if i can fix your post...

 

[Black-Ice]

CENSORED LIKE TAEWONGS TOPIC
AHHHHHH YEAHHHHH


so you failed. Try again later
*ninja'd to the first post by costello o.o*
*feels special*

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

"One in millions and millions and millions" sounds like a bullshit statistic. And it probably is, coming from a politician.

 

[DSGamer64]

Typical of right wingers. I like how conservatives try to blame women for getting raped and use shit ass excuses like this for keeping abortion illegal. Someone should throw these pricks in a prison cell with someone serving a life sentence in solitary confinement and see what their opinions on [censored] are like after their experience.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

If you outlaw abortions, people will only go underground with it, possibly being victims of unsafe practices and face sterility, maybe even death.

Do I think abortion is wrong? Absolutely. Does it have a place in our society. Yes, and taking that away could do more harm than good. Regardless of the arguments against it.

 

[Yumi]

Wow, what an idiot.

Abortion should be legal (since the beginning of time). But many will think it's wrong. Why? Could be morals, religion views, etc.
But what gives them the right to subjugate my body by telling me not to abort?..especially if it was an involuntary pregnancy.

 

[Hells Malice]

Wow, what an idiot.

Abortion should be legal (since the beginning of time). But many will think it's wrong. Why? Could be morals, religion views, etc.
But what gives them the right to subjugate my body by telling me not to abort?..especially if it was an involuntary pregnancy.

This.

Some girls (sluts) are going to (or do, location pending) abuse the abortion system, yeah. Fact.
But many, many girls are going to use it for valid reasons as well.
This oppressive bullshit has never made sense. It's another thing that hinders way more than it helps. There are pretty strict rules in place to ensure a cognitive lifeform is not aborted.
It should be a personal choice, not a political choice.

 

[Zerosuit connor]

Having plenty of friends at my age (15) who have gone through that ordeal and even one who has fallen pregnant I know how the brain kinda works, Many of them were depressed, and the one who fell pregnant was seriously traumatised by the abortion. But I understand why she did it, she wasn't ready for the burden or responsiblity and even though the child reflected the ra*e it wasn't the reason she had it done. Many women who fall pregnant after ra*e often neglect the children, I know of a few cases where this is a fact. The abuse of abortion is another matter completely. It's traumatising to have it done but when slu*s take advantage of it and don't understand that they've indirectly taken life. In the end
*Ra*e is wrong
*Abuse of abortion is wrong
*Pregnancy after ra*e is traumatising and abortions as an action towards this are understood.

 

[DiscostewSM]

I am against government-aided abortion for those that are stupid and don't take the necessary precautions when engaging in unsafe sex. They chose to do that by their own free will, and should therefore live with their decision. If they want an abortion, they pay out of their own pocket.

[censored] victims, imo, should have the option to abort with government-aid because they didn't have the option to engage in unsafe sex to begin with.

 

[the_randomizer]

All rapists should be emasculated while being forced to watch Justin Bieber music videos; that'll deter them for the rest of their miserable existences.

 

[chavosaur]

that doesnt solve the even bigger problem of just Ra*e.
child molestation.which is just one reason i can condone abortion. I can understand when a women of the age of 20 or 30 couldnt handle having the child of her attacker. Beleive me I know, my sister was the byproduct of such a situation.
but to be a 13 or 14 year old child. To have your entire innocence stolen from you. And then in all that horror you find out your also pregnant with his child?
There should be no question that that is somthing you just couldnt hold on to.

 

[Depravo]

They chose to do that by their own free will, and should therefore live with their decision.

And the unwanted child? Was it their free will to be foisted upon unwilling parents? It must be brilliant to know that the entire reason for your existence is to teach some slapper a lesson. When you see the lamentable state of some parents it's clear an abortion would have been a more responsible thing to do than having a child.

 

[the_randomizer]

Abortion is a very sensitive topic with many, if for some reason that is not an option, go with adoption. Either option is emotionally painful.

 

[DiscostewSM]

They chose to do that by their own free will, and should therefore live with their decision.

And the unwanted child? Was it their free will to be foisted upon unwilling parents? It must be brilliant to know that the entire reason for your existence is to teach some slapper a lesson. When you see the lamentable state of some parents it's clear an abortion would have been a more responsible thing to do than having a child.

If the child is unwanted, then why bring it into the world in the first place? Also, I didn't say I was completely against abortion altogether. I said government-aided abortion was ok for just those that never had a choice due to [censored]. And for those who got pregnant out of stupidity? Take out your own wallet for an abortion that shouldn't have been needed had one been smart about what they were doing beforehand.

 

[emigre]

They chose to do that by their own free will, and should therefore live with their decision.

And the unwanted child? Was it their free will to be foisted upon unwilling parents? It must be brilliant to know that the entire reason for your existence is to teach some slapper a lesson. When you see the lamentable state of some parents it's clear an abortion would have been a more responsible thing to do than having a child.

If the child is unwanted, then why bring it into the world in the first place? Also, I didn't say I was completely against abortion altogether. I said government-aided abortion was ok for just those that never had a choice due to [censored]. And for those who got pregnant out of stupidity? Take out your own wallet for an abortion that shouldn't have been needed had one been smart about what they were doing beforehand.

No contraception is 100% reliable.

 

[Gahars]

That's not how biology works... at all... ever.

I mean, if you're trying to legislate on women's issues in the place of women, you should at least know something about the subject matter at hand (especially if you are an elected official in the nation's highest, most powerful legislature). There is no excuse for this kind of ignorance.

 

[nando]

so basically if i woman gets pregnant during [censored] is because she most likely enjoyed it. makes perfect sense.

 

[BlueStar]

Excellent response from Obama

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/20/obama-todd-akin-rape_n_1812140.html

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

They chose to do that by their own free will, and should therefore live with their decision.

And the unwanted child? Was it their free will to be foisted upon unwilling parents? It must be brilliant to know that the entire reason for your existence is to teach some slapper a lesson. When you see the lamentable state of some parents it's clear an abortion would have been a more responsible thing to do than having a child.

If the child is unwanted, then why bring it into the world in the first place? Also, I didn't say I was completely against abortion altogether. I said government-aided abortion was ok for just those that never had a choice due to [censored]. And for those who got pregnant out of stupidity? Take out your own wallet for an abortion that shouldn't have been needed had one been smart about what they were doing beforehand.

You already have to pay for abortions.

I think you should be able to get an abortion if you want an abortion.
Simple as that.

The only people who are opposed to it are opposed to it because of religion but not everyone practices the same religion and as a result people should be able to get abortions when they want.