[SPOILERS] The Dark Knight Rises Discussion

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It was indeed Mind Blowing. One small thing i didn't like was Talia's death. It was so sudden. Bane too. Overall, it was better than dark knight. But the joker has a special place in my heart. I wanna see it again LOL. It's soo damn awesome.. And yeh, the emotional scenes were authentic.
 
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It was indeed Mind Blowing. One small thing i didn't like was Talia's death. It was so sudden. Bane too. Overall, it was better than dark knight. But the joker has a special place in my heart. I wanna see it again LOL. It's soo damn awesome.. And yeh, the emotional scenes were authentic.

"Finally, my father's work will be finished. And now I am dead."


Anyone see it in IMAX? Me and my girlfriend went to see the whole Dark Knight Trilogy in IMAX, something the AMC Theater chain was doing. The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises kept changing between full- and wide-screen throughout the entire movie. I'm assuming it was filmed that way to place more emphasis on some scenes, because it always seemed like the important closeup or action scenes were the wide ones. It bugged the heck outta me -_- my girlfriend didn't even notice, though, and I am assuming most didn't.
 

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The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises kept changing between full- and wide-screen throughout the entire movie. I'm assuming it was filmed that way to place more emphasis on some scenes, because it always seemed like the important closeup or action scenes were the wide ones. It bugged the heck outta me -_- my girlfriend didn't even notice, though, and I am assuming most didn't.


Holy shit. I thought I was only one.
 
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The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises kept changing between full- and wide-screen throughout the entire movie. I'm assuming it was filmed that way to place more emphasis on some scenes, because it always seemed like the important closeup or action scenes were the wide ones. It bugged the heck outta me -_- my girlfriend didn't even notice, though, and I am assuming most didn't.


Holy shit. I thought I was only one.

I've never once seen a movie like that. And, I can't be arsed to pull up XBMC and start watching The Dark Knight right now, but I am pretty certain that even the 720p Bluray rip I have doesn't do that. I know that's not equivalent to IMAX, but... man, if it stayed full screen, it woulda been great. The scenes that did show in full screen were absolutely beautiful.

Regardless, as I said to my girlfriend in the car ride home, it's not how the movie is displayed, but how the movie is done that matters most. So in the end, we still got to see a bad ass movie. :)
 

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I'm glad that they found a way to tie up all the loose ends and complete a full circle, apart from Joker related issues. I know Nolan and Heath had a closer actor/director relationship but it could have been awesome to see Bruce Wayne having a Joker Card on display next to the portrait of Racheal.

Also I'm quite glad that Nolan was able to implement a Robin character into his universe and even set him up as Bruce Waynes successor that was just great. Honestly this Batman trilogy is definitely the perfect Batman Story. DC is forced to release constant stories and tales about Batman and the world of Gotham but the great thing about Film is that it can tell and complete a story and Nolan completely nailed it with Batman.
 

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I saw it on Saturday. I thought the beginning was dragged out a bit too long and thus became boring. Maybe im the only who thinks this, but I didn't like the fact that Bane was the villain. I mean, anybody who's read the comics, played the games, or watched the tv shows knows that Bane is kind of hard to make as a villain because of his look. They did find a good actor for him though, the guy is big. Another gripe I had was that it was hard to understand what he was saying a lot of the time.

Anne Hathaway played a brilliant catwoman. She played the cold part so well. And this is just me saying, but I seriously hope her costume becomes popular this Halloween. Overall, good movie and definitely worth the money, but I think the dark knight was better mainly for the pacing, and action sequences, and the villain. And not just because it was ledger either. I did like the fact they showed bane breaking batmans back, but they could have shot it better.

But the ending was great, I kept myself from looking up anything about this movie, so as I was watching it, I kept thinking Joseph Gordon levitts character was acting so much like Robin, then at the end, I literally screamed in the theater, FUCK YEAH!!!!

Also, at our theater, after the movie, the people were clapping. Never seen that done before at a movie.
 
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Also, at our theater, after the movie, the people were clapping. Never seen that done before at a movie.

I never clap at the end of movies. Nobody is there that would feel any gratification from hearing the applause - the reel man just hits play on the movie for the most part; the producers aren't there; theater staff is just doing their job.

I clapped at the end of this movie.
 

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Who saw it? What did you guys think?

Spoiling stuff down in hurr.
I'll be honest - got a bit teary eyed at some points. The end especially, when Alfred looked across the tables and saw exactly what he always dreamed of.

So many feels.
I definitely liked it. I had to tell myself to not compare it to The Dark Knight, because I knew I would be disappointed.
I would advise anyone that is going to see it to remember that these two films have different approaches, especially in villains.

I was a bit teary when he was talking to Bruce's parents. When he was telling them he failed them.
I was also a little irked by John blake being revealed as Robin, but I understand why he wouldn't give him a known name like Dick Grayson. That would have given the surprise away.
 

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YAY I CAN ENTER THIS THREAD.

Really enjoyed the movie, I'd definitely say it was better than The Dark Knight. Admittedly it was a bit long winded and drawn out at parts but it kept me engaged.

I loved Bane as a villain, I definitely think he did a better job than The Joker. Just his whole plot and the way he presented himself, it was very well done.

Anne Hathaway (to steal a line from @[member='Gahars'], who stole this line from Wayne of Wayne's World, she "Hathaway of giving me a bone") did a wonderful job.

Now spoiler territory:

I did get a bit of a jaw drop at the twist that, um, Mal from Inception was Thalia. It was well done.

I think the way they took Bane off screen was a bit silly though. He's this big villain and his ending isn't like a big one-on-one like The Joker. He just gets shot like some typical henchmen and never heard from again. I felt they took quickly shifted the focus from Bane to Thalia.

The plot twists were a bit excessive near the end. Like there is no bomb in the truck... but then they get the other truck. And then they stop the signal from blowing the bomb! ...but it's going to blow anyway. But they can get it to the reactor! ...but the reactor got flooded. Then Batman can tow it out and he dies! ...But it was actually on autopilot. That doesn't count the whole Thalia twist and stuff like that.

Some manly tears at the end. Had to keep it together when Alfred was crying. I also thought they almost killed Morgan Freeman, which, as science has proven, is impossible.

I felt the romance between Bruce and Thalia was a little forced. I mean she was selling her plan fine, why did she need to sleep with him? I mean he only (in her eyes) killed her father. I guess she just wanted to solidify his trust or make her betrayal hurt him more but they were building this whole sexual tension between him and Selina and it only really pays off in the end.

Also how the Blake character is probably gonna be Robin was alright I guess. I guess it was in case they wanted room for a sequel or a possible Robin/Nightwing movie.

Despite my criticisms, I enjoyed the movie thoroughly and liked it the most out of the trilogy. How everything connected was very well done.
 

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i didnt like this movie much as TDK, still a good movie tho. i feel some things were forced to get the ending to end the way it did.

the end where Alfred sees bruce in the cafe, is he alive or was that what he would have liked to see. that bit confused me.
 

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Saw it yesterday with the wife and I have to say, enjoyed every damn minute of it. Had a few things spoiled for me ahead of time but it was still intense seeing them play out.

I can't see them doing a Robin movie being that Blake's name is Robin and that would kind of be a give-away as to who "Robin" is...but I can definitely see a Nightwing spin-off or even a Batman Beyond type deal where Bruce helps Blake along. I mean, Bruce Wayne was a goddamned ninja, literally, before he became Batman. Blake needs some kind of training and Riddler and Penguin are still prime villains.

I also enjoyed Anne Hathaway quite a bit more than I expected to. Wouldn't mind her getting a spin-off of her own, maybe to delve a little bit deeper into the Long Halloween storyline with the Falcone family...
 

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I can't see them doing a Robin movie being that Blake's name is Robin and that would kind of be a give-away as to who "Robin" is...but I can definitely see a Nightwing spin-off or even a Batman Beyond type deal where Bruce helps Blake along. I mean, Bruce Wayne was a goddamned ninja, literally, before he became Batman. Blake needs some kind of training and Riddler and Penguin are still prime villains.

I also enjoyed Anne Hathaway quite a bit more than I expected to. Wouldn't mind her getting a spin-off of her own, maybe to delve a little bit deeper into the Long Halloween storyline with the Falcone family...

I don't know why people are using spoiler tags, you shouldn't be reading this thread if you plan on seeing the movie. Anyway I feel like the Riddler could or would possibly turn out to be just another Joker if they were to utilise him in a Nightwing movie.
 

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i didnt like this movie much as TDK, still a good movie tho. i feel some things were forced to get the ending to end the way it did.

the end where Alfred sees bruce in the cafe, is he alive or was that what he would have liked to see. that bit confused me.
No, that was real. Bruce Wayne lives. In one of the previous scenes, Fox learns that Bruce fixed the autopilot on the Bat, i.e. He wasn't in it when it flew the bomb away, it was being autopiloted. Bruce chose to let Batman "die", and the only two who know the truth are Fox and Alfred.

My flaw with that part of the movie is this: in the scene where the engineers or whatever they were tell Fox the autopilot was fixed, how did they retrieve the Bat? It was attached to the nuclear bomb when it went off, there's no way it could have survived. Possibly there was more than one of the vehicle (there were more tumblers in Fox's private place), and bruce applied the patch to them all, but if so, why would Bane's men not take the extra Bats as well as the extra tumblers?
 

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i didnt like this movie much as TDK, still a good movie tho. i feel some things were forced to get the ending to end the way it did.

the end where Alfred sees bruce in the cafe, is he alive or was that what he would have liked to see. that bit confused me.
No, that was real. Bruce Wayne lives. In one of the previous scenes, Fox learns that Bruce fixed the autopilot on the Bat, i.e. He wasn't in it when it flew the bomb away, it was being autopiloted. Bruce chose to let Batman "die", and the only two who know the truth are Fox and Alfred.

My flaw with that part of the movie is this: in the scene where the engineers or whatever they were tell Fox the autopilot was fixed, how did they retrieve the Bat? It was attached to the nuclear bomb when it went off, there's no way it could have survived. Possibly there was more than one of the vehicle (there were more tumblers in Fox's private place), and bruce applied the patch to them all, but if so, why would Bane's men not take the extra Bats as well as the extra tumblers?

It's ambiguous for sure, but being that the bat was in the air and the bomb was carried underneath it's possible the concussion from the blast could have thrown the vehicle before the blast itself could envelope it. Who knows... I won't let that take away from my enjoyment of the movie though, especially considering the crazy plotholes comics tend to get away with.
 

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The way the story tied the loose end on the black knight saga was great. Bane was ok-ish although i feel they gave too much importance to this character when as far as i remember from Batman, the animated series, he was more of steroid pumped bodyguard.
 

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The way the story tied the loose end on the black knight saga was great. Bane was ok-ish although i feel they gave too much importance to this character when as far as i remember from Batman, the animated series, he was more of steroid pumped bodyguard.

He's quite important in the comics (well, at least in the '90s) as he frees everybody from arkham asylum then breaks batmans back and puts him out of commission for a year. It's in the Knightfall books, its a great read if you see the graphic novels anywhere. Besides there not being any venom, its probably the best rendition of the character outside of the comics so far.

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Overall I think I liked TDK better but it was still a really good movie, with a great ending - its nice to see Bruce finally get some peace in his life. Anne Hathway did a good job with her part, but I won't consider her catwoman - that still goes to Batman Returns for me as doing a better job with the character. I know they were trying to go with the more modern good at heart catwoman, but it just didn't mesh with me.
 

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